CI-2009 IDc1: Innovation in Design

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  • Time to get creative

    This credit is your project’s opportunity to demonstrate leadership in the green building industry and to let your team contribute creative approaches to the field of sustainable design. It’s also a great way for your project to achieve up to five additional points. 

  • Three paths to points

    There are three different ways to achieve points under this credit:

    • Path 1 – Innovation in Design: Use an innovative approach to something not already covered in the LEED rating system. This approach must represent an innovative design approach to a problem, must be comprehensive in scope, and must have a quantifiable environmental benefit. Approach this path as if you were creating a new LEED “ID credit” from scratch.
    • Path 2 – Exemplary PerformanceIn LEED, certain credits have established thresholds beyond basic credit achievement. Meeting these thresholds can earn additional points through Innovation in Design (ID) or Innovation in Operations (IO) points. As a general rule of thumb, ID credits for exemplary performance are awarded for doubling the credit requirements and/or achieving the next incremental percentage threshold. However, this rule varies on a case by case basis, so check the credit requirements.: Go well beyond the performance thresholds of existing LEED credits. As a general rule, you go to the next threshold level over the credit requirement. For example, in WEc3: Water Use Reduction, you receive points for 30%, 35%, and 40% reductions in water use, while the ID point is for a 45% reduction; and for MRc5: Regional Materials, you receive points for sourcing 10% and 20% of materials (by cost) locally, while the ID point is for 30% locally sourced materials. Projects can only earn up to three points through this path.
    • Path 3 – Pilot Credit: Choose a pilot credit from USGBC's LEED pilot credit library, and try to achieve it while also documenting your work. This path was added to IDc1 in the July 2010 LEED addenda, and gives project teams a chance to help LEED evolve by testing credits that are still works-in-progress. LEEDuser offers guidance on all the pilot credits, and participation in LEEDuser's forum is a requirement.

    “Creative” doesn’t have to mean “costly”

    There are plenty of opportunities to earn Path 1 ID credits through no- and low-cost strategies. A great example is green cleaningGreen cleaning is the use of cleaning products and practices that have lower environmental impacts and more positive indoor air quality impacts than conventional products and practices., which requires the use of low-toxicity cleaning agents, cleaning machines that reduce impact on indoor air quality, and training maintenance staff in hazard reduction. 

    Take a close look at all the sustainability practices that your project is already planning or participating in and examine the possibilities of applying them to an ID credit. Some opportunities include recycling, composting, procurement and cleaning policies, landscape management, education initiatives, and many more.

    Use LEED-EBOM as a resource

    There is a consistent source of ID credit opportunities for all rating systems to be found in the LEED for Existing Buildings: Operations and Maintenance (EBOM) rating system (see LEEDuser's guide to EBOM for more information). Implementing operational practices and policies—for example, site management plans, purchasing programs, and green cleaning—can help you achieve ID credits and set the stage for successful, sustainable operation of your project building. 

    Operational credits fall outside the realm of design and construction, and the creation of a plan is easy with the available templates, but the commitment to implement the plan is just as important, if not more so.

    Educational programs

    It is common to use an educational program about the sustainability of the LEED project to earn a point under IDc1. Educational programs must consist of at least two separate components, including a kiosk, a website, a case study, a lecture series, signage, etc.

    To meet the requirement of having two components, you should understand some key distinctions. For example, a kiosk in a building lobby is typically viewed as signage and would be part of an overall signage program, not a second component. The information presented on the kiosk may also impact how it is categorized—it should be unique from that which is presented elsewhere. For example, if a project team creates a website (educational outreach) and places a kiosk (signage) in the lobby, but the kiosk only includes a link to the website, both of these items would only count as one component of the educational program. In contrast, if a project team implements a signage program (signage) and a kiosk, but the kiosk includes an in‐depth case study (case study), this could be viewed as two individual components. The educational program must also be about building-specific strategies employed on the LEED project as opposed to a marketing or user education tool.

    A staff sustainability team could be part of an educational strategy, but simply saying that one has been created in a narrative does not provide enough information. You should also provide specific information regarding the goals and methods of delivering the sustainable education component to the public or staff, such as work on signage, lectures, or outreach for home improvement, etc. Also, keep in mind that the group should distinguish itself from other strategies.

  • Consider these questions when approaching this credit

    • Can your project achieve double the credit requirements, or the next incremental percentage threshold, for any existing LEED credits?
    • Is your project undertaking sustainable design strategies that are above or beyond the intent of existing LEED credits? 
    • What makes your project special? Are there opportunities for innovation uniquely suited to your climate, region, building or use type, or project team? 
    • Is your building owner interested in pursuing sustainability goals through building operations and maintenance? If so, can your project adopt credits from the LEED-EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. rating system?

    Innovation credit submittal process

    Innovation credits are often denied, but GBCI typically encourages project teams to try another strategy if one they have proposed is not feasible to meet the credit requirements. The credit may  be denied outright with instruction to submit an alternative strategy, or denied pending clarification with technical advice asking for more explanation of how the submitted strategy is viable or the option to submit an alternative. Project teams may attempt new strategies in the construction phase if a particular innovation credit was denied in the design phase.

    FAQs for IDc1

    Our project wants to (fill in the blank) as an innovative strategy. Is this eligible for IDc1?

    Usually the answer to this question is "maybe." There are very few preapproved innovation strategies (education is one of them—see above), so with all but a few it is hard to say definitively whether or not it will be approved on a LEED project. However, there are some reliable guidelines that any project should consider:

    • The approach must be "innovative," i.e., not standard practice.
    • The approach must be comprehensive in scope. For example, many projects ask whether they can earn an innovation point for using a specific technology that is considered new or different, for example, an elevator that uses novel technology to offer energy efficiency. Use of a specific technology would not be considered comprehensive. (Doubly so in this case because energy efficiency is already covered under a LEED credit.) If you are starting out by considering a single technology, consider how you can expand that into a project-wide theme.
    • The approach must have a quantifiable environmental benefit.

