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I have a general question regarding submitted drawings. We are at 100% DD's and wanted to create the documentation for the sustainable sites criteria. We could create a site plan to show how we meet the necessary requirements for open space, preferred parkingPreferred parking, available to particular users, includes designated spaces close to the building (aside from designated handicapped spots), designated covered spaces, discounted parking passes, and guaranteed passes in a lottery system., bike spaces. We also wanted to submit a plan showing we meet the prereq. for recycling. I am not sure yet, but I think we will do a split review and submit these during the design review (which will probably be before we finish CD's). Do I have to ever update these plans at any point to match the 100% CD plans if the calculated areas don't change? Also, 2nd question...I assume the drawings submitted for the overview documents would be at the 100% CD level?
Is there a right time to start the performance period in LEED EB_OM?
Can we determine it anyway we want, or there is a right way to set a starting date?
How should we communicate and report what is going to be our performance period?
Since its a question that is related to many credits, I´m not sure if here is the right place to be asking this one.
I appreciate any help with that.
Thanks in advance!
Here is a link to LEEDuser's dedicate forum on Performance Period questions:
Thank you very much Tristan!
Is it mandatory to translate the mechanical drawings to american english. The project is originally designed in spanish.
I'm on a New Construction project and Preform4 asks for Mechanical plans and/or drawings, i'm not sure if these refer to HVAC plans only, or if it includes other plans such as MEP ones (HVAC, electrical, plumbing, irrigation).
Jose, we have the same question that we've posted in this forum a few times now but no answer. Did you have a feedback on that? Does anyone know if it's only HVAC or it includes MEP?
Unfortunately, we haven't got any feedback on this subject yet. I guess I'll upload HVAC and MEP, just in case. But i'll stay alert if anyone gives some feedback before i need to submitt the first review.
Someone else posted the following (which I'm having trouble with, as well) elsewhere on leeduser:
"I’m not sure I am successfully uploading pdf files on PIf4 at “Overview Documents”. I’ve browsed my computer for the pdf file and, since there is no “Upload Files” to click as directed, I tried 1) clicking “Upload” in the upper left corner and 2) clicking “File Uploads” in the gray bar at the top. However, when I return to the form there is still a 0 to the right of “Upload”. How do we know if the documents are loaded? Thanks for enduring what is probably an obvious question."
Any thoughts on what we might be doing wrong?
Has anyone responded to your question, I don't see anything here on the discussion site.
Not yet. Hoping someone can shed some light.
If you're using Internet Explorer, depending on the version, you may have to click compatability. I believe somewhere on leedonline it tells you how to do this and what versions it's needed for. You can also do a Google (or such) search on how to go into compatability view. I believe the message scrolls across at the top of your screen.
We are currently documenting the requirements for PIf4 and our option in order to comply is to provide a Tenant/Lease Agreement for certain credits. The LEED requirement says, "provide the legally binding document associated with the project, signed by both the developer and the tenant, explicitly stating the performance requirements for the tenant work." Since at this time, it is still unknown to the owner who will be occupying the tenant spaces and no one has to sign yet for the tenant. What other options can we do to meet the requirement? Please advise. Thanks a lot!
Does the requirement for PIf4: mechanical schedule refer to the provision of MEP plans or simply to HVAC plans? (In Europe mechanical and electrical planning is commonly divided into separate parties, with mechanical engineers designing the HVAC-R and plumbing.)
Did you get an answer for that? I have the same question, here in Brazil electrical and mechanical plans are developed separately, by different professionals. I'm not cleared of what the template considers as "mechanical" plans and "mechanical" schedules. Can anyone help us to clarify that?
no comment so far, but I hope reposting this comment might help us promote an answer. In my understanding most of the world inlcuding Europe and South America divides MEP-planning into HVAC-R incl. plumbing on the one hand and Electrical planning on the other...
Does the announced holidays of GBCI from 25 feb 2012-1 fan 2013 count as holidays and will not be included in 25 bussiness days of appealing preriod?
I would think so, but you'll need to confirm with GBCI - I'd hate to give you an outside opinion and be wrong!
We haven't finished yet the design of the mechanical system, so the mechanical plans that we have are just a current aproximation.
Is it mandatory to upload the mechanical drawings during the design submittal?
What do you suggest us?
Thanks in advance for your time.
You will need complete mechanical drawings at some point, but it’s common for some HVAC systems to be designed later, especially in “design-build” situations, so you have two options:
1. You can defer that credit to the Construction phase (unattempt the credit for the design submittal) and wait until you do the construction phase submittals or,
2. Submit as detailed a drawing as you can, and provide a mechanical narrative or “performance specification” that says what specifications or performance requirements the HVAC contractor will be required to meet.
