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Red Alert on Equipment Metric Review Trend
All, we've seen a trend from the review side that we want to share so that folks can be prepared. There's been a tendency for GBCI reviewers, in the preliminary review, to require teams to use a run-time hours metric for maintenance equipment, as this is seen as the best way to evaluate the environmental impact of equipment, especially if both manual and powered strategies are used.
For some teams though, having this metric required of them during the review phase is too late, since they may not be able to reconstruct that information from the performance periods. The RG and other sources of information about the credit do not require any particular metric.
Some tips for dealing with this:
1. If you can show that all of the equipment you use qualifies as environmentally preferred in some way, it's not necessary to do all the tracking or come up with the performance period runtime hours for each equipment type.
2. Site maintenance vendors oftentimes develop bids for their contracts based on estimates of how much time they will spend each week doing each kind of activity, and might have good information to help document runtime hours.
Alternatives for Green Cleaning in Exterior-Car Washing Purpose
This is a new one for me. A building is hosting a car washing event for charity during their performance period (recent news to the LEED team). In order to keep with their Building Exterior and Hardscape Management Plan, they would have to select a car washing product that would be Eco Label or Green Seal and find it fast (the event is tomorrow). We can't seem to find a solution, but have seen plenty of Green Car Washing products out there.
Has anyone have experience with anything like this? Anyone can recommend a product (they are in California) that may be readily available that is Green Seal or Eco Logo? Or would it be ok to use one of the Green Products out there. One such example is Green Scene Car Wash Products:
http://www.simonizusa.com/business/Content/NEW_Green_Scene_Car_Wash_Prod...
Any quick thouhts on the matter would be appreciated, as they'd hate to have to cancel the event.
Thanks!
Mayra, I'm sorry that we didn't get a response to you in time for the car wash. Did the event proceed, and did you find an acceptable product?
One option would have been to do your best but not count this for the 20% minimum compliance threshold for this credit—that should hopefully leave plenty of other activities to use for compliance.
How to measure 20% compliance
I am not sure of the flexibility on this credit when it comes to performance measurement. Is it by cost of purchase for paints & sealants and the inventory of equipment or is it based on for example every time someone trims a bush by hand vs. a gas powered trimmer? Could both be used together?
By measuring different aspects (quantity, weight, volume, cost and time) of the management practice (maintenance equipment, paints & sealants, etc…) you can get very different numbers. I wish to meet the intent and leave the reviewers not asking any questions. My plan was to measure by cost the amount of environmentally sensitive equipment and outdoor cleaning products and paint we use. In a question below, you said it was ok to say that “if one of your 5 pieces of landscaping equipment is a mulching mower, you're good for that section.” I’m fine with doing this comparison if it works but if I’m comparing leaf blowers to mulching mowers it’s like comparing apples to oranges. If you don’t mind providing me the best accepted performance measurement for each of the criteria that would be most appreciated, and if there is any supporting documentation that should be uploaded other than the plan.
The best performance metric is different for maintenance equipment than from the other areas (cleaning products, paints, and deicer). For maintenance equipment, your best bet is to use a metric like equipment run-time hours or frequency of use. So your plan might say something like, the goal is to use environmentally preferred maintenance equipment 80% of the time based on the total equipment run-time hours.
For the other areas, the most typical performance metric is the total cost of applicable products used. An example being 75% of deicer was environmentally preferred based on the total cost of all deicer used during the performance period.
Note for maintenance equipment that using a metric like the number of compliant pieces of equipment may work but only in situations where you are not counting manually powered items like brooms, rakes, etc. Run-time hours is the safer bet.
EBOM Registered Project Tools website?
The Ref Guide (top page 11) states that "The management plan must adhere to the plan model on the LEED for Existing Buildings:O&M Registered Project Tools website." Does anyone know where or what this website is?