    You should also consider that earning an ID credit basically requires you to write a LEED credit, set certain quantifiable measures, and meet them. So a good test is to put your idea in terms of a LEED credit. What is the credit name, intent, and requirements? Could this same credit be used on another project (is it repeatable?), or is it extremely unique?

    Many ideas will not hold up after applying these tests. Remember that a strategy might be a good idea even if it is not recognized for an ID credit, and that not every good idea meets the standards demanded by LEED.

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  • Action Steps
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Pre-Design

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  • Consider whether one or both paths to earning points under this  credit are suitable for your project:

    • Path 1 – Innovation in Design: Use an innovative approach to something not already covered in the LEED rating system. This approach must represent and innovative design approach to a problem, must be comprehensive in scope, and must have a quantifiable environmental benefit. Approach this path as if you were creating a new LEED “ID credit” from scratch.
    • Path 2 – Exemplary Performance: Go well beyond the performance thresholds of existing LEED credits.

  • No more than three of the points can be awarded for Exemplary Performance through Path 2, so to max out your points here you’ll need to also pursue Path 1 – Innovative Strategies. 


  • Brainstorm strategies for ID credits (Path 1) early, and involve your entire team, including designers, builders, owners, facilities managers, and occupants. Consider sustainability strategies that may fall outside the LEED rating system. Find out if the team has worked on any past LEED projects that pursued interesting ID credits. 


  • Using your preliminary LEED scorecard, note which Exemplary Performance thresholds might be attainable. Credits that are eligible for Exemplary Performance are noted throughout the LEED Reference Guide.

Schematic Design

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  • If considering Path 1, develop a list of 6–8 ID credits that may be appropriate for your project and discuss the opportunities, costs, and barriers to implementation of each with your project team.


  • When pursuing ID credits under Path 1 – Innovation in Design, use the published catalog of ID credits from pre-LEED 2009 rating systems  as a reference for possible approaches. However, note that simply because a strategy has been approved for a project in the past does not necessarily guarantee that it will be approved on a different project. In other words, the approach must be specific to the project in order to be considered for this credit. 


  • Attempt as many Path 2 – Exemplary Performance credits as possible. You can only earn points for three credits, but try for more than that, to maximize environmental benefit, and your chances of earning all three points—in case one falls through. 


  • Setting these increased thresholds as a goal early in the process can be cost-effective and make the ID credit for Exemplary Performance fairly easy to achieve.


  • Innovation in Design credits developed for Path 1 must be comprehensive and provide a quantifiable environmental benefit. ID credits are not awarded solely for using specific products or technologies, especially when the product aids in the achievement of another LEED credit. For example, if you purchase highly efficient windows, you cannot gain an ID credit for this because it will contribute to the overall energy efficiency of your building, which is included in EAp2 and EAc1.


  • The intent of a proposed innovation credit cannot be identical to or repetitive of the intent of LEED credits within the rating system in which your project is currently pursuing credit points. (Looking to other rating systems for ideas, however, is recommended.)


  • Other rating sytems such as LEED-EBOM can be a great resource for ideas for innovation credits. (See LEEDuser's list of LEED-EBOM credits and associated guidance.) When adapting these credits, it may be appropriate to meld the requirements to fit your rating system. For example, if pursuing LEED-EBOM MRc4: Reduced Mercury in Lamps, you would not in a design and construction rating system be required to document the solid waste management strategy which is a part of that credit, which is operations-focused.

Design Development

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  • Create a detailed narrative or plan for the ID credits that you have chosen and coordinate input from various interested parties. For example, if you are developing a Comprehensive Recycling Plan, you would need input from the staff responsible for coordinating the collection efforts, the recycling company to confirm that they can expand the scope of recycling beyond what is required in the LEED prerequisite, and the occupants to confirm that receptacles for recyclables are accessible and convenient and that the expectations of what should be recycled are understood.


  • Target more approaches than needed, with the expectation that some may be eliminated during design and construction. Submit your five best approaches, but have at least one or two backup strategies in case any are denied during the design submittal review. 

Construction Documents

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  • Verify that design-related ID credits have been included in the plans and specifications.


  • Complete documentation in LEED Online.


  • For Path 1 – Innovation in Design credits, documentation includes:

    • Title and a statement of intent for the proposed credit.
    • Environmental benefits associated with your approach.
    • Requirements proposed for your project to comply.
    • A narrative of the strategies employed by the project to meet the above intent and requirements.
    • Upload any related documents, plans, or product cut sheets associated with the strategy 

  • For Path 2 – Exemplary Performance, the ID credits are tied to those you have already documented for the standard credit page. This is an easy selection on the credit page.


  • Document as many ID credits in LEED Online as you can for the design submittal. This way you can have confirmation that you have achieved the credit. If your anticipated credits are rejected, then you can submit others for the construction submittal. 


  • For post-construction or operations-related credits, circulate draft plans among the owner, maintenance staff, and occupants if necessary to coordinate important components of the credit strategy and confirm your approach.

Construction

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  • Track your design-submittal ID credits so that you know whether they have been accepted. If they have not, read the comments from the reviewer and consider what it might take to achieve them or whether you might be better off pursuing a different ID credit. 


  • If you choose to pursue a different credit, prepare the documentation for the submittal promptly.  

Operations & Maintenance

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  • Commit to implementing the submitted ID credits in the way that they were proposed. Ensure that policies and plans are followed through and that there are enough human and financial resources to achieve the goals of the credits. In some cases, the successful implementation of these credits will help to demonstrate the success of the project as a whole into the future.   


  • Implement the operational ID credits that you submitted, even if they weren’t approved. Often these credits can have considerable cultural impact on the occupants by making sustainability strategies tangible. 


  • Operational strategies are intended to provide a platform for continuous improvement, which often leads to both material and financial savings. Be ambitious in the implementation of these strategies, and continue to set high goals for your project, year after year.  

  • USGBC

    Excerpted from LEED 2009 for Commercial Interiors

    ID Credit 1: Innovation in design

    1-5 Points

    Intent

    To provide design teams and projects the opportunity to achieve exceptional performance above the requirements set by the LEED Green Building Rating System and/or innovative performance in green building categories not specifically addressed by the LEED Green Building Rating System.

