EBOM 2009 MRc1: Sustainable Purchasing—Ongoing Consumables

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  • Tracking purchases

    Credit achievement is based on the cost of environmentally preferable purchases compared to the cost of total, ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories. purchased. All consumables (environmentally preferable and not) must be tracked.

    Tracking the environmental qualities of ongoing consumables is often a new process for project teams. Customize your tracking plan to accommodate unique product consumption and tracking needs.

    Once you have a tracking system in place and all the tenants...

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Lauren Wallace Certifications Department Manager Epsten Group, Inc.
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Mixed Use - Office/ Residential

My project contains 12 floors of commercial office space (95% occupied), a ground floor retail (100% occupied), and 30 stories of residential (30% occupied). As I understand it, we could easily go about the EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. process by excluding the upper residential floors. But what if the upper residential floors were to be included in the certification? I am not sure how we could include them in any tracking credits, which would limit our opportunities for certification. And as they are more than 10% of the floor area, they couldn't be excluded. The MPRs do not address this. I understand that we could use tenant guidelines for all the policies, but is there any way to exclude them from the tracking credits base on ownership? Any advice would be great.

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Barry Giles USGBC LEED Faculty, LEED AP O+M, CEO, BuildingWise LLC Feb 01 2012 Guest Expert 365 Thumbs Up

Unfortunately unless the residential can be 'separated' from the rest of the structure you will need to complete LEED EB v3 for the complete building. Separation 'could' take place because the residential is a separate segment to the side of the main structure or because it sits on top. However Vertically Attached Buildings and separate structures are covered in MPR's where you will find specific requirements of how to designate 'separate'.
Try: www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=7177
And search this website, LEED User, for guidance

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Lauren Wallace Certifications Department Manager, Epsten Group, Inc. Feb 01 2012 Guest 6 Thumbs Up

Thank you for the quick reply. The building is able to be vertically separated. But that was not what I was specifically asking, if we do choose to certify the entire building as one, is there any way to exclude the residential areas from tracking?

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Barry Giles USGBC LEED Faculty, LEED AP O+M, CEO, BuildingWise LLC Feb 01 2012 Guest Expert 365 Thumbs Up

"......if we do chose to certify the entire building as one"....then everything must be included. That is why we chose to make the specifics of vertical separation so detailed. Sounds like from your post that you can separate out the residential and that sounds the best course.

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Lauren Wallace Certifications Department Manager, Epsten Group, Inc. Feb 01 2012 Guest 6 Thumbs Up

Thanks for your help.

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Melissa Merryweather Director Green Consult-Asia
Oct 30 2011
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soy based ink

Might seem obvious, but would soy-based inks qualify as rapidly renewableTerm describing a natural material that is grown and harvested on a relatively short-rotation cycle (defined by the LEED rating system to be ten years or less).? I haven't seen mention of this anywhere. The office I'm working on has 10x higher expenditure on printing ink than all other office supplies put together.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Oct 30 2011 Moderator

Yes, I would definitely say that the soy content in inks would meet the rapidly renewableTerm describing a natural material that is grown and harvested on a relatively short-rotation cycle (defined by the LEED rating system to be ten years or less). definition. I would check what percentage of the ink is actual soy content. (And I'm curious what the answer is if you find out.)

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Simon .S
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FSC Certified Tissue Paper

While the sustainable purchase of tissue paper is addressed in IEQc3.3, the IEQc3.3 sustainable tissue paper criteria does not include FSCIndependent, third-party verification that forest products are produced and sold based on a set of criteria for forest management and chain-of-custody controls developed by the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC), an international nonprofit organization. FSC criteria for certifying forests around the world address forest management, legal issues, indigenous rights, labor rights, multiple benefits, and environmental impacts., but Green Seal and Environmental Choice. Although MRc1 mostly focuses on stationary supplies, could "FSC-certified paper products" as stated in the reference guide include FSC-certified tissue papers?

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Megan Meiklejohn Sustainability Project Manager, Healthy Buildings Aug 17 2011 Guest Expert 42 Thumbs Up

Jason, toilet tissue is addressed specifically in IEQc3.3 and cannot be documented in MR. The reference guide indicates that recycled content and the manufacturing of toilet tissue are the important issues here. The criteria for the tissue to meet are the EPA Comprehensive Procurement Guidelines, Green Seal GS-01 (both of which address minimum recycled content of the paper), or Environmental Choice CCD-028, which addresses the methods and chemicals used in the manufacturing and processing of the tissue. Another requirement for the product to be certified to the Environmental Choice standard is "use only pulp derived from forests that may be demonstrated to be managed under a corporate code of sustainable forest practices." Perhaps your tissue paper has multiple certifications?

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Emily Curley Sustainability Coordinator American University
Jul 01 2011
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Energy Star and EPEAT Counting Twice?

In the calculator provided here there is the option to mark the electronic equipment as Energy Star rated AND EPEAT-rated. I don't see EPEAT mentioned as a multiplier in the resource guide and I believe all EPEAT electronics have to be Energy Star rated. My question is - would a computer that is Energy Star AND EPEAT rated count twice ($200 x 1+1)?

