EBOM 2009 MRc2: Sustainable Purchasing—Durable Goods

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    If you plan to make any purchases of durable goodsDurable goods have a useful life of 2 years or more and are replaced infrequently or may require capital program outlays. Examples include furniture, office equipment, appliances, external power adapters, televisions, and audiovisual equipment. during the performance period, you are eligible to earn this credit—there is no minimum purchasing requirement. The purchases can occur during the performance period, or up to two years prior to the end date of the performance period. If you are going to or have purchased any furniture or electric-powered equipment during that time, it may qualify for the credit criteria....

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Severin Lenel
Oct 14 2011
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ACP Regional Materials Calculator

In the new ACP Documentation Guidance for Projects outside the U.S. (October 2011) they say, you should upload the completed "ACP Regional Materials Calculator". Does anyone know where I can find this calculator?
Thank you.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Oct 26 2011 Moderator

Severin, it's located on USGBC.org under LEED Resources.

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Samantha Longshore Certification Analyst Transwestern
Sep 23 2011
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FEQ certified wood furniture

I'm looking for FSCIndependent, third-party verification that forest products are produced and sold based on a set of criteria for forest management and chain-of-custody controls developed by the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC), an international nonprofit organization. FSC criteria for certifying forests around the world address forest management, legal issues, indigenous rights, labor rights, multiple benefits, and environmental impacts.-certified patio furniture and having a bit of trouble. I ran into a comapny called "Reforest Teak" and they have furniture that is First European Quality (FEQ) grade teak. Is this possibly a cerfitication that LEED would recognize or is LEED strictly FSC?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Oct 26 2011 Moderator

Samantha, LEED is strictly FSCIndependent, third-party verification that forest products are produced and sold based on a set of criteria for forest management and chain-of-custody controls developed by the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC), an international nonprofit organization. FSC criteria for certifying forests around the world address forest management, legal issues, indigenous rights, labor rights, multiple benefits, and environmental impacts.. There has been a ton of debate about this, and thus far USGBC has been squarely behind FSC.

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Jennifer Fitts Administrative Services Manager Fuss & O'Neill
Jul 11 2011
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What qualifies to show energy star label??

We submitted for review and comments came back on our electronics portion of this credit for HP Elitebook 8450p and 2740p machines that do have energy star label. Unfortunately the cut sheets (and apparently all online documentation) only says "Energy Star qualified" or "certified" for certain models, which they deem insufficient.
Without being able to find documentation that actually says "Energy Star Labeled" for these items what will be sufficient documentation for them do you suppose?
I have a photo of one of each item with the energy star label on it but I don't think they'll take that.
The Technical Advice in the review comments states: "Please provide documentation from product manufacturers or supplieers that verifies the models purchased and that the equipment is ENERGY STAR labeled."
HP is impossible to get assistance for this with and I'm working with our vendor that we purchased them from but would like to give any direction to them possible.
Any help is appreciated.

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC Sep 01 2011 Guest Expert 2854 Thumbs Up

Actually Jennifer, I think submitting pictures along with the material you already gave GBCI, as well as a narrative explaining that you've been stonewalled by HP and struck out with the vendor, should be plenty. If that ENERGY STAR label is on the computer, and the picture makes it clear that I'm looking at the same computer you've listed in your table, that really should be enough. Good luck with it - I think you've got a strong case.

Dan

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Elliot Powers Director of Asia Business Development
Jul 04 2011
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Vendor Letter Sample/Template?

I may be mistaken, but I thought I saw in the Doc Toolkit some time ago that there was a template/sample available to send to vendors from whom our client makes purchases, and which would assist in their pursuit of the related purchasing credits. Anyone?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Sep 02 2011 Moderator

Elliot, I think the tracking form shown above in the Doc Toolkit assists in that regard. That form can be given to vendors who make purchases that they need to track.

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Geoffrey Tomlinson Vaha Sustainable Energy
May 19 2011
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Hand Dryers- Are they Considered Durable Goods?

