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Mathilda Jonsson Environmental Certification Engineer (LEED AP BD+C) Skanska
Jan 27 2014
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Tenant switch in a EBOM certified building

Hi all
My project is LEED EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. certified since 2010. In summer the current tenant are moving out and a new one will move in. The various maintenance management plans were developed as part of the certification and are based on how the current tenant manages the building, the tenat cares for the operation and maintenance of the building. Also, with the new tenants comes also a new AHU1.Air-handling units (AHUs) are mechanical indirect heating, ventilating, or air-conditioning systems in which the air is treated or handled by equipment located outside the rooms served, usually at a central location, and conveyed to and from the rooms by a fan and a system of distributing ducts. (NEEB, 1997 edition) 2.A type of heating and/or cooling distribution equipment that channels warm or cool air to different parts of a building. This process of channeling the conditioned air often involves drawing air over heating or cooling coils and forcing it from a central location through ducts or air-handling units. Air-handling units are hidden in the walls or ceilings, where they use steam or hot water to heat, or chilled water to cool the air inside the ductwork. and new windows. When I read about recertification the performance period reaches from certification completed (the previously) until registration for recertification. But in our case that performance period is not interesting since new managemant plans will be deveoloped with the new tenant and new energy consuming system (AHU) and windows will be installed. With this information, would you say that a recertification would be efficient for us or should we just go for a regular EBOM certification?

Thankful for any thoughts!

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Barry Giles Founder & CEO, USGBC LEED Faculty, LEED AP O+M, BuildingWise LLC Jan 27 2014 LEEDuser Expert 3834 Thumbs Up

Mathilda, Here the comment I just posted for Jaida on the Re-certification page: Jaida, great question because it really highlights the difference between BD&C thinking and EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. concepts. The focus of a re-certification is to provide data to show how the building has been managed over the previous time based on the standards set at the initial certification. The new incoming tenant has no influence on that data...it should have already been compiled by the existing tenant. Examples are Energy Star, water meter readings, & purchasing records. The incoming tenant has two options: 1. To recert right now to benchmark the building as at the time they moved in. (Then they can make all the changes they like and recert again when they wish to do so...any time in the NEXT 5 years). 2. Do nothing right now but make the changes that they want to do...wait a year for those changes to have an effect...then recert. (All the policies and program changes will then have an effect that is measurable)

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David Wood Property Coordinator Jones Lang Lasalle/ BNY Mellon
Jun 24 2013
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Recertification

I had one more question about recertification. I read something that stated in LEED Online there will be a "recertify button" that you could press to recertify rather than registering your project as a new project with the note saying recertification. Can anybody shed some light on this for me?

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Tristan Roberts LEED AP BD+C, Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Nov 05 2013 LEEDuser Moderator

David, that's a great idea, but I don't think it's a reality yet.

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David Wood Property Coordinator Jones Lang Lasalle/ BNY Mellon
Jun 18 2013
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Recertification

Good morning, I had a question about recertification. My building is currently certified under V2.0 and we are up for recertification in 2015. We recieved certification in 2010. The question I have is for the performance period. Some places I read say you have to display information from the time you originally got certified(2010-present). Other documents said 12 months and I even found one that said the most recent 25% of performance period. We have the information from when we originally recieved certification but wanted to know if it is neccasary to provide 5 years worth of tracking or the most recent 12 months?

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Trista Little Sustainability Manager, YR&G Jun 18 2013 LEEDuser Expert 1474 Thumbs Up

Hi David,

USGBC updated the official LEED-EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. Recertification Guidance as of April 2013, which you can download here: http://www.usgbc.org/resources/leed-existing-buildings-operations-amp-ma.... It has a nice matrix that shows the data tracking requirements credit by credit.

If you're certified under EBv2.0, it might make sense to go for an initial certification under EBOMv2009 instead of doing a recertification, since the credit requirements are fairly different between the two rating system versions. You also might want to reach out to USGBC/GBCI directly to talk through your recertification options.

Thanks,
Trista

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Jared Silliker Owner, Silliker + Partners Aug 06 2013 LEEDuser Member 917 Thumbs Up

Hey Trista ... I'm in a similar scenario to David's ... if we switch rating systems, do you know if we need to let the entire 5 years pass? Given the longer performance periods, I'm leaning towards a fresh project, but would rather get started before the 5 year window closes.

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Trista Little Sustainability Manager, YR&G Aug 09 2013 LEEDuser Expert 1474 Thumbs Up

Hi Jared, you can recertify as often as every 12 months, regardless of the rating system version.

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Jared Silliker Owner, Silliker + Partners Aug 09 2013 LEEDuser Member 917 Thumbs Up

I fear that recertification is coming to mean a couple things here. Since this is a second certification for the building, yes it's recertification ... but we'd rather not use GBCI's "recertification" guidelines (those with longer performance periods). Instead, I'm investigating whether I can register brand new project, as if it was the building's first certification, and thus use much shorter performance periods. Is this clear as mud now?

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Trista Little Sustainability Manager, YR&G Aug 09 2013 LEEDuser Expert 1474 Thumbs Up

This is a great question. The answer seems to be evolving over time, and is actually decided on a pretty project-specific basis. My understanding is that USGBC prefers that projects use the recertification guidance and the longer performance period that goes with it. This is particularly true if your project was initially certified when the guidance was published. But if your project was certified before the guidance was released, you may be able to get permission to do another "initial" certification, without having to wait for 5 years to pass. It's not totally clear when this is allowed, however, so I strongly suggest contacting USGBC and discussing it with them directly. There's no point in trying to guess what you'll be allowed to do - talking through your specific situation with them and getting confirmation in writing that your strategy is acceptable is a good insurance policy.

Hope this helps,
Trista

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Barry Giles Founder & CEO, USGBC LEED Faculty, LEED AP O+M, BuildingWise LLC Aug 09 2013 LEEDuser Expert 3834 Thumbs Up

Jared. Your original question was 'can we switch rating systems?’ The answer is that you will be in whatever 'Version' of LEED EB that is current the day that you register. In that case ALL the support data will need to be ‘available’ (though not uploaded to GBCI) So if the performance period ended December 2010 in version 2, then to 're-certify' the building, and registering the building today, you would be in version 3 for LEED EB. And required to supply all the data. Now as Trista points out the variations between version 2 and version 3 (jumping over version 2008) can be summed up in this short sentence. "Run as fast as possible the other way". Ok, I jest...but pick the phone up to GBCI and explain the problem. Currently there are 'pathways' to upgrades of versions available direct from GBCI including help with data sets required to fulfill the 5 year rule.
Now here's a hint. The day you receive the certification of ANY LEED EB...immediately register the building for recertification. That way, and as long as you don't hit the one day that a new version comes out, you should be registered in the SAME version that you just got the plaque for... then the re-certification problem goes away.

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Barry Giles Founder & CEO, USGBC LEED Faculty, LEED AP O+M, BuildingWise LLC Aug 09 2013 LEEDuser Expert 3834 Thumbs Up

Just noticed that all these comments are under LEED CI heading...where of course there is no such thing as re-certification.

Perhaps Tristan would like to move these post to LEED EB heading

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