At the bottom of pg. 12 it says "Please see USGBC's LEED Registered Project Tools (http://www.usgbc.org/projecttools) for additional resources and technical information
http://www.usgbc.org/DisplayPage.aspx?CMSPageID=75
Exterior traffic paint
Has anyone found an exterior traffice paint for hardscape that meets LEED requirements for VOCs1. Volatile organic compounds (VOCs) are carbon compounds that participate in atmospheric photochemical reactions (excluding carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, carbonic acid, metallic carbides and carbonates, and ammonium carbonate). The compounds vaporize (become a gas) at normal room temperatures. 2. A molecule containing one or more carbon atoms that tends to evaporate (volatilize) into the air at typical ambient conditions. Some legal definitions of VOCs are restricted to those that react with sunlight to generate smog. Some VOCs are carcinogens, suspected carcinogens, or known irritants at typical levels.? Many paints that I have found have extremely high VOCs and I haven't found anything on Green Seal. I know that there is some wiggle room for noncompliant products, but I was wondering if there is a good alternative out there
Look for products marketed as meeting CALGreen requirements. CALGreen incorporates the CARBThe California Air Resources Board, part of the state government, is charged with maintaining clean air. This agency is unique at the state level: California was the only state that had such an agency before the passage of the federal Clean Air Act, and was allowed to keep it. 2007 Suggested Control Measure for Architectural Coatings by reference. The Traffic Marking Coating category limit is 100 g/L.
There are benefits and drawbacks to this approach. Benefits first:
1. This should be a shortcut to identifying a low VOC coating.
2. The CARB SCM category limits are based on technologies that will work in any climate condition in the state.
Drawbacks:
1. You are unlikely to find a product that is marketed for conformance to the VOC limits and chemical limitations in GS-11. The 2010 edition of GS-11 is somewhat nebulous on which product categories it is supposed to cover.
2. There are only 25 or so products currently listed as GS-11 certified. Given that the CARB SCM includes 42 distinct coatings categories, there would seem to be a coverage gap.
3. Until the CARB SCM finishes migrating to northeastern state regulations and IGCC jurisdictional adoptions, you will likely have to import CARB compliant coatings from California.
And here is the big one: The sample MRc3 calculation from the EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. Reference Guide as listed here in LEEDUser references GS-11, not any of the VOC limits utilized in IEQ credit language elsewhere in LEED BDC. I'm not clear on whether use of anything besides a GS-11 compliant coating would help you with SSc2. I searched all 2009 EBOM MR and SS interpretations and addenda and did not find any addressing this subject.
Does anyone have better information on the coatings requirements for SSc2 and MRc3?
Disclosure: I work for a coatings manufacturer. We do not market exterior traffic coatings, but I'm sure I'll encounter this topic as it relates to concrete and masonry coatings and stains.
Paints and Sealants on 'Building Exterior' ...Parking lot?
To maintain this credit, would products used for parking lot striping and sealing need to comply with SCAQMD RULE 1168 for VOC limits (GS-11)?
Thanks!
Ryan, that's correct. The earlier post on this forum by Jenny identifies the specific VOC limit.
Which standards should dish soap for windows meet?
I'm confused as to what standard our window washing contractors should meet for their cleaning products. They prefer to use dishwashing soap on the windows of our atrium because the sun causes other window washing materials to streak. Should the dish soap meet the standards for glass cleaning (Green Seal 37) or for hard surface cleaning (Environmental Choice CCD 146) as indicated in IEQ 3.3? Or would it be acceptable if it just met one or the other?
Hi Emma, I think one or the other would probably fly, but it seems like glass cleaning is more directly pertinent.
Agreed that one or the other should do the trick. Generally, dish soap would be more likely to carry the CCD designation. I've only seen products actually marketed as glass cleaners as GS certified, not dish soaps that are incidentally used as glass cleaners.
80% adoption for CaGBC users
Note to any CaGBC users: CaGBC doesn't mention a 20% minimum anywhere in SS c2. It mentions demonstration that best practices were used to a "significant degree...at least 80% of the time." I've assumed this must be the minor change indicated at the beginning of the reference manual in the 2009 EB:O&M USGBC vs. CaGBC table.
Exterior paint VOC limits
Is there a chart available that lists allowable VOC limits for exterior paints and primers?
Darin, the VOC limits here are based on those required for MRc3.
All...a little trick about the MRc3 GS-11 chart in the Reference Fuide: it only lists the interior paint VOC requirements, which might lead you to believe that standard doesn't apply to SSc3. If you go directly to the GS-11 standard though, it has the following listed for exterior paints:
Non-flat - 200 g/L of product minus water
Flat - 100 g/L of product minus water
We'll try to get a revised plan template posted soon that includes these exterior paint limits.
LEEDuser's management plan template for this credit has now been updated to reflect the change described by Jenny.