    Requirements

    Credit can be achieved through any combination of the Innovation in design and Exemplary performanceIn LEED, certain credits have established thresholds beyond basic credit achievement. Meeting these thresholds can earn additional points through Innovation in Design (ID) or Innovation in Operations (IO) points. As a general rule of thumb, ID credits for exemplary performance are awarded for doubling the credit requirements and/or achieving the next incremental percentage threshold. However, this rule varies on a case by case basis, so check the credit requirements. paths as described below:

    Path 1. Innovation in design (1-5 points)

    Achieve significant, measurable environmental performance using a strategy not addressed in the LEED 2009 for Commercial Interiors Rating System.

    One point is awarded for each innovation achieved. No more than 5 points under IDc1 may be earned through Path 1—Innovation in design.

    Identify the following in writing:

    • The intent of the proposed innovation credit.
    • The proposed requirement for compliance.
    • The proposed submittals to demonstrate compliance.
    • The design approach (strategies) used to meet the requirements.
    Path 2. Exemplary performance (1-3 points)

    Achieve exemplary performance in an existing LEED 2009 for Commercial Interiors prerequisite or credit that allows exemplary performance as specified in the LEED Reference Guide for Green Building Interior Design, 2009 Edition. An exemplary performance point may be earned for achieving double the credit requirements and/or achieving the next incremental percentage threshold of an existing credit in LEED.

    One point is awarded for each exemplary performance achieved. No more than 3 points under IDc1 may be earned through Path 2—Exemplary performance.

    Path 3. Pilot credit (1-5 points)

    Attempt a pilot credit available in the Pilot Credit Library at www.usgbc.org/pilotcreditlibrary. Register as a pilot credit participant and complete the required documentation. Projects may pursue up to 5 pilot credits total.

    Credit substitution available

    You may use the LEED v4 version of this credit on v2009 projects. For more information check out this article.

    Potential Technologies & Strategies

    Substantially exceed a LEED 2009 for Commercial Interiors performance credit such as energy performance or water efficiency. Apply strategies or measures that demonstrate a comprehensive approach and quantifiable environment and/or health benefits.

Technical Guides

Guidance on Innovation in Design (ID) Credits

Supplementary description of ID credit compliance from USGBC.

Publications

Innovation in Design Credit Catalog

Listing of hundreds of ID credit approaches.

Acoustical Design Credit

Innovation in Design

Enhanced acoustical design is only a prerequisite and credit in the LEED for Schools rating system only, but it is a good candidate for use as an innovation credit in other rating systems. Armstrong, a major manufacturer, pursued acoustics as an innovation path in its own LEED-EB certification in 2007. Shown here is a summary of how Armstrong earned the point.

Active Design Credit

Innovation in Design

An "active design" or "design for health" credit successfully earned an innovation point through IDc1 for a New York City project. The project wanted to comprehensively integrate into the design of the project features that would encourage regular physical activity in occupants, while also bringing environmental benefits. The project team hopes that other projects will use this thorough documentation as an example to pursue similar approaches.

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Susan Coy
Oct 20 2014
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Well Building Standard

Project Location: United States

I am working on a LEED-CI project and we are doing documenting the project to receive the Well Building Standard certification as well. Would getting the Well Building Standard Certification be enough for an Innovation in Design credit? If so, what documentation is needed?

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Amit Ahiel
Aug 26 2014
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LEED NC Credit EAc2 for LEED ID+C project as an ID credit

I have researched this and see that we can earn credit for a Thermo Solar Water system on a LEED ID+C project.
The question is, will we only earn 1 point or the full set of points per the NC system we are adopting for this credit?

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Brian Salazar President, LEED AP BD+C Entegra Development & Investment, LLC
Aug 18 2014
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ID Credit for SMaRT Level 3 Products?

Hello! I have used Cradle-2-Cradle Certification (C2CA protocol developed by McDonough Braungart Design Chemistry that establishes guidelines for the manufacture of products in ways that harmonize with natural systems. These guidelines require, for example, that products be recyclable indefinitely, contain no hazardous ingredients, and be manufactured using renewable energy.) in the past as a methodology for achieving an Innovation credit. In these cases, 2.5% of material costs fell under the C2C umbrella. Most notably, furniture contributes the majority of the cost related to this credit.

Has anyone used other 3rd party certifications to the same effect? Such as SMART Level 3?

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Cara Blumenthal
Jul 16 2014
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Recycling a Hard-to-Recycle Waste Stream

Would an innovation credit or a pilot credit similar to the following be considered legitimate? Or is the scope too narrow? Thank you for any insight!

Intent: To reduce waste-to-landfill rates of one or more non-recyclable on-going consumables waste streams that are not readily recyclable through municipal recycling or the contracted recycler and are not included in the MR prerequisite.

Requirements:

Conduct a waste audit and identify a waste stream in the building and/or workplace that is currently not being recycled and makes up at least _% of non-recycled waste stream in terms of volume or weight.

Solve for the ongoing waste stream through reusing, upcycling, and/or recycling the waste. Waste-to-energy solutions would not be applicable under this credit.

Implement an education program to educate and engage occupants around the building’s recycling efforts of the target waste stream.

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Emmanuel Gee Project Architect Buell Kratzer Powell
May 21 2014
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LEED CS & CI built at the same time.

Hello,

We have a project where the CS and one CI tenant is being built at the same time. Do any of the Exemplary PerformanceIn LEED, certain credits have established thresholds beyond basic credit achievement. Meeting these thresholds can earn additional points through Innovation in Design (ID) or Innovation in Operations (IO) points. As a general rule of thumb, ID credits for exemplary performance are awarded for doubling the credit requirements and/or achieving the next incremental percentage threshold. However, this rule varies on a case by case basis, so check the credit requirements. credits carry over such as Alt transportation, light pollution, open space or water use reduction if the bathrooms are dedicated to the tenant but built as part of the CS?

