EBOM 2009 MRc8: Solid Waste Management—Durable Goods

  • EBOM_MRc8-Type3-Durable Goods Diagram
  • Putting policy into practice

    All LEED projects already have to create a solid waste management policy for durable goodsDurable goods have a useful life of 2 years or more and are replaced infrequently or may require capital program outlays. Examples include furniture, office equipment, appliances, external power adapters, televisions, and audiovisual equipment. in order to meet the prerequisite MRp2. This credit deals with the implementation of that policy.

    Durable goods include electronics, equipment, appliances, and furniture. Remember that you must classify durable goods consistently across all sustainable purchasing and solid waste management credits.

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Jason McIntyre LEED Consultant Envision Realty Services
Jan 24 2011
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Urinals and Water Closets

Any thoughts regarding recycling or salvaging urinals and water closets? According to the definition of durable goodsDurable goods have a useful life of 2 years or more and are replaced infrequently or may require capital program outlays. Examples include furniture, office equipment, appliances, external power adapters, televisions, and audiovisual equipment. (items that are replaced infrequently and/or may require capital program outlays to purchase), it would appear that urinals and water closets would meet this criteria. There is no double counting, and urinals don't fall under facility alterations since plumbing components are excluded. The project has purchased low-flow urinals, and we need to dispose of the old urinals. In this particular case, we wouldn't be attempting MRc8 otherwise, so it looks like we have nothing to lose!

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jan 25 2011 Moderator

Your logic makes sense. I'm curious how you'd be recycling or salvaging them? If they are older, inefficient models it may be counterproductive environmentally speaking to keep them in use.

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Wendy Gibson
Dec 03 2010
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Reusing items on-site

It appears from everything I've read that we can count reusing items on-site as part of this credit. Is it really as simple as having an extra used chair and giving it to someone to use or giving a used work station to new employee? Any clarification would be great.

Thanks.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 07 2010 Moderator

Yes, that's correct. It should be part of an overall plan and not just a random one-time occurrence to earn the credit.

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC Dec 08 2010 Guest Expert 2854 Thumbs Up

I think it can be that simple, but not necessarily. As Tristan notes, there's more to it than moving furniture around the office. In most instances, the reviewer is looking to see that there is an organized effort in place to store and reuse furniture over the medium or long term. So if that 'extra' chair gets pulled over from an empty cubicle, or is coming from storage while the carpet was replaced, that's not quite what the credit envisions. On the other hand, if you have a basement where you keep surplus furniture or work stations and can meet changing occupant needs without purchasing a new item, mission accomplished!

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cristian harbaugh Apr 29 2011 Guest 15 Thumbs Up

so if ia am storing funrature for a future renovation, would that count twards my recycled / salvaged costs?

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC Apr 29 2011 Guest Expert 2854 Thumbs Up

If you have old furniture you have placed in storage to be reused at at uncertain date and/or location in the future, that fits the credit intent. If, on the other hand, you remove furniture from a space as part of a renovation project with the plan to return the furniture to that space when the project is complete, that is not reuse/salvage as the credit envisions.

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Jeff Benavides Project Manager, ecoPreserve: Building Sustainability Oct 29 2011 Member 390 Thumbs Up

I can't seem to find the stipulation but just wanted to confirm that storage does not necessarily have to be at the project site. Such as a central storage center for county facilities. Thanks!

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Oct 30 2011 Moderator

Jeff, I am not away of a stipulation that the furniture would have to be stored on-site. I think a central facility would be fine.

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC Oct 31 2011 Guest Expert 2854 Thumbs Up

I can confirm Tristan's answer on this Jeff - central storage facility off-site is 100% fine.

Dan

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Walker Burttschell APM Hines
Sep 27 2010
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EP Credit

According to the 2009 reference guide an exemplary performanceIn LEED, certain credits have established thresholds beyond basic credit achievement. Meeting these thresholds can earn additional points through Innovation in Design (ID) or Innovation in Operations (IO) points. As a general rule of thumb, ID credits for exemplary performance are awarded for doubling the credit requirements and/or achieving the next incremental percentage threshold. However, this rule varies on a case by case basis, so check the credit requirements. point is not available for MRc8 (pg. 314). However, the actual credit template allows you to mark it for the extra point. And LEEDUser indicates the latter as well. There seems to be a contradiction. Thoughts?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Sep 28 2010 Moderator

Walker, check out the LEED addenda, which update the Reference Guide and note an EP pont for MRc8.

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Jonathan Weiss
Aug 27 2010
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Lab Wastes

Is there any specific language anyone has found about contaminated waste? There are some clients who dispose of durable goodsDurable goods have a useful life of 2 years or more and are replaced infrequently or may require capital program outlays. Examples include furniture, office equipment, appliances, external power adapters, televisions, and audiovisual equipment. - laboratory refrigerators, other equipment - that cannot be recycled. Is it acceptable to include a "hazardous waste" clause in the plan and calculation? Or does it need to be within the 25% non recycled or diverted?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Aug 29 2010 Moderator

I'm not aware of any language allowing an exception here, although I could see a precedent based on NC MRc1.