We are purchasing hand dryers to eliminate paper waste, but since there are no EnergyStar rated hand dryers, would this count against us for our durable goodsDurable goods have a useful life of 2 years or more and are replaced infrequently or may require capital program outlays. Examples include furniture, office equipment, appliances, external power adapters, televisions, and audiovisual equipment. purchasing the performance period? I thought I had read that mechanical or electrical systems permanently attached or hard wired to the building were not counted as a durable goods purchase. For example, if we install a packaged HVAC unit on the roof, would this be counted as a durable good purchase.

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC May 26 2011 Guest Expert 2854 Thumbs Up

Agreed Geoffrey - those hand dryers would be considered mechanical equipment and excluded from EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems..

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Matthew Macko Principal Environmental Building Strategies
Apr 11 2011
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Non-Energy Star Rated Products

How do you count products that are not rated by ENERGY STAR, like microwave ovens? Can you exempt them entirely from the total cost of durable goodsDurable goods have a useful life of 2 years or more and are replaced infrequently or may require capital program outlays. Examples include furniture, office equipment, appliances, external power adapters, televisions, and audiovisual equipment.? As they cannot be ENERGY STAR rated, it seems unfair to have to count them in the total costs, but not be able to have them help a project qualify for this credit.

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Jason Franken Sustainability Consultant, Cannon Design Apr 11 2011 Guest Expert 1983 Thumbs Up

That's a good question, Matthew. At first blush, I'd say that you would be required to count the cost of those items in your overall cost of goods purchased during the performance period. It hasn't come up very often in the past, so I can't say for sure whether GBCI would agree with you if you wrote a narrative explaining why you excluded the purchase entirely. I'd say your best bet would be to send this question to GBCI's customer service via LEED Online and see what they say.

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC May 26 2011 Guest Expert 2854 Thumbs Up

This is a question that's never really been definitively answered, and I'd love to hear what GBCI says about it. Risking Jason's enduring wrath, I'll say that my take is that you can exclude them - I just don't see how there is any sustainability benefit to including a product that isn't eligible for the relevant criteria. If the intent of the credit is to promote energy efficient products, penalizing you for purchasing something with no clearly-identified alternative doesn't really benefit anyone. Better to exclude it and focus on the choices at hand. The one alternative I would recommend would be trying to research microwave ovens to see if there is a way to identify more or less efficient models. If you can document that the ovens you purchased were similar to Energy Star in terms of their performance relative to conventional microwaves, I think that would be a sure-fire winning argument. Hope that helps.
Dan

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John Kinch
Feb 25 2011
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In Kind Donations?

Hi,

I work for a non-profit attempting to get this credit, and we had an interior design company donate two very nice nearly-new chairs amounting to $700 each. Do these count towards the credit since we are technically not paying for them?

This is the environmental profile for the chairs: http://www.steelcase.com/en/company/sustainability/documents/peps/jenny%...

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Jason Franken Sustainability Consultant, Cannon Design Feb 25 2011 Guest Expert 1983 Thumbs Up

Yes, you would count these as meeting the "Salvaged Material" criteria and use the replacement value of $700 as the cost.

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Simon .S
Jan 18 2011
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Energy Star Partner Program

US EPA Energy Star has a program called, Energy Star Partner Program. Basically they have the same Energy Star program in US, and the participated partner program will run the same test method and standard to it;s local manufacturer product which interested to get their product certified.
Our local EPA is participated into this program , and i wonder, local EPA energy star rated products could contribute weight to LEED credit?
I emailed to USEPA and they mention that, is all depend on USGBC decision.
is anyone could help?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jan 20 2011 Moderator

I think this should work. However, as they said, it's up to USGBC. I would ask them if you have any doubt.

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Katie Anthony
Jan 12 2011
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Refurbished Electronics

Has anyone used refurbished IT equipment towards the sustainable purchasing requirement? Does it need to have at least 70% reused parts to meet the salvaged material requirement? Is it even possible to get that information?

Alternatively, is purchasing refurbished equipment an innovative enough strategy to pursue an IO credit?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jan 20 2011 Moderator

Katie, I'm not sure this will fly, given that "refurbished" is considered a sustainable attribute for furniture, not electronics, under the credit language. Also, could encouraging use of refurbished IT equipment encourage use of older, less-effiicient equipment?