The advantage of #2 is you may get back preliminary comments on your design submittal that gives you a better idea of what you’ll need to show in your documentation. Once you have that feedback, if you still won’t have enough information until after the design phase you could unattempt the credit for now and re-attempt it during the construction phase.
Does that make sense?
We are doing an interior renovation to an existing building. They plan to do only the interior upgrades and no change of the HVAC system. Do we still have to provide the mechanical schedule/plan for HVAC system?
Diana, you still need to provide the mechanical schedule and plans so that GBCI can understand how the building is using energy for heating, cooling and ventilation (so it jives with your energy model).
I am about to appeal for my project.
if some of the credits are denied again, can we try to correct the report or modify the building to comply with the requirment and appeal again? (the fee will be paid agian)
Yes, you have a second chance - the "Final Level Appeal." The policy is a bit complicated, so you should check the current Certification Policy Manual at:
I was considering sending every floor plan that has something different in order to comply with "representative floorplans", but I double thought about it and considered it would be a bit too much.
For example, our project has, starting from basement up to the roof:
7 tipical basement levels (parking)
1 parking level that is different due to mechanical rooms to the 7 tipical before
1 parking level with retail
Lower level (lobby)
10 tipical floorplans (speculative office)
Penthouse 1 (speculative office)
Pentshouse 2 (different to Penthouse 1 and speculative office)
Should I include all of these? Or can I leave some of those out of the package?
Any comments will be appreciated.
You might be fine with one typical parking level, the parking level with retail, the lobby, one of the typical spec office floors and the machinery floor. If the roof or penthouse levels have areas that contribute to LEED credits such as green roof, stormwater management, heat island reduction, etc, then you'd want to include those as well.
It's a judgment call and will vary from project to project, but the main goal is to allow any credit reviewer access to plans that show all the key areas of the building that affect LEED issues and explain how the building works. Section(s) and elevations drawing are important to include for that reason.
It's hard to define exactly where the sweet spot will be for just enough information without providing too much, but that's what we are aiming for.
Thanks a lot David!!
I have a question regarding appropriate document types for Upload L-6. The developer intends to achieve LEED credits for the building based on tenant cooperation/compliance. However, they do not want to put this wording in a lease. What type of documents, outside of a lease, are acceptable for this option? Can we simply upload a documnet stating that tenant will comply with guidelines and developer will enforce?
The spaces referenced above are C & S retail areas. Certain systems, (i.e. HVAC) have been designed accordingly, but require tenant compliance in order to receive max. performance and therefore, LEED points.
We've seen some building owners provide all tenants and prospective tenants with a "tenant manual" that describes the building systems and LEED strategies that are being used. The manuals also describe the benefits of these strategies, and provide resources such as product suggestions, sub-contractors, or vendors the tenants can use to align their fit-out with the LEED goals of the building. For example, the manual might list sources for low-emitting finishes, or subs who have experience with following IAQIndoor air quality: The quality and attributes of indoor air affecting the health and comfort building occupants. IAQ encompasses available fresh air, contaminant levels, acoustics and noise levels, lighting quality, and other factors. plans and tracking construction waste.
One of the biggest hurdles in getting future tenants to change their specs is the uncertainty and perceived risk of doing something different from what they know has worked for them in the past. The more information you can provide on products, prices, performance, suppliers, etc. to reduce that uncertainty, the easier it is for tenants to adopt LEED compliant design and construction.
If we are doing split review should this date be for the Design Review?
Sure - though I don't think this is a "hard date" with any consequences for it being off. I imagine it might be used for GBCI to predict their workload.
Does someone know what I'm supposed to upload in the point that says Lease Associated with LEED? Thanks! Romina
Is this a specific credit such as SSc9 (Tenant Guidelines) in the Core and Shell rating system or MRc1.1 (Long Term Lease) in Commercial Interiors?
This is in Retail CI, in the PIF 4: Schedule and Overview Documents. It's not the Long Term Commitment of CI MR1.1. Thanks.
It appears this upload (L-6) is linked to MRc1.1 for the long term lease. I checked the EAp2 and WEp1 forms and it does not pull in this associated upload, so if your project is not pursuing MRc1.1 or if you do not have a lease (maybe you own the space?), I recommend uploading a narrative explaining this.
I have a simple questions but I can't seem to find the answer. What is the required filename format for uploading documents?
I see no one has responded to this question yet. I'm on my third LEED project now and have not been informed that my files could not be used because they had incorrect file names. For my record keeping purposes I use a shortened version of the project name_description of the file (ie elevations)_and date. As I said though, I'm not sure it matters to them....
I agree with Caroline—there is no required format that I have ever been aware of or followed.
I have realized something through my projects: If you have special signs/characters in the file name, like “&” for example, then you are not able to open the file from LEED Online. Just a tip!
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