Environmentally friendly deicing products
The language for SSc2 on deicers is somewhat vague. It simply states that you should use "less environmentally disruptive deicing chemicals, such as magnesium chloride, potassium acetate and potassium chloride, for small areas..." but doesn't say which products are strictly not permitted or should be used for large areas, such as parking lots. Would a sodium chloride product with a sugar-beet or corn-based accelerator that reduces overall salt usage be considered less environmentally disruptive? Would its use qualify for this credit? The LEED reference guide references the MN Winter Parking Lot & SIdewalk Maintenance Manual which does reference these types of deicing products as increasing performance to reduce application rates. However, it also states that impacts are serious but not as long lasting as chlorides. In fact, no product options seems like a clear cut winner. Any thoughts?
I don't have a direct answer to your question, but I do recommend reading our guide to environmentally friendly deicing—link at the top right of this page. I would put an emphasis on the practice, not on the product—a point that is fairly basic but pretty key.
Thanks, Tristan. I will take a look at the guide. And emphasis on practice does make sense.
hardscape maintenance
we don't currently powerwash any of the hardscape, would our current practice, in you opinion meet requirements for this credit?
If you are not powerwashing the hardscape, that would definitely show that you are conserving water. If you're not washing the hardscape at all, and only using manual methods like brooms, that would show that you also are not using any chemical cleansers. It's not good enough to show that you use whatever the standard industry practice is - you need to demonstrate that you go above and beyond and use the environmentally preferable technique.
maintenance equipment
I just wanted to clarify the requirements of the maintenance equipment because looking at the template is confusing me. Do I meet requirements if I have five pieces of equipment and one of those pieces is a mulching lawn mower, so technically 20% of the equipment I use meets one of the criteria. Or do I have to have 20% that is electric powered, 20% that uses low-smoke oil and 20% mulching?
You have to demonstrate that each distinct aspect of your plan was implemented at least 20% of the time during the performance period. So, if one of your 5 pieces of landscaping equipment is a mulching mower, you're good for that section. However, you would still need to show at least 20% implementation for de-icers, window washing, etc.
I understand I need to show compliance in the other sections, I was just confused about the maintenance equipment in particular. On the template, the table under performance metrics lists "uses electric power", "mulching mower" and "low smoke oil" under the maintenance equipment column. Under the implementaion target column for these items it says under each of these "include site-specific targets, no lower than 20%". The way it reads it seems like I have to have 20% of my equipment use electric power, 20% of my equipment be mulching mowers and 20% of my equipment use low-smoke oil.
Nope - you just have to meet a minimum target of 20% of the aggregate collection of equipment.
ok, thanks Jason.
performance period
There were exterior and hardscape management procedures in practice in the past which are LEED compliant. A structure (covered walkway) was constructed recently and a new policy, which covers procedures for the new covered walkway was crafted but included past practices (for exterior and hardscape). This was done very recently. As such the minimum performance period (3 months) may not be completed from the date of effectivity of this new policy. However, in the new policy, the original documents of the LEED compliant practices are referenced.
Will this be acceptable to LEED? If so, under what circumstances?
The credit requires you have the management plan in place. I think it shoudl be okay if a compliant plan is changed when new circumstances, like a new covered walkway, require it to.
What to report
The LEEDonline form for this credit does not specifically ask for information to be reported from the Performance Period like say SSc8 does. Is the intent to report the significant environmental benefits for both the Performance Period and the Plan, or to just report on the Plan in general-- unless the form specially asks for performance period metrics Thanks for clarifying, John
Good question, John. The intent is to show that your Plan will result in implementation of environmentally preferable practices for the long term. You do not need to provide specific performance period data, like number of times the windows were washed or how often you painted the exterior. However, the Plan should clearly show that the environmentally preferable practices were used at least 20% of the time during the performance period. You can do so in the "Performance Metrics" section of your document by stating your goal for each management task/activity and indicating the level of adoption during the performance period (i.e. Magnesium Chloride used as de-icing agent 100% of the time). The reviewer is going to want to know that you not only have a compliant plan, but also that it was in place and being observed throughout the entire performance period.
A sample template showing how we recommend setting up the metrics Jason discusses is provided in the Documentation Toolkit, above.
CUTSHEETS FOR PRODUCTS
For all the equipment or products which qualify as best management practices (paints ,cleaning equipment etc) and are highlighted in the plan,do we need to provide cut sheets for the submission?
No, you are not required to provide any manufacturer documentation along with the finished Plan for SSc2, although you may do so if you would like to highlight that you are using compliant products at least 20% of the time.