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Barry Giles USGBC LEED Faculty, LEED AP O+M, CEO, BuildingWise LLC Jul 01 2011 Guest Expert 365 Thumbs Up

Well you could try Emily but I doubt it will fly. Also you can't double count by adding it to MRc1 and then again in MRc2...but I do have to say it sounds a great idea.

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Shin-Ja Kammann
Jun 16 2011
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Purchase Tracking

The LEED certified building that I work in is a sports arena. The massive variety and quantity of our purchases, especially in ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories. and food & beverage products is mindboggling. Are we required to track each individual item puchased? Or can we lump all non-sustainable purchases into one category, all regionally sustainable purchases in another and then track individual line items of suppliers that do not fall wholly into on category or the other? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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Barry Giles USGBC LEED Faculty, LEED AP O+M, CEO, BuildingWise LLC Jun 17 2011 Guest Expert 365 Thumbs Up

In an average building we would normally write down each item and provide the backup documentation to show that the purchase meets the requirements of LEED, however in your case start with the suppliers. Have them take the 90 days of purchases and lump the together (example would be copy paper, while the sports arena may well be taking a 2 tonne delivery of copy paper every third day have the supplier corrallate the purchases for the 90 days...that could be 20 tonnes of type x paper delivered, type x paper satisfies the LEED requirements, etc, etc...I know Office Depot will do this as I am sure Staples and others will)
However to get the % numbers required for LEED then you will have to show all the non-compliant numbers as well. As to the food question...really you will have to show all the food purchases, those that meet the requirements and those that don't...again try the suppliers (but is it REALLY worth for one point to do all of that..the cost benefit ratio doesn't compute!!!) You have taken on a major job with this arena...good luck

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Jessica Bruscato
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Sustainable Purchasing

I am interested in pursuing LEED EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. certification for an existing convention center. This building is connected to a hotel, which provides the convention center with all of its catering service needs. May the items purchased by the hotel for the convention center(i.e. food, glassware, etc) be claimed under the Materials & Resources Credits MRc1 & MRc5 for the sustainable purchasing of ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories. and food?

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Barry Giles USGBC LEED Faculty, LEED AP O+M, CEO, BuildingWise LLC Jun 17 2011 Guest Expert 365 Thumbs Up

Food. Are you able to exactly quantify the food items that get created in the hotel and used in the convention centre, against those that get created in the hotel and used in the hotel through out the performance period and be able to prove that with sufficient documentation to satisfy the GBCI??? About the only way I can see that working is if the catering department in the hotel was 100% LEED compliant....provable. (This is a tremendous amount of work for one point)

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Austin Evans Temporary Worker Scroll Compressors LLC
Jun 09 2011
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Paper with no recycled Content

Currently the paper supply that is used in the facility is from a Contract that Corporate has with Staples for copy paper. The copy paper cotnains no recycled in it and a large amount of money is spent on this product. Corporate just ersigned the contract with Staples for another 2 years so we will have to receive that type of copy paper from staples due to the fact that we are included on the contract. I was wondering if this would be an exemption case since we at the facility here do not have any control over the situtation and are stuck with this paper for 2 years. If it doesn't count as an exemption case is there any other way to get around this problem?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jun 09 2011 Moderator

Austin, I think one of the purposes of LEED is to make a positive influence in just this kind of situation. Ideally there is an organizational commitment to LEED and sustainability, and that commitment comes to bear on contract decisions like this one.

I think the best solution is to renegotiate the contract. Staples sells plenty of cost-effective recycled-content paper.

Short of that, you can elect not to pursue this credit or you can rely on other purchases to hit your threshold.

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JOHN COOK Campus Sustainability Coordinator University of California Riverside
May 02 2011
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Dormitory Tracking

I am working on a university dormitory with 500 students living there. It would be almost impossible to track all of their purchases. However there are public spaces, bathrooms, offices and a store that is under management control and we would like to pursue this credit for those spaces. Is it acceptable to exclude the students and implement sustainable purchasing for rest of the building to achieve this credit?

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Coleen Collins May 02 2011 Guest 43 Thumbs Up

LEED CI, when applied in office situations does not require tracking user purchases ( or at least we haven't been dinged for it). EB and CI are focused on building/space operations not the actions of individuals. Must an auto plant track the steel in all the vehicles being made? It's all pass-thru, not fundamental to building operations. Must you track thehe recycled fabric in the children's clothing in a school project? I suggest the following questions to ask:
1. Is the material in question fundamental to building operations?
2. Is the material purchased by the building operator or for the building operators? e.g. vendor purchased paper towels should be counted

e.g. A factory manufactures fluorescent lamp fixtures, and uses similar fixtures to light the factory floor. Here I think one tracks the product used to light the factory floor, not the product produced.

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Coleen Collins May 02 2011 Guest 43 Thumbs Up

A company with 27 facilities throughout the country does central purchasing. The foods are allocated to locations upon request -- very difficult to track. Assuming all facilities are similar -- all office facilities, can we prorate based on square footage?