Thanks

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Michael Smithing Director - Green Building Advisory, Colliers International May 21 2014 LEEDuser Member 2264 Thumbs Up

Transportation and Water Use Reduction are individual CI credits so you should be able to achieve the EP points for them in both rating systems. To get the WEc1 points in CI you need to include the consumption in the base building fixtures the tenant is using, regardless of when they were constructed. Light Pollution is an SSc1 credit which is not eligible for the EP under path 12, so you won't be able to use that.

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Emmanuel Gee Project Architect, Buell Kratzer Powell May 21 2014 LEEDuser Member 22 Thumbs Up

Thank you, that makes sense. I will have my engineers look into it.

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Sheryl Swartzle LEED administration TLC Engineering for Architecture
Nov 19 2013
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ID credits earned in Base Bldg vs CI

Our CI's base bldg earned LEED Gold which included ID credits for green cleaningGreen cleaning is the use of cleaning products and practices that have lower environmental impacts and more positive indoor air quality impacts than conventional products and practices., education, and low mercury lamps. From previous posts it looks like we cannot pursue green cleaning, but how sustainable purchases of ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories.? I am presenting owner with possibilities such as Green Power (100%) and Custodial Effectiveness Assessment but we are looking for additional ID points. Thanks for any help you can provide.

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Michael Smithing Director - Green Building Advisory, Colliers International Nov 20 2013 LEEDuser Member 2264 Thumbs Up

I've used Green CleaningGreen cleaning is the use of cleaning products and practices that have lower environmental impacts and more positive indoor air quality impacts than conventional products and practices. consistently in CI projects. To use this successfully in a LEED building, you would need to show that you are doing something "extra." In a CS building, green cleaning might only apply to the common areas - adoption by the tenant would expand that. With an EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. building the task might be harder, but you could document the compliance credits rather than the plan.

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Sheryl Swartzle LEED administration, TLC Engineering for Architecture Dec 05 2013 LEEDuser Member 695 Thumbs Up

Thank you. I am concerned about pursuing ID credits for our CI that were achieved in the base building certification process. Base building achieved ID credits for Education, low mercury lamps and green cleaningGreen cleaning is the use of cleaning products and practices that have lower environmental impacts and more positive indoor air quality impacts than conventional products and practices..

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 05 2013 LEEDuser Moderator

Sheryl, my understanding is that with CI projects, if you are taking credit for something innovative that is more about the base building than about your project, you should so that through SSc1.

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Kristine Byers
Jul 30 2013
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NSF 140 Gold vs Platinum

We are considering an ID Credit for having all of the carpet on the project NSF 140 Certified. My questions:
1. Is this ID Credit still available for CI2009?
2. We have a combination of GOLD certified and PLATINUM certified carpet products. How does the 2.5% (for GOLD) and 1.25% (for PLATINUM) calculation work? Do you assume the lowest common denominator, treat them all as though they were GOLD while completing the calculation and demonstrate 2.5% of the total value of all building materials used on a project? OR Do you treat each separately? The GOLD Certified Carpet must make up 2.5% of the total value and the PLATINUM Certified Carpet must make up 1.25% of the total value?

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jul 30 2013 LEEDuser Moderator

Kristine, what ruling are you referencing for this ID credit? I'm not aware of this precedent, but I could be forgetting something. If you have a LEED InterpretationLEED Interpretations are official answers to technical inquiries about implementing LEED on a project. They help people understand how their projects can meet LEED requirements and provide clarity on existing options. LEED Interpretations are to be used by any project certifying under an applicable rating system. All project teams are required to adhere to all LEED Interpretations posted before their registration date. This also applies to other addenda. Adherence to rulings posted after a project registers is optional, but strongly encouraged. LEED Interpretations are published in a searchable database at usgbc.org. number I'll check that language and let you know my opinion.

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Kristine Byers Jul 30 2013 LEEDuser Member 18 Thumbs Up

ID#5063 Additionally, several carpet companies (Mohawk, Interface, Bentley Prince Street, etc.) currently reference this ID Credit on their websites and "LEED Calculators".

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Lara Schneider Sep 20 2013 Guest 96 Thumbs Up

I am also curious if this is still being used as an ID credit? As previous poster mentioned, it's listed on many carpet websites.

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Andrew Ellsworth Ellsworth Building Portfolio Services Dec 11 2013 LEEDuser Member 175 Thumbs Up

Is this thread still active? I have the same questions. My biggest issue is with the definition of "total value of the project". Is this total construction cost? Total material value per MRc4/5? Project cost with all soft costs included? 5% of the total construction cost for just the carpet seems extreme. I'm curious what they're going for here by requiring a high cost for finishes. Any insights?

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 23 2013 LEEDuser Moderator

As far as I can tell from a look at the LEED Interpretations database, this Interpretation, #5063, is still available for projects.

I agree that the wording of it is confusing, in that it states "project cost," while LEED MR credits typically are based on a percentage of the materials budget. That is clearly what it states, however.

However, NSF-140 Platinum carpeting is very common, and for that you only need 1.25%.

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Adam Knoff Sustainability Project Manager Unico Properties
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Zero-Waste Office as LEED CI ID Credit

I'm working on a CI project where the tenant is planning to run a zero-waste office space. A local recycle/compost/trash hauler (Eco-Cycle) offers this service. They even take hard to recycle items such as plastic bags, etc. Does this seem like something that could pass as an ID credit? I was thinking of modeling it off our existing solid waste management plan. Any tips, etc? Thanks!

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Jim Park Project Manager, EAN Technology May 22 2013 Guest 411 Thumbs Up

You might want to look at LEED EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. MRc7 Solid waste management - ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories., for its requirements. For more definite answer, you might want to submit LEED InterpretationLEED Interpretations are official answers to technical inquiries about implementing LEED on a project. They help people understand how their projects can meet LEED requirements and provide clarity on existing options. LEED Interpretations are to be used by any project certifying under an applicable rating system. All project teams are required to adhere to all LEED Interpretations posted before their registration date. This also applies to other addenda. Adherence to rulings posted after a project registers is optional, but strongly encouraged. LEED Interpretations are published in a searchable database at usgbc.org./

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Adam Knoff Sustainability Project Manager, Unico Properties May 23 2013 Guest 37 Thumbs Up

Thanks Jim. We do a lot of EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. projects, so I was planning on basing this zero-waste plan off our MRc7 waste management plan. The bigger question was if this stands a chance of achieving an ID credit and what tips, if any, folks had for increasing our chances. Thanks!