If you think you can overcome these concerns then maybe it's worth a shot. I would problably just document that the unit is refurbished from offsite, which is something the vendor should be able to provide documentation for.

In any case, I don't think this would qualify under IOc1, since if it's going to be allowed, it's covered here. Unless you want to get more ambitious and do some kind of "comprehensive electronics impact reduction plan" that goes well beyond the idea of this credit.

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Cara Weber
Sep 13 2010
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Avoiding buying new goods?

Is there any way to make a case for an avoidance of new purchases? Can this be calculated toward this credit?

For example, If the owner repurposes some old chairs they had in storage with the intention of avoiding buying new chairs, can this be documented? What if they put new fabric or paint on something? It seems I could count the 'cost' as the cost for new fabric/painting... but it would diminish the 'avoided value' that a new chair would be.

My thought is to take the cost of an equivalent new chair and count that as a 'purchase', and say that the chair is 100% salvaged on or off-site. Does this seem like a reasonable approach?

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Jason Franken Sustainability Consultant, Cannon Design Sep 14 2010 Guest Expert 1983 Thumbs Up

This is a good question, Cara - the issue of "salvaged" furniture can be tricky within the LEED context. First off, it is possible to count salvaged furniture towards the credit threshold by determining the "replacement cost" of a comparable piece of furniture. However, your example of using chairs that had been in storage is not guaranteed to earn compliance. LEED doesn't want to encourage project teams to move old chairs from one floor of the project building to another floor and count it as salvaged. The concept of "salvaged" material makes a lot more sense in the NC context, where you can deconstruct a steel wall frame and then use the salvaged steel to create an interesting architectural feature on the newly built wall; the concept just doesn't translate as well to EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems.. The best example I can give you of a piece of furniture that would count as salvaged in EBOM is the following: picture an old chair made of conventional materials with absolutely nothing sustainable about it. It's nice, but it's old and the owner gets rid of it by donating it to an antiques store. You then go and buy this chair to be used in an office of your project building. Since it's from a resale shop, you can consider it 100% salvaged, even though when it was made in 1970, it was built using virgin materials. Make sense?

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC Sep 14 2010 Guest Expert 2854 Thumbs Up

To follow up on Jason's (absolutely accurate) comment, in my experience the most common type of LEED-compliant furniture salvage is in institutional settings where furniture, when permanently removed from a building, is placed in long-term storage and made available to other buildings within the institution. Most large universities have a warehouse where old desks, filing cabinets, etc... are kept for years at a time until a need pops up. This is in contrast, as Jason notes, to a situation where furniture is temporarily removed from a building while a renovation takes place and then returned, or alternately moved directly from one building to another. Hope that helps.

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Pablo Fortunato Suarez Principal ESD Consultant/Architect GreenArc Sustainable Building & Architecture
Jul 20 2010
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vehicles

The LEED guidebook (table 1 of MRc1 showing "ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories." and "durable goodsDurable goods have a useful life of 2 years or more and are replaced infrequently or may require capital program outlays. Examples include furniture, office equipment, appliances, external power adapters, televisions, and audiovisual equipment.") actually includes vehicles. Will purchase of electric vehicles count for this credit?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jul 24 2010 Moderator

This definitely seems like it would qualify under the electric equipment portion of this credit.

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Pablo Fortunato Suarez Principal ESD Consultant/Architect, GreenArc Sustainable Building & Architecture Aug 18 2010 Member 1264 Thumbs Up

Sorry to revert; I need to clarify a few more items:
1) Would hybrid vehicles (not purely electric vehicles) qualify for this credit?
2) Do I include conventional (gas powered) vehicles purchased within the performance period in the template for computation of total amount of purchases?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Aug 18 2010 Moderator

Pabs, if you're going to include purchased vehicles in your durable goodsDurable goods have a useful life of 2 years or more and are replaced infrequently or may require capital program outlays. Examples include furniture, office equipment, appliances, external power adapters, televisions, and audiovisual equipment. calculations, then you would have to include all vehicles purchased in your calculations, in order to show that you meet the credit threshold.