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC May 25 2011 Guest Expert 3039 Thumbs Up

A great question Kevin, and one USGBC/GBCI has not firmly answered to date. Your situation is similar to a campus environment, where purchasing is spread over multiple buildings. Current guidance suggests that purchasing must be tracked on a building-specific basis for compliance, but it is not definitive on that subject. Your choices are either to submit for a formal interpretation on the subject or to submit your company-wide data and make your case. I can imagine compelling arguments on either side of this one, particularly as your facilities are distributed nationally. One thought I have is that I wonder if it is more logical to prorate food purchases based on a per occupant basis rather than square footage? Sorry I can't offer more certainty on this one - you are among a large group of folks hoping for more clarity on this kind of issue.

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Jennifer Fitts Administrative Services Manager Fuss & O'Neill
Mar 29 2011
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Wide Format Paper - business required, no recycled options??

Our business uses large/wide format printing for design plans quite a bit and the paper has accounted for a large portion of our purchasing.
I've gone to our vendors to see about recycled content product, but it just isn't available.
Is there exception at all for needing to purchase product that would normally fall under a typical category but doesn't have a sustainable option for the specific product being used?
I'm 9 percentage points away from this credit because of this and I'll be so disappointed if we don't make it....

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Mar 29 2011 Guest Expert 4563 Thumbs Up

You might try looking into FSCIndependent, third-party verification that forest products are produced and sold based on a set of criteria for forest management and chain-of-custody controls developed by the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC), an international nonprofit organization. FSC criteria for certifying forests around the world address forest management, legal issues, indigenous rights, labor rights, multiple benefits, and environmental impacts. certified wide-format paper:
http://www.fscus.org/paper/
and use the link to find the lists of certified papers and manufacturers. Some of these have recycled content as well. There can be a fuzzy area between products that aren't "available" or "known to be available." In some markets, we've seen printing companies competing with each other to be more "sustainable" by providing wide-format recycled paper, FSC paper, picking up used tubes, cartridges, etc.

Since one of the main goals of LEED is market transformation, they're unlikely to grant an exception based on a vendor's claim it's not available, but that does but some of the burden on individual project teams to push for things like this. That's one way a local chapter of the USGBC or a local LEED user group can be very helpful - putting out the call for a particular product and showing there's real demand for it.

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Samantha Longshore Certification Analyst Transwestern
Mar 09 2011
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MRc1 File Uploads Question

In the file uploads page for MRc1, one of the uploads has this description:

"Upload the calculations and rationale establishing the appropriateness and robustness of the single largest purchase estimate for each tenant for which the project team has estimated costs. In the rationale; indicate that when estimates are uncertain; the calculations were made conservatively."

However, there isn't a place on the LEED template that prompts you to upload this, such as with the documentation for ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories. purchased which explains it and then has a button for uploading. It doesn't say optional, but does anyone know if something needs to be uploaded here and if so, what that should be?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Mar 11 2011 Moderator

Samantha, I am curious about this issue, but I don't see what you're seeing. Can you be more specific about where you're seeing this? What is the number associated with the upload?

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Samantha Longshore Certification Analyst, Transwestern Mar 14 2011 Member 118 Thumbs Up

When submitting a project on LEED online, in the MRc1 file uploads tab, it is the 3rd upload option out of the list of four on that page. Two above it are optional and the upload below it is for product documentation. There is no number associated with the upload which is why I'm a little confused about it as well.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Mar 25 2011 Moderator

Samantha, I am confused... I only see one upload under MRc1 (see image below). Is it possible you're looking at a "Beta" page?

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Geoffrey Tomlinson Vaha Sustainable Energy
Mar 03 2011
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Cut Sheets

I am having difficulties in finding cut sheets for toners and other items that show the sustainability criteria.

1) Would It be acceptable to have the toner manufacturer write a letter stating that the respective toners were remanufactured?

2) Are general claims acceptable. For example, a toner website claims that the average post-consumerWaste material generated by households or by commercial, industrial and institutional facilities in their role as end-users of the product, which can no longer be used for its intended purpose. This includes returns of materials from the distribution chain (source: ISO 14021). Examples of this category include construction and demolition debris, materials collected through curbside and drop-off recycling programs, broken pallets (if from a pallet refurbishing company, not a pallet-making company), discarded products (e.g., furniture, cabinetry and decking) and urban maintenance waste (e.g., leaves, grass clippings, tree trimmings, etc.). content of all its products is 90%.

3) Would it be acceptable to print off product information sheets off of a website to show sustainability criteria is met? For example, Staples has many products that show the post-consumer content under product details.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Mar 09 2011 Moderator

Geoffrey, I would say the answers to your questions are

1) Yes.

2) No, there could be much variation.

3) Yes.

I'd appreciate input from others here.

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC Mar 14 2011 Guest Expert 3039 Thumbs Up

1). Agreed.

2). Agreed.

3). Definitely. For both 1 and 3 the key is that the manufacturer has made a public and official statement of product performance. Although a published brochure of some kind is fantastic, a signed letter or screen capture from the company website will always suffice.

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Ted Mendoza Owner Gengee LLC
Feb 23 2011
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Printing used for bldg occupants, but outsourced

I have a client that has several departments under a building that is being LEED EB-OM certified. One of the departments has a "significant" budget attributed to generating handouts, flyers, etc. that are used by employees of that department. However, the handouts are not made within the confines of the building, nor are they made with consumables (paper) that are purchased and located within the building. These documents are outsourced to a local printing press company.

