Excerpted from LEED 2009 for Commercial Interiors
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Hi. This LEEDuser forum is specifically about completing the PI form 1. Most people's questions here are about either policy compliance with MPRs, or about the review process. Please post your questions to the more specific forums that are appropriate to these questions, most likely one of these:
Review issues, LEED process, submittal questions, etc.
Again, please don't post here... post to one of those forums. You'll be much much more likely to get the help you need!
I'm helping a colleague who has a project that was registered in 2011 for LEED CI 2009 and construction completed / substantial completion in 2011. Work on LEED proceeded very slowly due to owner and consultant foot-dragging. Now the project is ready to submit and the LEED reviewer is saying the project is too old to be certified, citing a 2 year sunset clause in the "Policy Manual". No warning was apparently ever given to the team.
Has anyone every successfully gotten out of a situation like this?
Yeah, my team had also heard about this limitation and we always warn our clients months before the two years after building occupation. I think i tis going to be difficult to argue with the reviewers...
Hello, we have been trying to get an answer from the USGBC for two days short of a full month now. Is there any other way of contacting them other than the email@example.com email address or toll-free number? I have sent two emails, spoke with a phone rep. who could not answer my question, and submitted a question via the website. The question itself is pretty basic: can we combine two tenant spaces in the same building into one LEED project or are two separate LEED projects required? We are dealing with one building owner and two different tenants and would like to expedite documentation and reduce fees. Thank you for any advice provided, Chris
It's tough, they do get backed up and that is not that unusual. I'd keep pestering them. If the project is registered, you could submit an inquiry under the "Interpretations" tab. I've never done that but might help.
In the meantime, have you looked carefully through the MPR and also the "Supplemental Guidance"? That goes through alot of scenarios and might help you. http://www.usgbc.org/Docs/Archive/General/Docs6473.pdf
But I guess a question is, who is the legal authority / client on the certification? If there is one building owner and one legal entity wanting to certify, then I think it would depend on questions of contiguity of the space(s) and gerrymandering per the MPRs and supplemental guidance. But if there are two tenants, and they function as two owners, that could be iffy unless one of them is willing to sign the legal agreement and function as the single "owner" for both. Hope that helps a little.
I have some question about LEED Commercial Interior certification :
1) Situation: we have a offices building that has a basement in common with other two offices buildings. These (the 3 buildings together) have been certified with Core and shell v.2009 last years. Now the customer wants to obtain the LEED Commercial interior certification, for only 1 of the 3 buildings. The commercial interior certification will involved the whole “interior area” of the building (because the tenant is only one).
- According to the statement “The LEED project boundary must include all contiguous land that is associated with the project and supports its typical operations” (http://www.usgbc.org/credits/mpr3) Which are the spaces we have to consider into the Leed boundary, (beyond space dedicated to offices)?
- Have we to consider the portion of basement (basement with parkings and service rooms dedicated to the 3 buildings but with defined and dedicated portions to each involved building) dedicated to that building or the basement is not to be consider into the LEED boundary?
2) Situation: these 3 buildings are now certified with Core and Shall rating. So now someone is monitoring, according to Minimum program requirements, the consumption of water and electricity (core and shell certificated in 2014) for 5 years.
If we want to obtain the LEED CI certification for our building, how will be conducted the monitoring of the end uses? Will it be in addition to those made now according to Core and Shell certification? or it replace that for the building in question?
Elena, could you please post these questions to our MPR3 and MPR6 forums, respectively? Thanks!
A commercial tenant has a lease on a whole building. two areas of the building, a gym and a cafe for employees, are completely separated (ie party walls with no connecting interior door) and will be built out by vendors (cafeteria and gym operators). They will be used only for the employees and visitors to the leaseholder. The spaces do not have separate leases or subleases.
The rest of the builidng TI is complete and occupied. These other areas, however, remain un-built-out, and the extra air demand for a gym has not yet been dealt with in the mechanical system.
These spaces were included in the preliminary design submittal, but caused significant problems .
Is it possible to exclude them from the resubmittal, especially if we provide photos showing they are not occupied?
This seems like a stretch to me, but the team is pushing on it, so I could use an outside opinion.
Hello, We are working on a multi-use building that will house a hotel, residence, retail and a restaurant. The Hotel is the only portion working towards LEED Certification and is doing so under LEED-CI. Intertwined with the hotel space is a restaurant but the restaurant is also not part of the LEED Scope. The restaurant will be fitted out by a sub-tenant at a later date. Has anyone had experience with this type of situation in reference to incomplete spaces when submitting for review? Our predicted path of action based on LI#10102 is the restaurant space will be treated like an empty-shell space where owner will be required to provide the Letter of Commitment for the restaurant. In addition, a Tenant Design and Construction guideline will be developed. Any insight is appreciated if a better approach has been attempted. Thanks!
We have had a recent enquiry from a client. He has an existing industrial site, which is non certified. He wants to relocate another industrial activity in this site. In other words, within the existing factory building of this site, he would like to create a dedicated space for this relocation. It is very likely that such space would be a HVAC zone in itself. We have analyzed supplemental guidance for MPR and conclude that it is possible to certify such space under LEED-CI. But having no previous similar experience, I would like another opinion on this.
To my opinion, LEED-CI has been designed primarily for retails, not for industrial activity. But this case could meet MPR requirements.
Does anyone has a feedback on such situation?
We are working on a project where we are the sole tenant in the building. Can we use the whole building meters for our MPR6 reporting if there is no other user in the building? Base BuildingThe base building includes elements such as the structure, envelope, and building-level mechanical systems, such as central HVAC, and materials and products installed in the project (e.g., flooring, casework, wall coverings). is pursuing LEED CS, so they should be providing metering (we're working on that).
Jonathan, can you post this to our MPR6 forum? Thanks.
I am working on a CI project that is within a LEED Platinum building. The base buildingThe base building includes elements such as the structure, envelope, and building-level mechanical systems, such as central HVAC, and materials and products installed in the project (e.g., flooring, casework, wall coverings). did not install tenant submeteringSubmetering is used to determine the proportion of energy use within a building attributable to specific end uses or subsystems (e.g., the heating subsystem of an HVAC system).. It does, however share whole building energy use data with the USGBC.
For the purposes of the CI project the form states that the Energy Star Portfolio name must match the LEED project name and if not, the CI project should be listed under registered property in portfolio manager. Is this necessary if tenant submetering is not possible? Shouldn't I simply claim the exemption with a narrative and leave the Energy Star Portfolio the way it is?
I have this same question. We only have a water meter for the entire building, our CI is located in. When the template asks about metering water for the "entire project" does that refer to the Core and Shell project or the CI project?
We have recently received substantial completion for construction for one of our projects. The project was registered for design part during inception of the design but is not yet submitted for any review.
Is there a timeline for submitting the construction document.
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