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Kathy Wislocky Project Manager Isgenuity LLC
Feb 28 2013
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DEHP/PVC elimination from newly purchased equipment

If our healthcare clinic will be purchasing new medical equipment associated with this gut interior renovation, might eliminating DEHP/PVC from one of the product lines achieve an ID credit? This is one of the Healtier Hospital Initiatives, so it's a valid environmental benefit but not sure if it's too unrelated to the building construction to be an acceptable ID credit.

Any second opinions would be much appreciated! Thanks

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Susan Walter Sr Project Architect, Wilmot/Sanz Mar 01 2013 LEEDuser Expert 14906 Thumbs Up

Kathy,

The DEHP/PVC removal from medical equipment alone likely will not get you an innovation credit. Typically you need to show a comprehensive approach on elimination of those products throughout the project. Did you also eliminate PVC from your resilient flooring? What other HHI initiatives is the facility implementing?

I've been reviewing HHI work for awhile and looking to align LEED and HHI. We're going to try for an innovation credit ourselves. We can compare notes if you are interested offline.

Susan

PS: That 80% construction waste elimination standard in HHI is incorrect. It should align with the 75% LEED standard for MRc2.

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Kasandra Martin Designer
Dec 26 2012
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Energy Star HVAC equipment

Is having energy star rated equipment enough for an ID credit? I wondered if it is in the LEED NC, my current project will be going for LEED CI.

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 26 2012 LEEDuser Moderator

Kasandra, if your project is LEED-CI, then Energy Star equipment is covered under EAc1. If your project is LEEED-NC, then this is a potential innovation credit, although there was some recent discussion on the NC IDc1 forum here that it was no longer considered innovative enough by GBCI.

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Kasandra Martin Designer Dec 27 2012 Guest 361 Thumbs Up

EAc1.? Which part of EAc1? 1.4 excludes HVAC from energy star equipment and 1.3 doesn't mention it specifically.

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Daniel LeBlanc Senior Sustainability Manager, YR&G Jan 02 2013 LEEDuser Expert 1060 Thumbs Up

I think Tristan meant EAc1.4. For LEED-CI, the EA prerequisite requires 50% Energy Star equipment, any percentage from 70-97% is given credit under EAc1.4, and an ID credit is available for 97% or more. Credit for energy savings from Energy Star equipment cannot be taken elsewhere in LEED-CI.
For LEED-NC Tristan is correct, Energy Star equipment will not qualify for an ID credit, but can count towards energy cost savings in the energy model for EAc1.

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Kasandra Martin Designer Jan 02 2013 Guest 361 Thumbs Up

EA prerequisite excludes HVAC also. So I am specifically asking about making the HVAC equipment Energy Star if that would give me points any where? It would help with energy models but is that the only place?

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Daniel LeBlanc Senior Sustainability Manager, YR&G Mar 25 2013 LEEDuser Expert 1060 Thumbs Up

That is correct.

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Caro Wilbanks lauckgroup
Dec 10 2012
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Reuse of Light Fixtures and Mechanical Vents

I am wondering if the reuse of light fixtures and mechanical vents has ever been used towards an ID credit. I understand that these divisions are not counted towards any of the MR credits. However, I have had several jobs that a very large dollar amount and cubic yardage worth of these products have been reused. In all cases the fixtures were all relatively new and meet the current energy standards.

In several case the building design was designed around how many fixtures were available for reuse. If these had been thrown away and new ones purchased several dumpster loads extra of waste would have been put in a landfill.

Is this even worth attempting?

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 14 2012 LEEDuser Moderator

Caro, to me it seems reasonable and worth attempting. I think you would need to include all MEP materials in your calculations, and show that you diverted or reused a high percentage. (Choose a threshold that seems worthy of achievement, and exceed it.) I would certainly mention that they meet energy standards in your narrative.

I don't know for sure if this will work, however. Let us know how it goes, if you do it.

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Kevin Sullivan Director Leap Sustainability Design Consulting
Nov 20 2012
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Corporate Sustainability for Innovation

Can corporate sustainability be an innovation credit for LEED , if yes what kind of innovations would they look into.

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Nov 23 2012 LEEDuser Moderator

Kevin, that's a broad question... you'll have to give us more to go on.

However, I would generally steer away from this direction. LEED focuses on the building, not the tenant's identity.

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Kara Hermann
Nov 09 2012
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Task Lighting

Does anyone know of any IDc1 points associated with task lighting? It was listed on the cutsheet, which made me wonder what it could be for. The task light is a 6watt LED light that we are putting at every workstation and private office. If you have experience or ideas, let me know. Thanks.

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Nov 23 2012 LEEDuser Moderator

Kara, I don't know of an IDc1 point for task lighitng. Cut sheets are notoriously generous in terms of assigning themselves LEED points. It seems to me that task lights are covered under various other LEED credits.

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Kara Hermann Nov 26 2012 LEEDuser Member 181 Thumbs Up

Thanks, Tristan!

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Tarek Kamel Tutor Assistant and LEED Coordinator MAConsultants
Oct 06 2012
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Ceiling credit

now we are working on project Commercial interior in Egypt ,As you know that there is no credit related to ceiling , 80% of building was used the false ceiling and this ceiling was Meets CA Dept. of Health Services Standard Practice for The testing of VOC emission and is listed on CHPS high
Performance Products Database for Low-Emitting Materials. so can we earn innovation design for this or not?

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Nov 23 2012 LEEDuser Moderator

Tarek, low-emitting ceiling systems would be a good candidate for an innovation credit. I would recommend following the requirements of LEED for Schools IEQc4.6.