Does the paper that the printing press uses need to be tracked and verified to adhere to the policy being established for the building? Does this need to be done every time they "sub out" a print job like this?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Feb 23 2011 Moderator

Ted, I would say that this printing is outside the scope of this credit. It seems to fall more under the business activity of the department, and is not related to the building. If the paper is used within the building, then it would be coverede on the waste side, but I don't see a need to cover it on the purchasing side.

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Ted Mendoza Owner, Gengee LLC Feb 24 2011 Member 72 Thumbs Up

I'm contemplating your response. If there is a separation in business activity, wouldn't all office supplies used by the department then be classified under "business activity"? I'm trying to understand the delineation between this type of consumable and others. In other words, what would then be attributed just to "the building"?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Feb 24 2011 Moderator

Ted, I think I would need more specific examples to be able to offer more thoughts. Also, my thoughts on the flyers are a bit of an educated guess—I'm unclear how the flyers are consumed by the department.

As you can gather from reading earlier discussions on this topic, there is some grey area here.

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC Feb 24 2011 Guest Expert 3039 Thumbs Up

Interesting question Ted - I would agree with Tristan. What you are purchasing, in this instance, is a finished printed product, rather than simply the 'ongoing consumable' portion of that product, the paper. One might argue its similar to buying a newspaper or magazine in that sense. But it is certainly a gray area, I agree. One other thought - if you are purchasing a large volume of printed materials, and you could switch to sustainable paper, I wonder if an Innovation Credit might be entertained? Longshot but interesting. . .

Dan

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Kimberly Frith Sustainability Consultant, exp Feb 24 2011 Member 632 Thumbs Up

Very good question - we are working on an EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. project for our own building, an AEC firm with lots of printing of project plans, marketing proposals, etc. We use a third-party printing service to manage our equipment and coordinate our large print jobs (full-size drawing sets) and I always took the stance that since we are paying them to do our printing for us (and they are in fact located inside our building), we have the ability to recommend they use sustainable paper - just like we pay our housekeeping staff to use green cleaning products.

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Ted Mendoza Owner, Gengee LLC Feb 25 2011 Member 72 Thumbs Up

Thanks everyone for your input. It has been very helpful in gaining perspective on this one. I plan to work out a stance with my client that will sit well with them. My guess is they will claim the paper volume under purchasing, and we'll get documentation from the printing press on type of paper used during performance period. Obviously, we'll eventually know whether or not it is an acceptable claim with USGBC, right? :-) Thanks again all.

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Coleen Collins
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Accounting for Process *Materials*

Hypothetical situations:
LEED EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. for a furniture manufacturer:
Paper towels for the bathrooms are "ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories.".
Tack cloths (similar to paper towels) are for used for wiping down furniture pieces about to be coated with finish. They are part of the manufacturing process, not the building operation per se. Are they "ongoing consumables"? What about the wood purchased to make the furniture?
LEED EBOM for a cleaning chemical manufacturing company.
They have a lab where they prototype new products. Are the raw materials for the prototypes to be counted in calculating % of green materials? These materials are regularly used (to make products) and replaced and are not necessarily expensive, but they are not a part of the operation of the building itself.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jan 20 2011 Moderator

Kevin, see the example in the discussion above about an aquarium.

Also, this discussion on purchases made within the building but not for the building.

Keep in mind that these credits are intended to be fairly inclusive—food for example is not about the "operation" of a building but has a lot to do with the impact of its activities.

With your examples, I would count the tack cloths and lab materials but not the wood purchases.

 

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Jessica Jones Project Consultant Sustainable Design Consulting
Dec 16 2010
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Purchases on a campus with 1 central office space

I am hoping that I can get some advice on the following scenario:

There is a campus of multi family residential housing buildings (say 5 for calculations sake), all owned by the same Property Manager, and there is an Administrative office for the Property Manager in 1 of the 5 buildings. This Adminstrative office makes all the purchases for the 5 buildings, and is the only physical space where things like ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories., furniture, food, etc are purchased and controlled by the Property Manager, since these items are associated with office usage.

Would it be feasible to allocate a percentage of these types of office purchases to each of the 5 buildings (i.e. 20% of the purchase value for each building or some percentage based on square footage of each building) for LEED EB documentation purposes? Or would it only fly if you use the office space purchases for the LEED documentation of the 1 building the office resides in (i.e. the other 4 buildings would not be able to claim any portion of these purchases because the office is physically outside of the LEED boundary for each of the 4 buildings)?

It seems strange that in a campus setting, you wouldn't be able to somehow get credit for office purchases made by the admin office (which serves all the buildings on the campus), but this is the idea we have gotten from all the LEED language we have seen to date.

Thanks for your feedback on this.