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Jason Franken Sustainability Consultant, Cannon Design Aug 30 2010 Guest Expert 1983 Thumbs Up

I don't believe there are exceptions for materials that are deemed hazardous waste. The intent of the credit is to increase the diversion of materials from landfill - if a facility is unable to actually divert a qualifying amount of material because of the classification of the waste, it would just mean that the project would not be able to qualify for this particular credit.

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Dan Ackerstein Principal, Ackerstein Sustainability, LLC Aug 30 2010 Guest Expert 2854 Thumbs Up

Jason makes a great point; EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. does not articulate an exception of this type. I do think, on the other hand, that one could reasonably argue that hazardous waste represents a unique, highly regulated waste stream that is outside the scope of this credit, much in the way that asbestos-containing ceiling tiles might be in a construction waste situation. The intent of the credit might be further understood as to divert a qualifying amount of eligible material in that sense. I think it may come down to your individual situation, the relative amounts of waste involved, and how you present your argument. Jason's conclusion is definitely correct and the safe model around which to plan your point projections, but I would be tempted to make your case to the reviewer if you feel strongly.

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John Beeson Chief Mystic in Resident betterENVIRONMENT, LLC
Apr 12 2010
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AHU filters?

Any thoughts on where AHU1.Air-handling units (AHUs) are mechanical indirect heating, ventilating, or air-conditioning systems in which the air is treated or handled by equipment located outside the rooms served, usually at a central location, and conveyed to and from the rooms by a fan and a system of distributing ducts. (NEEB, 1997 edition) 2.A type of heating and/or cooling distribution equipment that channels warm or cool air to different parts of a building. This process of channeling the conditioned air often involves drawing air over heating or cooling coils and forcing it from a central location through ducts or air-handling units. Air-handling units are hidden in the walls or ceilings, where they use steam or hot water to heat, or chilled water to cool the air inside the ductwork. filters belong? MRc7 or MRc8? Ongoing consumable or durable goodsDurable goods have a useful life of 2 years or more and are replaced infrequently or may require capital program outlays. Examples include furniture, office equipment, appliances, external power adapters, televisions, and audiovisual equipment.? Not the paper type.

AHU filters cannot be considered ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories., and of course do not last forever either. At some point in their life, they are exhausted and become waste. The parts can be dismantled into its basic components and then sorted for recycling.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Apr 13 2010 Moderator

I would consider them ongoing consumablesOngoing consumables have a low cost per unit and are regularly used and replaced in the course of business. Examples include paper, toner cartridges, binders, batteries, and desk accessories.. The lifespan of many filters is measured in days or months, not years, which seems to put them on the shorter-term scale. And they are a consumable product, not a "durable" one.

The important thing, as you probably know, is to make a consistent determination one way or the other.

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Andy Rhoades LEEDing Edge Consulting Jul 29 2010 Member 90 Thumbs Up

John,

After speaking to a few haulers and vendors in California, we found that there is not a method in place for recycling filters. We've been looking for a place to take used filters to be recycled. Can you please provide more information?

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John Beeson Chief Mystic in Resident, betterENVIRONMENT, LLC Aug 05 2010 Member 583 Thumbs Up

Hi Andy,
The complete composition of the filters are metal framed, plastic holding parts perpendicular to the filter (kinda' inside the frame), pleated filter cell w/ a mesh of bent wire holding the filter fabric in the direction of the air flow. Currently the project team's maintenance contractor dismantles all the AHU1.Air-handling units (AHUs) are mechanical indirect heating, ventilating, or air-conditioning systems in which the air is treated or handled by equipment located outside the rooms served, usually at a central location, and conveyed to and from the rooms by a fan and a system of distributing ducts. (NEEB, 1997 edition) 2.A type of heating and/or cooling distribution equipment that channels warm or cool air to different parts of a building. This process of channeling the conditioned air often involves drawing air over heating or cooling coils and forcing it from a central location through ducts or air-handling units. Air-handling units are hidden in the walls or ceilings, where they use steam or hot water to heat, or chilled water to cool the air inside the ductwork. filters into its basic components. These are then stored in separated boxes and then are periodically given to a waste hauler for recycling. A very dedicated team! Reminds me of doing that to carpet sample binders in the garage just yesterday to ship back to the manufacturer.

I evaluated the materials based on consistent determination within the entire project submittal rather than if the material was exactly "ongoing" vs "durable".

As a project team member, however, I would have placed them in ongoing consumable per Tristan's thoughts, though these types of filters (international project) last longer than the ones we typically think of.

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