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Daniel Zaneto MMA Architects
Oct 02 2012
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Borrowing EBOM Credits for ID

We plan to borrow from the EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. rating system for two of our ID credits, WEc4 Cooling Tower management, and MRc4 Reduced mercury in lamps. How have others successfully documented these credits for ID? Would a detailed narrative of the proposed programs be sufficient? We would like to be certified shortly after substantial completion, which means we'd like to avoid documenting a performance period.

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Michelle Cottrell President, Design Management Services Oct 03 2012 LEEDuser Member 732 Thumbs Up

Hi Daniel- I have a CI 3.0 project and earned EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. MRc4 Reduced Mercury as an ID point.
Just as with any "borrowed" credit for an ID point - we submitted the intent, environmental issues, requirements and approach behind the strategy. We then uploaded the calculations to prove compliance and the cut sheets of the fixtures.
I have another CI 3.0 project that just finished the design review including the same credit. We are anticipated to earn the credit using the same approach. I mention this to show there is successful consistency across our approach :)
Good luck to you!

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Christine Behrend Dec 03 2012 Guest 23 Thumbs Up

Thanks for this response Michelle, we're looking to achieve the EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. MRc4 as an ID credit for our NC project. Do you by chance know where can I find a good "sample purchasing plan" for the owner to sign?

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 03 2012 LEEDuser Moderator

Christine, I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for in terms of having the owner sign a sample plan, but LEEDuser offers several resources, templates, and spreadsheets tailored for achieving EBOM MRc4, under our Documentation Toolkit for that credt.

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Dominique Arrieta Gobbell Hays Partners, Inc.
Jun 14 2012
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EV Charging Stations

We have a CI project on a University Campus in which we are trying to get an ID point for the use of charging stations located in nearby parknig structures (various places nearby) to the project area. The project is the third floor build-out of a recently constructed LEED Gold building. No new parking was built (for either project), but by local codes doing a SF takeoff, just 35 new spaces (3% of which equals ~ 1 EV charger) would have had to have been built if the building was a stand-alone structure.

Now, seeing as how there is no SSc4.3 for CI (and therefore not contributing to an existing credit), can we get this point? Does anyone know? Thanks in advance.

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Lorne Mlotek LEED AP BD+C, LeadingGREEN Jun 15 2012 Guest 883 Thumbs Up

I think this is a great idea for an ID point. Although I have never tried doing this before for a CI project, I can see no reason not to try. The suggested credit is not addressed by any credit in the LEED CI ref. guide and thus eligible for an ID point. I think you will have an even easier time achieving this ID point simply because LEED has already recognized the benefits seen through SSc4.3. You already have the intent, requirement and doc submittals laid out for you by SSc4.3. I would suggest including a detailed narrative explaining the benefits of EV charging stations to the University Campus as a regular building as well as a school. I would also include a map of how close these EV stations are to adjacent buildings (specifically your LEED CI project). If they come back to you after 1st review, I would suggest doubling the credit requirement.

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Vickie Chen
Jun 04 2012
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Bicycle sharing for ID credit

Dear all,
Our client is a manufacturer of "electric bicycle" and they are thinking of introducing electical bicycle sharing programme for their retail project, or donating electical bicycles to the base building in which the retail shop is moving in.
Is this idea going to be an ID point? If so, how can we make it more effective/ contributing to the project?

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Emily Catacchio Sustainability Specialist, Wight and Company Jun 12 2012 Guest 7772 Thumbs Up

Vickie,

Just offering bikes on site may not be enough unless you can show it is a comprehensive plan. See above under the Birds Eye View tab: "This approach must represent an innovative design approach to a problem, must be comprehensive in scope, and must have a quantifiable environmental benefit."

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Jonathan Weiss
May 21 2012
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Material Avoidance ID?

I am working on a project where the design team wants to eliminate the majority of ceilings and flooring and go with painted deck above and polished concrete below. One of our client contacts said that he had heard of ID points being awarded for material avoidance (e.g, "the greenest material is the one you don't use"). I could not find any reference to that in the LEED interpretationLEED Interpretations are official answers to technical inquiries about implementing LEED on a project. They help people understand how their projects can meet LEED requirements and provide clarity on existing options. LEED Interpretations are to be used by any project certifying under an applicable rating system. All project teams are required to adhere to all LEED Interpretations posted before their registration date. This also applies to other addenda. Adherence to rulings posted after a project registers is optional, but strongly encouraged. LEED Interpretations are published in a searchable database at usgbc.org. database - does anyone have any knowledge or advice about that?

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Aug 30 2012 LEEDuser Moderator

Jonathan, I haven't heard of this being attempted, but it's an issue that could really use some pioneering!

But first, it might be worth a look at the drafted LEED v4 MR credits. Perhaps USGBC would consider an LCA-based approach most valid on this topic?

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David Edenburn ESD Consultant Commtech Asia
Mar 16 2012
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Power Quality Meters

Has anyone gotten a point for installing power quality meters? We have the usual power quantity meters, but the client is asking if there is a LEED incentive for cleaning up the power. It does save energy, but maybe not enough.

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Aug 30 2012 LEEDuser Moderator

David, I haven't heard of this, although it's possible someone has tried it.

However, my understanding is that products promising energy savings in this way are often oversold, and that acutal savings can vary an awful lot. So I would plan on providing a lot of documentation and expecting some skepticism from USGBC.

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Elizabeth Powers Principal O'Brien & Company
Mar 14 2012
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Green Cleaning Plan

I am working on a project where the building management has in place a green cleaningGreen cleaning is the use of cleaning products and practices that have lower environmental impacts and more positive indoor air quality impacts than conventional products and practices. plan developed for their LEED-EB certification. The tenant pursuing certification using LEED-CI is contracted to the building management's cleaning provider and therefore has green cleaning practices in their space. I am wondering if, since the green cleaning plan was developed and implemented by the base building rather than the tenant, GBCI will accept it as an innovation. In order for it to be accepted, would the tenant need to contract directly with a cleaning company and develop their own plan?