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Jason Franken Sustainability Consultant, Cannon Design Jan 10 2011 Guest Expert 2130 Thumbs Up

This is a good question, Jessica. The guidelines for campus scenarios are a little confusing. However, you should proceed with the assumption that you will only be able to claim a purchase if it is intended for use at a specific project building. If you have a portfolio of buildings on a campus that are all seeking certification, there are some credits and prerequisites for which you will be allowed to demonstrate campus-wide compliance. However, all of the purchasing credits (including IEQc3.3) will require that you illustrate compliance at the level of each individual building. So, in your case, where there is a centralized purchasing office, this is how you should approach this:
1) If the admin office buys something in bulk that is then actually used at each of the buildings on the campus, you can divide up that purchase using some type of pro-rated approach. For example, let's say each building has a common area with a coffee maker and one of the perks of living there is that the property manager provides free coffee to tenants. If the admin office bought $500 worth of organic coffee during the performance period, each building could claim $100 worth of coffee.
2) If the admin office buys something that is specifically intended to be used only by personnel in that office, those purchases cannot be shared out across the campus. For example, let's say that the admin office has a number of printers and copiers, but none of the other buildings have any sort of common space that is intended for use as a business center for tenants or property management staff. If the admin office buys $500 worth of paper during the performance period, the only building that could claim that purchase is the building that actually houses the admin office.

Now, If the property manager offered another perk by installing a computer and printer in each building's lobby for free tenant use, the situation would be very different. In that alternate example, the $500 worth of paper that was purchased by the central admin office could be divided up across each of the buildings on the campus.

The key thing to remember is that the EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. rating system is requiring you to:
a) document actual performance,
b) during the performance period,
c) inside your LEED project boundary.

The last part is the key item in a campus scenario; for the purposes of any purchasing credit, each building on the campus will have its own distinct LEED project boundary.

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Jessica Jones Project Consultant, Sustainable Design Consulting Jan 10 2011 Member 77 Thumbs Up

Jason,

Thanks for the response. I do have several follow up questions though as well as some issues with the interpretation of how LEED defines this issue (keeping in mind that there is little guidance from USGBC, and what little guidance there is tends to be confusing and often contradictory).

My first comment is that it seems with the interpretation you have listed that the intent of the purchasing credits is backwards. LEED is suppose to give credit to practices that are environmentally friendly. In this case, it appears that the way to achieve the LEED credits would be to start buying a set of products for each of the individual buildings (ex. coffee makers, printers, etc.). This seems contradictory, because buying these products is consuming more than is currently being used. Having individual products in each building means more energy usage, more natural resource usage, etc and would be somewhat wasteful. I feel we should be rewarded in the LEED system for efficient usage of materials and resources by centralizing all of these products in one office space. All of this is part of the issue I see with LEED rewarding projects for more purchases. It almost encourages consumption (which to me is one of the biggest problems facing our society today).

The next comment I have is that the USGBC has ruled that in a campus setting there are many credits that are able to be "shared" or credits can be achieved even though the physical objects or amenities aren't within the specific LEED boundary (such as parking spaces, showers, stormwater management, etc.). So why should purchasing be any different? This is an example of the contradiction within the LEED rating systems. I understand the intent of requiring things to be within the LEED boundary, but there are always exceptions, and in a campus setting, this is one case it seems unreasonable to require all purchases to be used within the LEED project boundary.

One example of a product that should count even if purchased outside the LEED boundary is office paper. The way I read your interpretation, it seems that unless the printer is housed in the building of the specific LEED project in reference, the paper purchases shouldn't count for LEED purposes. But just because the paper is printed in the office, doesn't mean that it isn't actually physically used in the other buildings. This paper is very frequently used for things like tenant notices, etc. within each of the buildings. So for these types of products it seems reasonable to allocate percentages to each building (even though the printer and office equipment is in only 1 building).

I realize that there is not much guidance for LEED EB for Multi Family at this point (as we have discovered throughout the certification process), but it would be nice to see some guidance, and guidance that is in line with the intent of LEED and consistent with other rating systems and interpretations. I realize that LEED EB is different in that it is actual performance during the performance period, but there should still be some consistency between EB and other LEED Rating Systems when appropriate.

I would appreciate your thoughts on my comments when you have a chance.

Thanks for your time.

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC Jan 11 2011 Guest Expert 3039 Thumbs Up

Jessica - You've asked some great questions and in the process illuminated a number of issues that I know USGBC is also working on/struggling with right now. Your particular project is a neat intersection of two scenarios that challenge EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems.: residential and campus. Either one has a number of unknowns; in combination you are definitely out there on the cutting edge.

Jason's response is, in my eyes, spot on. He has helpfully illustrated the flexibility that the USGBC is trying to maintain to allow for variability in building situations that necessarily differ among campuses. I will try to address your follow up points:

1. On the issue of consumption, I think you'll find that everyone at USGBC is aligned with your concern about encouraging consumption. That being said, there is simply no functional way for this tool to measure a 'lack' of consumption. Past versions of EB attempted to encompass source reduction but it quickly became clear that a project could claim to have 'source reduced' tons of material with no documentation. The USGBC's reach can only encompass guiding existing purchasing; they have to assume that the profit motive will limit unnecessary purchases beyond what is required for normal operations.

