CI-2009 PIf2: Project Summary Details

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    Excerpted from LEED 2009 for Commercial Interiors

    PI f2: Project Information Form 2

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Kate Bubriski Architect
Nov 18 2014
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Initial fit-out vs alteration

Project Location: United States

I have a project that is a tenant fit-out in an existing building. The tenant spaceTenant space is the area within the LEED project boundary. For more information on what can and must be in the LEED project boundary see the Minimum Program Requirements (MPRs) and LEED 2009 MPR Supplemental Guidance. Note: tenant space is the same as project space. has been occupied by previous tenants in the past but was completely demolished of any previous tenant fit-out prior to my project leasing the space. Would my project fit-out be classified as initial fit-out or alteration on the PIf2 form?

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A Commings Jan 28 2015 Guest 97 Thumbs Up

I have the same question. Our project involves demolition of 75% of a floor, and then a fit-up with new partition walls. Not sure if this falls under alteration or fit-up, and cannot seem to find any clarification between the two on the USGBC website.

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Joseph Greene Owner/Architect, Joseph Architects Apr 15 2015 Guest 919 Thumbs Up

I too have the same question. What is the LEED definition of alteration verses fit-out?

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Kristen Fritsch Designer, Elkus Manfredi Architects Jul 01 2015 LEEDuser Member 14 Thumbs Up

I too am wondering what the difference between initial fit-out (is that empty shell area that does not need to be demo'd?) and alteration (area that involved demolition work? )

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Kristen Fritsch Designer, Elkus Manfredi Architects Jul 09 2015 LEEDuser Member 14 Thumbs Up

I asked USGBC and was directed to this document:
http://www.usgbc.org/Docs/Archive/General/Docs6667.pdf
If you go to resources and search for "Rating System Selection Guidance", it should come up.

Here is the definition from that document:

Alteration: Includes improvement work in addition to the rearrangement of any interior space by the construction of non-bearing walls, partitions, ceilings, and floors, the addition or elimination of any interior door or window, the extension or rearrangement of any mechanical, electrical and plumbing (MEP) or service system (peripheral or core), and the installation of any additional equipment or fixtures. Typically work does not extend to the primary structural components, exterior shell, or roof of the building.

Interior Fit-Out: The installation or application of interior finishes, floor and ceiling systems, non-bearing partitions, furniture, interior doors and windows, and other components that make a space fully usable for the purpose it is intended. A complete interior fit-out is such that no further construction work is needed or intended for occupancy.

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Wolfgang Werner May 27 2016 LEEDuser Member 294 Thumbs Up

Can the USGBC make this any more confusing? These 2 definitions seem to muddy the waters more than anything else... I truly don't understand the distinction, as it seems that a typical commercial TI project would fit under either definition... Does anyone have additional wisdom to share? Thanks!

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Lakshmikanth Kousik Toppe Jeyabalan ESD Consultant Aurecon
Jun 26 2014
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Sewage Conveyance from the site

My project is in Singapore and it is a norm here that all the building sewage will be connected to the public utility drains and send for treatment, reclamation & disposal.
I have been requested to provide details about how the sewage would be conveyed from the site for a LEED CI project?.

1) Is it norm to provide sewage conveyance details for a LEED CI project?

2) All the toilets are outside my LEED project bondary (though i would be counting the toilet fixtures for my WE credits) and provided by the base buildingThe base building includes elements such as the structure, envelope, and building-level mechanical systems, such as central HVAC, etc.. What information or documentation should suffice for the clarification?

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 29 2015 LEEDuser Moderator

Lakshmikanth, sorry for the slow reply -- I missed this comment. If it's still relevant, can you provide any more detail on why you are being asked for this info? A quote from the GBCIThe Green Building Certification Institute (GBCI) manages Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) building certification and professional accreditation processes. It was established in 2008 with support from the U.S. Green Building Council (USGBC). comment would help.

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