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Dominique Arrieta Gobbell Hays Partners, Inc. Jun 14 2012 LEEDuser Member 199 Thumbs Up

They will probably make you go above and beyond what was already in place; how you do that with Gren Cleaning, not sure. Hope that helps some.

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Jennifer Berthelot-Jelovic Director of Sustainability Shangri-La Construction
Feb 07 2012
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LEED ID for Electric Vehicle Charging Stations

Is it likely that by providing 5% of the parking with electric vehicle charging stations we will be able to achieve an ID point? If so, how do I got about documenting it?

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Feb 21 2012 LEEDuser Moderator

Jennifer, I always get a bit confused in LEED-CI about what you are supposed to pursue under SSc1 path 12 vs. under IDc1.

I would start by applying this under SSc1, but if you're maxed out there, then I think you should be able to achieve an ID credit. Treat it like you're complying with NC SSc4.3, and use the LEED Online documentation provided for that credit, which you can find here:
http://www.leeduser.com//credit/NC-2009/SSc4.3

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Gail von Staden Principal, von Staden Architects Mar 08 2013 Guest 196 Thumbs Up

Tristan, our project was maxed out under SSc1 path 12. So, we actually did exactly what you suggested to Jennifer, we provided appropriate documentation for NC SSc4.3 as an ID credit. However, after the first review, that ID credit turned out to be "pending" because the charging vehicle stations is a program for the base-building and not for our interior project, so they suggest that we can "apply for an alternative Innovation in Design credit for the Final Review"...What is an "alternative ID credit" and how can we go about pursuing it?

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Mar 08 2013 LEEDuser Moderator

I haven't heard that language used—I don't know. Possibly they are referring to Path 12? I would email GBCI to get clarification. Let us know what you learn.

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Kristina Bach Sustainability Specialist Mar 08 2013 LEEDuser Member 987 Thumbs Up

Generally "attempt an alternative ID credit" means that the attempted strategy simply doesn't meet the requirements/isn't applicable and that you can submit a completely different strategy instead. My understanding is that these credits is marked "Pending" so that teams don't get confused and think that they are not allowed to attempt something else in the next phase (i.e. one might be confused/think they couldn't change it if it was marked as "Denied").

That appears to be the case here from your description... Since the EV charging stations are a base-building program, it's not eligible for the ID category within LEED-CI. This is a nuance to LEED-CI as SSc1 can essentially award an extra ID-type point within Path 12 for base building strategies. As such, in LEED-CI, the ID category generally is supposed to be specific to the individual CI project pursuing certification; base building programs don't generally qualify as the CI project/team probably didn't have a role in the development of that base building program. Those base building strategies would be applicable in SSc1 under Path 12. Since you state that your project already maxed out the SSc1 Path 12 point, it sounds like you just don't have any opening to get credit for that additional base building EV program.

Having not seen the full review comment, that's my best-guess for what that "attempt an alternative ID strategy" phrase means based on its usual usage. If that doesn't make sense in the context of the overall comment, you definitely should follow up with your review team to be extra sure. Wouldn't want to see you lose out on an ID point if you can come up with a different/new strategy.

Hope that helps!

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Baani Singh LEED Consultant D2D Green Interiors
Jan 12 2012
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Active Design- LEED ID credit Physical Activity- LEED NC & CI

You can earn a LEED ID credit by promoting Physical activity in your building. Most of the strategies are already in LEED CI& NC. Please contact baani00@yahoo.com for more information on this credit. Active Design Guidelines are free to download from www.nyc.gov/adg.
This Credit can be used for any building type- EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems.; Schools; Homes Multi-family; ND; Healthcare and more.Credit has been used for 6 projects and 20 more in pipeline.

NYC’s Active Design Program is lead by NYC’s Departments of Health, Design + Construction, City Planning, and Transportation and AIANY. As you may have heard, NYC’s Active Design Program is dedicated to improving opportunities for physical activity through improved design of our urban spaces, streets, and buildings, as a means to combating today’s obesity and related chronic disease epidemics.

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Maria Porter Environmental Certification Engineer Skanska Sweden
Nov 29 2011
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Beehives on rooftops – ID credit?

I think I have a great idea for an ID credit (maybe someone already has tried it). For my CI-project I want to have beehives on the (green) roof. Do you think that it would qualify as an ID credit? Have you heard of anyone who has tried it?
I could explain how bees are dying globally because of a mite, that 80 % of our food would not be on our tables if we didn’t have bees pollinating our plants, that species of plants in our city parks are dying due to lack of pollinators etc. Bees are essential to our eco system!

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 17 2011 LEEDuser Moderator

Maria, this sounds like a fantastic idea, just (in my opinion) not something that LEED is likely to recognize as an ID credit.

Let's say you're using a super-innovative elevator on the project that saves a ton of energy... LEED will say that use of a single technology is not comprehensive enough to qualify for IDc1, and energy savings are already covered under EAp2.

Same thing here—putting beehives on the roof seems like using one 'technology" and is not a comprehensive strategy for sustainable food, habitat, or education. I could see the beehives contributing to a habitat credit or an ID point for education, or for food, using EBOM MRc6 as a model.

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Maria Porter Environmental Certification Engineer, Skanska Sweden Jan 13 2012 LEEDuser Member 2383 Thumbs Up

Tristan thank you for your reply
If I were to try this idea, what do you think would be my strategy to have it approved? I could submit it in design phase and get feedback.
I am planning on having lectures on the subject of the problem of global bee death and the importance of having bees. Then I am also planning on having the honey as educating gifts to both staff and clients of our company. One could have stickers on the jar educating people as well as letting them understand it was actually produced in the middle of a capital city. Signage in the building communicating the message could also be done. Do you think that would be awarded with ID credit? What else could I do?

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jan 13 2012 LEEDuser Moderator

Maria, this sounds to me like a good approach. I have not heard about other LEED projects focusing an education credit on one specific issue, so you're a little unique there, but the fact that you are providing comprehensive education on it and linking it to the building seems good. To be on the safe side I might also highlight any other habitat impacts of the building, to make the educational component even more comprehensive.