2. USGBC's fundamental orientation is the certification of individual buildings. The rating systems were not designed for campuses, firms, etc... (LEED-ND being the obvious exception). For this reason, the default position of the USGBC is that data should represent building-level performance. When doing so is somehow inadequate, inaccurate, or misrepresentative of actual circumstances (irrigation, stormwater management, and similar credits being the obvious examples), the USGBC has made formal exception to that default position. I am of the opinion that this exception should be extended to additional credits in a campus setting, particularly alternative transportation and waste diversion. But until the USGBC formally agrees, reasonable people are left to happily debate which credits should or should not be considered campus-wide vs individual building, while knowing that the USGBC starting point is building-specific data. Purchasing is a tough one on both sides of this debate, but I hope its helpful to understand the USGBC's starting point, at least philosophically.

3. Finally, to your example, I would encourage you to assume that the USGBC is less interested in drawing hard & firm lines and more interested in behavior/performance consistent with the credit intent. You have a great deal of flexibility in explaining to the reviewer how purchased materials are used in the project building, and why that use is reasonable for inclusion. The USGBC can't anticipate every permutation of materials use that takes place in a campus environment - its incumbent on projects to help the USGBC understand their practices and how those practices are consistent with the credit intent. I don't think a reviewer would have any problem with the inclusion of some $ amount for paper to each building in the example you provide (as long as it wasn't double-counted between the two buildings!).

Hope that's at least a little helpful.

Dan

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Simon .S
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Rapid Renewable Material

If our purchased paper contain rapid renewable material, which the paper fiber was took from a trees which is harvest less than 10 years. will this consider as rapid renewable resources?
the manufacturer web page claim that, Eucalyptus tree was a farmed trees which will be harvest every 4-5 years. will this work?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Nov 16 2010 Moderator

Yes, I believe so.

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Simon .S Nov 16 2010 Member 1681 Thumbs Up

Hi Tristan,
this link me to another question. i saw a comment on NCv2.2, MRC6 dated Jun 29 2010. the discussion stated that, a study made by USGBC that, no tree species meet the 10 years renewal criteria.
is there a web page whereby list of rapid renewable resources was stated and user refer to it?
Farmed trees was meant for sustainable production, through USGBC study no tree species meet renewal criteria, i not sure with our approach about farmed trees will be ok.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Nov 17 2010 Moderator

Quoting a recent MRc6 discussion:

There is no official list. Any biobasedGenerally, classification of products and materials derived from plant and animal sources as opposed to minerals. The U.S. Department of Agriculture has a program to promote the use of emerging biobased products that defines them more narrowly, to exclude products that already have established markets, such as food, animal feed, and lumber.  material that otherwise meets the requirements should be accepted. If you can get formal documentation from your supplier about the less-than-10-years cycle, than you should be OK.

When the rules were written, 10 years was picked in part to exclude any wood products, since those are covered separately under Credit 7. But that's not how the requirement was written.

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Simon .S
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50% FSC

one of the requirement that project owner can approach is to purchase product consists of 50% FSCIndependent, third-party verification that forest products are produced and sold based on a set of criteria for forest management and chain-of-custody controls developed by the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC), an international nonprofit organization. FSC criteria for certifying forests around the world address forest management, legal issues, indigenous rights, labor rights, multiple benefits, and environmental impacts. certifies paper.
i knew that FSC have 3 major standard, which is 100% FSC, Mixed FSC and recycle FSC.
Did this statement means that i need to look for product containing at least 50% Mixed FSC or 50% Recycle FSC for paper?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Nov 12 2010 Moderator

Yes, any FSCIndependent, third-party verification that forest products are produced and sold based on a set of criteria for forest management and chain-of-custody controls developed by the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC), an international nonprofit organization. FSC criteria for certifying forests around the world address forest management, legal issues, indigenous rights, labor rights, multiple benefits, and environmental impacts.-certified product at 50% or better qualifies for the credit.

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Wendy Gibson
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remanufacturered toner cartridges

I accidentally just posted a very similar question in MRc7 and Tristan tried clarify (thanks Tristan). I figured I would follow up in the correct credit...

The reference guide implies that remanufacturerd toner cartridges are an appropriate way to acheive this credit...but which sustainability criteria do they fall under? Especially if they use previously used pieces for their intended purpose as our vendor reuses toner casing, amongst other things. LEED's definition explicitly states items cannot be reused for their intended purpose.

Any clarification would be great. Tristan, maybe this helps clarify my confusion. Sorry for the wrong credit post earlier.

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Jason Franken Sustainability Consultant, Cannon Design Oct 26 2010 Guest Expert 2130 Thumbs Up

Wendy, that's a good question; the Reference Guide really isn't clear on its handling of remanufactured toner cartridges. You're correct in assuming that they wouldn't be counted as "re-used", but there's also an avoided cost if you're engaging in similar activities, such as refilling printer ink cartridges. I don't have a good answer for you at this time, but we'll look into it.

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Rashmi V Apr 12 2011 Guest 23 Thumbs Up

Hello,
Any answer to the category under which the re manufactured toner cartridges fall under? Are they under the regional material manufactured or extracted within 500 miles category?

Thanks

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Apr 23 2011 Moderator

Rashmi, I think you could make a case for them if they are remanufacturered, contain recycled content, or are regionally produced.