I would say you could make an argument that hybrid vehicles qualify, but because they are gasoline-powered with electric-assist, it's not a sure thing they would qualify. Might be up to the reviewer.

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G Matthew Drew
May 04 2010
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Carpet

Where does carpet fit in? Carpet isn't listed, but is certainly can be a durable good. I'm wokring on an NCv2.2 project and considering using this credit as a basis for an ID credit. We are looking into carpet that is NSF 140 Platinum certified & SCS certified.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. May 04 2010 Moderator

Have you looked at MRc3: Sustainable Purchasing—Facility Alterations and Additions? Seems like carpet is a more natural fit there, although I supposed one could argue that it's similar to furniture, a durable good, in some respects.

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Michael Chermak MS, CIH, LEED AP, Qualia CIH Inc. Aug 03 2011 Member 35 Thumbs Up

I have an EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. project review report from GBC indicating that carpet is considered a base-building item. Therefore, it cannot be included in this credit table.

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Reynaldo Castro
Feb 04 2010
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Desk Lamps

When buying desk lamps, would having Energy Star rated light bulbs be sufficient enough? Or do the actual lamps have to be Energy Star rated?

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Jenny Carney Principal, YRG sustainability Feb 06 2010 Guest Expert 2468 Thumbs Up

Hi Reynaldo, lamp purchases (the actual bulbs) are dealt with separately under the Reduced Mercury in Lighting credit. According to the Energy Star web site, labeled desk lamps are available, and my opinion is that you would need a label on the actual fixture in order to claim compliance with the criteria for this credit. The bulbs don't really factor into this credit at all.

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D. G.
Jan 21 2010
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What about leased products?

Many companies lease their computers - how do leased durable goodsDurable goods have a useful life of 2 years or more and are replaced infrequently or may require capital program outlays. Examples include furniture, office equipment, appliances, external power adapters, televisions, and audiovisual equipment. fit in with MRc2?

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Jenny Carney Principal, YRG sustainability Feb 06 2010 Guest Expert 2468 Thumbs Up

In past projects, teams have successfully incorporated leased goods into their purchase calculations by including any costs associated with the lease that were incurred during the performance period. So, if you pay upfront for the entire lease period and that payment also falls in the performance period, you include it all. Or, if you make regular payments on the lease (say monthly), you would include the amount for associated with the months of the performance period.

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Jeff Benavides Project Manager, ecoPreserve: Building Sustainability Jan 07 2011 Member 390 Thumbs Up

Now how would this compare to the solid waste end of this question? End of use for leased computers. can you just document that you lease equipment therefore not able to influence what happens to it at the end of its use?

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Jason Franken Sustainability Consultant, Cannon Design Jan 07 2011 Guest Expert 1983 Thumbs Up

Nope, when you return leased computers to the manufacturer at the end of the lease, you can claim that as a form of recycling and include the replacement cost of the equipment in your calculations for MRc8.

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC Jan 11 2011 Guest Expert 2854 Thumbs Up

I've always felt a little strange about this. It seems to me that the nature of leasing is such that it absolves the project of responsibility for disposal - I'm not sure that is something EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. should be rewarding/encouraging. If the options are allowing inclusion of $X of leased computers as 'recycled' even though those computers may end up in landfills vs simply excluding leased equipment from the calculation (as they are not technically a 'purchase' this seems quite reasonable), I think the latter is more consistent with credit intent.

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Jason Franken Sustainability Consultant, Cannon Design Jan 12 2011 Guest Expert 1983 Thumbs Up

Good point, Dan - I hope that type of revision makes its way into the 2012 language. For now though, this is viable option for project teams, even if it is a bit of a loophole.

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J J Jun 18 2011 Member 7 Thumbs Up

If a company leases all copiers and multifunction devices through a third-party vendor, and the lease agreement charges for the equipment lease and toner on a cost-per-click basis, how can project teams successfully document this for MRc2? Is tracking of leased equipment a requirement of LEED EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. under the materials and resources purchasing credits?

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