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Maria Porter Environmental Certification Engineer, Skanska Sweden May 20 2013 LEEDuser Member 2383 Thumbs Up

I did a great job in extending this approach to be educational and informational. But it was just denied in the first review without any comments on how to improve it!

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. May 20 2013 LEEDuser Moderator

Was there a reason given for the rejection?

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Maria Porter Environmental Certification Engineer, Skanska Sweden May 21 2013 LEEDuser Member 2383 Thumbs Up

To me it seems that you are only allowed to think inside the box, not outside. Three of my innovations were denied (and I know the criteria for an ID-credit). So I'm changing them to 'the old usual ones'. Review comments were: "The strategy consists of only one product and is therefore not comprehensive; the strategy is not quantified using a baseline and design case; and only those strategies that have significant environmental benefits - beyond standard sustainable design practices are applicable to Innovation in Design credits."

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Raphael Sperry Simon & Associates, Inc. Green Building Sonsultants
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Base building EBOM credits denied

I've had a pair of CIv2009 projects just denied (at first review) a couple of innovation points where the base building provides Green CleaningGreen cleaning is the use of cleaning products and practices that have lower environmental impacts and more positive indoor air quality impacts than conventional products and practices., Integrated Pest ManagementIntegrated pest management (IPM) is the coordinated use of knowledge about pests, the environment, and pest prevention and control methods to minimize pest infestation and damage by the most economical means while minimizing hazards to people, property, and the environment., and a Zero-Waste Plan to tenants. GBCI's comments say:
"The documentation provided indicates that this is a program developed and implemented by the base building rather than one developed and implemented by this LEED-CI project. Note that Innovation in Design credits are only available to programs developed and implemented by the specific LEED-CI project and that all base-building strategies may only be submitted under SSc1 Option 2 - Path 12."

I have a few problems with this: these projects are in a LEED-NC certified building (although the certification was only awarded while our CI project was under review) so we can't/aren't using SSc1 Option 2. Even if we were, we could only get one point and we are participating in a number of green operations. The SSC1 Option 1 certification is for NC so it actually doesn't cover these items. So is that a needless restriction on getting recognition for green operations?

Also, does anyone see where the Reference Guide says that innovation credits can't be earned just because some of these services are provided and organized by the base building? The tenants are effectively paying for these services with their rent -- why does it matter to GBCI if the janitorial or IPM contract is held by the tenant or the landlord as long as the space is managed green? In some cases, landlords require tenants to use their vendors -- if they are green, shouldn't this be worthy of special recognition, rather than disqualifying you for points?

Shared thoughts / experiences would be welcome.

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 17 2011 LEEDuser Moderator

Raphael, I have always been a bit confused about how USGBC sees Path 12 vs. IDc1. In my opinion the relationship is not clear and leads to situations like this that don't seem to really make sense.

I also agree with you on the base building issue.

However, I can't offer any insight in terms of a more successful way to frame these issues. I hope that others will weigh in here, or perhaps you'll get a LEED InterpretationLEED Interpretations are official answers to technical inquiries about implementing LEED on a project. They help people understand how their projects can meet LEED requirements and provide clarity on existing options. LEED Interpretations are to be used by any project certifying under an applicable rating system. All project teams are required to adhere to all LEED Interpretations posted before their registration date. This also applies to other addenda. Adherence to rulings posted after a project registers is optional, but strongly encouraged. LEED Interpretations are published in a searchable database at usgbc.org. on this.

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Kim Sosalla-Bahr Sustainable Design Project Manager, LEED AP BD+C HDR Architecture, Inc.
Nov 16 2011
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Green cleaning innovation points

In looking to another LEED rating system for potential innovation points, you find several credits for green cleaningGreen cleaning is the use of cleaning products and practices that have lower environmental impacts and more positive indoor air quality impacts than conventional products and practices. in the v2009 EB O+M rating system. Can a project pursue multiple green cleaning innovation points based on these multiple credits? For example, if the project fulfills EB O+M IEQ cr 3.1 with a green cleaning program and then put it into place, can they also pursue IEQ credits 3.3, 3.4 and 3.5, for a potential of 4 innovation credits?

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Susann Geithner Global Sustainability Manager, Predictive Service Nov 16 2011 LEEDuser Member 11768 Thumbs Up

You will have to submit this under SS1 path 12. see also Winni's questions here http://www.leeduser.com/credit/CI-2009/SSc1

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Kevin Wilcox Jul 10 2012 LEEDuser Member 194 Thumbs Up

We have recently received a similar denial comment for a LEED CI-2009 project in which we submitted an ID credit based upon two separate EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. credits (Green CleaningGreen cleaning is the use of cleaning products and practices that have lower environmental impacts and more positive indoor air quality impacts than conventional products and practices. Policy & Green Housekeeping Program). These were taken from one of our LEED EBOM projects we had recently had certified. We provided the documentation and the denial comment stated the issue related to base building strategies vs specific LEED CI projects. Is it possible the problem is we should change our description to reference that this innovation credit is intended only for the LEED CI space being submitted for. The distinction noted stated that base building focused ID credits are only pursuable under SSc1 Option 2 - Path 12. We plan to resubmit this ID credit with revised language stating it only applies to the LEED CI project area. Frankly this appears to be a contradiction as if we apply a policy related to our LEED CI space and extend it to capture the entire building doesn't the sustainability benefit for the entire building warrant consieration?

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Kevin Wilcox Aug 30 2012 LEEDuser Member 194 Thumbs Up

Have you received any response to your re-worded reply for these two innvoation credits? I submitted the same ID credits for a LEED CI-2009 project and they were denied with the same explanation noted. Since I was able to achieve our LEED certification without these two points I just dropped them without submitting an appeal. I believe the revised language response should be sufficient to gain approval of these ID credits. I am preparing another LEED CI project for submittal and would like to include these ID credits. Any update on your staus woudl be appreicated.

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