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Tim Trefzer Sustainable Options
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SFI vs. FSC

I am aware that USGBC has been contemplating including SFI-certified products into certain credits as not to monopolize FSCIndependent, third-party verification that forest products are produced and sold based on a set of criteria for forest management and chain-of-custody controls developed by the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC), an international nonprofit organization. FSC criteria for certifying forests around the world address forest management, legal issues, indigenous rights, labor rights, multiple benefits, and environmental impacts.-certified products in the LEED rating system. Has there been any update to this? My project is purchasing SFI-certified paper and I am hoping that this might contribute to earning this point...

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Oct 12 2010 Moderator

Tim, USGBC is actively working on this but there is no change at this point. LEEDuser is tracking this issue and we'll announce it in our e-news when a change comes through.

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Ashu Gupta Project Engineer
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Ongoing Consumable data uploading on USGBC template

I was trying to upload ongoing consumable on the LEED template. I am facing a problem, first of all I am having hundreds rows of data. I agree that if we ask USGBC it will redesign the template as suggested by other LEED users. But, it is very difficult to reduce the no. of categories of ongoing consumable. For e.g, if I am purchasing an envelope of 1$ say 100 Qty, and other envelope of 2$ of 50 Qty. Then, it is not possible for me to club the two types under a single head called "Envelope", since the rate per item is different. Because of this the no. of enteries of the items might run in thousands. As the project is for a luxury hotel. Hence, is there any way out or I simply have to keep entering the huge data?

Please advise.

Sachin Sharma

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC Aug 31 2010 Guest Expert 3039 Thumbs Up

This is not an uncommon situation and my experience has been that reviewers are comfortable if projects input summary data into the template (using averages or whatever aggregated data is necessary to make the template come up with the right outcome) as long as a complete spreadsheet is provided which a) mimics the template format and content closely and b) is formatted to allow the reviewer to confirm formulas (that is, not a PDF document). I don't think anyone benefits from an insistence on massive data transfers from your spreadsheet to the template, as long as the spreadsheet can be thoroughly reviewed.

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Lee Burns Dir of Engineering Bentall Kennedy
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Maintenance Paint

I've been asked to document our mainenance paint purchases as GS-11. I can't seem to figure out where as I'm not convinced these are "ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories.". We are not pursuing MR C1 anyway due to multi-tenant building. They don't fit in MR C1.5 either. Do we just not track our paint?

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Jason Franken Sustainability Consultant, Cannon Design Aug 30 2010 Guest Expert 2130 Thumbs Up

For LEED purposes, paints and sealants are considered base building materials, so you would track purchases under MRc3, Facility Alterations and Additions. Paint is definitely not considered an ongoing consumable.

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John Ida President Urban Works, Inc.
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Vaccuum Bags, Other Green Cleaning Supplies Purchases

Our team is pursuing both IEQc3.3 and MRc1. By definition, many green cleaning supplies such as disposable paper towels, vacuum bags, and trash liners are considered ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories.. The question is: if green cleaning supplies are ongoing consumables, do we track them in both MRc1 and IEQc3.3 purchasing templates? Or, would we only track them only in IEQc3.3 green cleaning sustainable materials and products. I assume the former would be correct. Similarly, would a vacuum cleaner would be tracked under both MRc2 for durable goodsDurable goods have a useful life of 2 years or more and are replaced infrequently or may require capital program outlays. Examples include furniture, office equipment, appliances, external power adapters, televisions, and audiovisual equipment. - electronics, AND IEQc3.4 - green cleaning sustainable equipment?

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Kristen Hum Intern, Princeton Plasma Physics Lab Aug 09 2010 Guest 25 Thumbs Up

You actually have to check off a box on the leedonline form for IEQc3.3 that states "The purchases included in the total above were omitted from any calculations for MRc1, MRc2.1, MRc2.2 or (no double-counting). Alternatively, the project team has not pursued MRc1, MRc2.1, MRc2.2."
I'm sure it would be the same for IEQc3.4.

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Tyler Lux
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Do certian credits such as MRc1 require tenant involvement?

We are working with a multi-tenant building and are in the initial stages of planning out our EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. certification process. It is unclear whether credits like MRc1 require the tenants to participate. For example will tenants have to also work to achieve sustainable purchasing of 10% postconsumer and/or 20% postindustrial material? If this is so does anyone have advice on how to work with tenants to push the new program?

Thanks,
Tyler

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jul 12 2010 Moderator

Tyler, you absolutely need tenant involvement for these credits. The credits cover all purchasing within the building.

There is some advice in our guidance above about how to succeed in multi-tenant situations. I also recommend watching this video—LEED-EBOM: Eight Steps to Success—for additional tips.

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Marian Keeler Senior Associate Simon & Associates, Inc.
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Other things that may be excluded

Following up on Wendy's question, we are working with a number of laboratory buildings and an aquarium. They purchase ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories. such as chemical reagents, aquarium salts, and fish food. There are no "green" alternatives to most of these products, at least at present, given the narrow functional requirements. To me it makes the most sense to exclude these products from both MRc1 and MRc2, but I haven't seen anything in the Reference Guide or elsewhere that establishes this as an acceptable approach. Any experience on this?