What should be shown and
What should be shown and highlighted in the site plan that needs to be posted for this credit? Can and should the same site plan be used for all sustainable sites credits?
Kevin, this is one of those situations where the submittal requirement doesn't have a whole lot of bearing on the actual level of operational performance at the project building. This requirement to upload a site plan was added in v2009 to create continuity between the SS credits, but isn't really relevant to the key criteria for SSc2. If you are using a site plan to highlight features for other SS credits (SSc5, SSc6, SSc7, or SSc8), feel free to use the same file here. However, you may also provide separate versions of the site plan for those individual credits in order to clearly show the information that is appropriate for the corresponding credit. For example, landscaping strategies may be clearly highlighted for SSc5, but a different version of the file might be used to clearly illustrate location of parking structures for SSc7.1.
Another question on 20% min
Lauren, thanks for your comments above on the 20% adoption criteria. That said, it still seems that achieving and documenting anything less than complete adoption quickly gets into a big grey area. Let’s say my landscape crew is using some equipment that is low-impact and some that is not. To meet the 20% min criteria, do I consider every piece of equipment the crew uses? Do rakes, brooms, shovels and manual clippers all count toward low impact, while the gas-powered blower does not? Do I count up all the equipment in their vehicle to show that more than 20% of it satisfies the criteria?
The ref manual lists “maintenance equipment” as one of the five operational elements to consider in the plan. But other vendors use equipment besides the landscape crew. Do I evaluate each vendor individually to ensure they meet the 20% criteria or do I aggregate them? Landscape vendor: 5 pieces yes, 1 no; Building exterior cleaner: 1 piece yes, 3 no; and so on? Could one vendor, not meeting the 20% min for maintenance equipment, throw the whole effort into the bin? Or could the good work of my landscape crew make up for the fact that the building exterior cleaner is just plain dirty?
Although the credit language and some of the discussion around this credit references equipment, I think the key point to answer your question, Matt, is that it's really about "best management practices," in the words of the credit language.
Even in places where the credit requirements suggest a focus on equipment or certain products or chemicals, it's doing this as a proxy for the extent to which those products were implemented in practice.
Focus on the percentage of time or instances that best practices were implemented. Use equipment or product inventories as a way to gauge that, but not as a substitute. I would agree with you that documenting a specific percentage improvement is tricky, and that complete compliance would be a good goal, or at least complying beyond 20%, and by a big threshold, to remove issues of vagueness or error.
Could you explain how to use the performance metric for the maintenance equipment. It would be helpful if you could give an example. Thank you.
Rachel,
For maintenance equipment, at least 20% of the associated practices should qualify as best management practices. For example, if you can demonstrate that out of 5 pieces of powered maintenance equipment (mowers, trimmers, leaf blowers, etc.) at least 1 is environmentally preferable (e.g., low decibal and electric), your equipment program complies with the credit requirements. Alternatively, if you do not have access to environmentally preferable equipment, you can demonstrate compliance by showing that at least 20% of the activities (e.g., hedge and tree pruning) that were taken care of using powered equipment are now done manually.
I think the confusion here
I think the confusion here comes from the version of LEED. EB OM '08 (v2) does not have that 20% threshold where GB OM '09 (v3) does.....(unless I have missed that in the v2 Ref. Guide..!)
20% Adoption as a Minimum
I can't find anywhere that the USGBC stipulates 20% adoption as a minimum. Would you direct me to your source so that I can add such language to our Plan if it indeed is a USGBC mandate?
Incremental improvement (i.e., a minimum 20% adoption of environmental best practices) is discussed on pages 11-12 of the LEED Reference Guide for Green Buildings Operations & Maintenance. Make sure to add language around the extent to which best management practices are used at the project building and how implementation will be measured.
Maintenance equipment powered by natural gas
Would equipment powered by natural gas qualify in lieu of electric-powered equipment, given emissions reduction over conventional gas powered equipment?
To meet the credit requirements, you must demonstrate that environmental best practices, such as the use of electric equipment or manual maintenance practices, are in place for at least 20% of the maintenance activities at the project building (and were implemented at least 20% of the time during the performance period).
If there is a specific type of equipment used at the project building that is not available with electric power, quantify the environmental benefits of using natural gas and demonstrate that other environmental best practices (including manual labor and low-decibal equipment) are in place at the project building. To see how to document such incremental adoption, you can check out the table on page 3 of the Building Exterior and Hardscape Management Plan Template in the Documentation Toolkit.
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