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC Jul 13 2010 Guest Expert 3039 Thumbs Up

I agree with your conclusion Marian - It doesn't seem logical to include products that are so 'process'-specific to your building's unique function, and for which the sustainability criteria identified in the rating system & reference guide are not relevant. I think you can probably exclude them in purchasing, although you may have to address them in waste. Also, I would note that you might consider fish food in light of the Sustainable Foods credit, which doesn't technically limit itself to food for human consumption!

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Wendy Gibson
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the grey area of sustainable purchases

I have a few questions that cover both MRc1 and MRc2. (1) Do we need track and include in the credit calculations purchases that do not have a green alternatives? For instance, treadmills, batteries for equipment which there is no rechargable alternative, toner for which there is no remanufacturing alternative, medical supplies (refilling first aid kits), keyboards, computer mouse, speakers...

(2) In the "birds eye view" you state that it is optional to include any items outside paper, toners, binders, and desk accessories as ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories.. Does this mean items like periodicals, medical supplies (refilling first aid kits), SWAG, and gifts can be excluded from tracking and included in the MRc1 credit calculations? Some of the comments in the "comment section" imply otherwise.

(3) Finally, what about items outside both MRc1 and MRc2 - such as wrist pads, keyboard trays, keyboards? These appear to not be covered by any LEED credit. In general, it seems that some purchases would fall outside tracking. Or is the intent to track ALL purchases and find some way to place them into either credit catagory, assuming your consistent with your placement?

thanks for your help.

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Jason Franken Sustainability Consultant, Cannon Design Jul 01 2010 Guest Expert 2130 Thumbs Up

These are good questions, Wendy. The key thing is that for any of the purchasing credits, you are required to track all purchases made during the performance period and then highlight those specific purchases which meet one or more of the LEED sustainability criteria.

It's important to understand the LEED definitions of "Ongoing ConsumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories." and "Durable GoodsDurable goods have a useful life of 2 years or more and are replaced infrequently or may require capital program outlays. Examples include furniture, office equipment, appliances, external power adapters, televisions, and audiovisual equipment." as well. Ongoing Consumables are products with a low cost per unit that are regularly used and replaced through the course of business. The LEEDUser Bird's Eye View for this credit does not mean to suggest that it is optional to track items other than paper, toner, binders, etc.; these are simply the basic categories of ongoing consumables that must be tracked at a minimum. There are many other types of ongoing consumables that are used on a regular basis in most commercial buildings that should be included in your tracking.

Durable Goods are products that are available at a higher cost per unit and that are replaced infrequently and/or may require capital outlays. The simplest way to think about these types of products is to examine purchases of electronic equipment (including appliances) and furniture.

So, to address your specific questions above:
1) items such as treadmills, keyboards, computer mouse, and speakers would fall under the Durable Goods category because they are electronic equipment with a higher cost
2) items such as first aid kits, periodicals, wrist pads, and keyboard trays could probably be considered Ongoing Consumables because they are low-cost items. Batteries are also considered ongoing consumables for LEED purposes.
3) "SWAG and gifts" is a bit trickier - ideally, the purchases you're tracking for these LEED credits are items that are being purchased for use within your project building. If you're buying items for clients, you can probably exclude them; likewise, if you're receiving these items from clients or trade shows, they are not being purchased by the project team, so they may also be excluded.

In a nutshell, make sure you're tracking all items that are purchased by building management or staff that are intended for use in the project building during the performance period. Make sure you understand the sustainability criteria and use a consistent methodology to report all the products that meet those criteria .

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Wendy Gibson Jul 01 2010 Member 610 Thumbs Up

Jason - Thanks for clarifying these questions. It seems so simple on the surface and then you get into the detail and things begin to blur. One quick question for clarification, if we purchase SWAG or brochures that will be distrbuted outside the building such as a tradeshow or be given to a different department in a different building (but the purchaseing department is in the project building) can I assume these count as well? From your answer that appears be the case.

Thanks again!

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Reynaldo Castro
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Issue with Credit Template

On the LEEDONLINE website I am having issues with my Credit Template online Calculator. We have hundreds of items we are tracking, yet the credit template only allows us to add 10 rows to the calculator. Can someone please explain.

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Jason Franken Sustainability Consultant, Cannon Design May 20 2010 Guest Expert 2130 Thumbs Up

This is a known problem with this, and other, version 3 credit forms. It is definitely not the intent of USGBC to limit you to only 10 purchase types throughout your performance period. Project teams have been handling this in one of two ways:
1) If your purchases can be grouped by type (printer paper, toner, notebooks, etc.) see if you can aggregate them into 10 or fewer line items and provide a date range for the Purchase Date that encompasses the entire performance period.
2) If you cannot group your purchases in this way, provide an excel sheet that lists all purchases and all required data that is requested in the credit form. This should be viewed as a temporary solution; as a general rule, the Review Teams do not accept custom calculators, but are currently making an exception for these types of known credit form issues. Make sure to include some type of narrative stating that the Credit Form does not have enough rows to list all of your purchases.

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