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David Tompos President NTA, Inc.
Jan 30 2012
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Roof Area definition

The definition for roof areaRoof area is the area of the uppermost surface of the building which covers enclosed Gross Floor Area, as measured when projected onto a flat, horizontal surface (i.e. as seen in Roof Plan view). ‘Roofs’, or portions of roofs, covering unenclosed areas (e.g. roofs over porches and open covered parking structures) are not included in the areas used to evaluate compliance with SSc7.2, though they may be applicable to SSc7.1. indicates that only the roof area directly above the Gross Square FootageSum of the floor areas of the spaces within the building including basements, mezzanine and intermediate-floored tiers, and penthouses with headroom height of 7.5 ft or greater. It is measured from the exterior faces of exterior walls or from the centerline of walls separating buildings, but excluding covered walkways, open roofed-over areas, porches and similar spaces, pipe trenches, exterior terraces or steps, chimneys, roof overhangs, and similar features. should be used for the Option 1 - 75% calculation. However, on our project site, there is a maintenance/stoarge building. It is not connected to the project building, has no occupants, no plumbing or HVAC units. It is enclosed (walls, doors etc). Do we need to consider this other building's roof area (above its Gross Square footage) in the Option 1 compliance path? It appears that it should not be included in the Option 1 copmliance path calculation, but can anyone confirm that it doesn't apply?

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Angelica Ciranni Project Development Specialist Sports & Exhibition Authority of Pittsburgh
Aug 03 2011
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Problems with LEED Online Form for Option 3

Our project building roof has a combination of high-pitch high-SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100. material, low-pitch high-SRI material, and vegetated roof. We're therefore following Option 3, and by using the weighted average formula given in the Reference Guide we get a weighted average of ~250%, which seems reasonable given the high-pitch high-SRI material. However, when we enter the same information into the LEED Online form (with Option 3 selected), the calculator comes up with 57 million percent. That seems a little less reasonable!

All the calculations in the form up to that point match with our data. If we select Option 1, the calculator works fine. However, if we select Option 3 but don't enter the vegetated roof, or the high-pitch high-SRI, the calculator still comes up with a multi-million percentage. This leads us to think there might be a problem with the form for Option 3, but it seems impossible to know where this strange number is coming from.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Is there an extra calculation step which we may be missing?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Sep 02 2011 Moderator

Angelica, I haven't seen this problem. It sounds like there could be a math error embedded in the form. I would send an email to GBCI about it, but I would otherwise proceed with submitting the form for the credit.

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Mauricio Ramirez
Jul 06 2011
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Floated tile paving and Heat Island Effect

I have a building that has in the most part of their roof, a floating tile paving, that creates an air-chamber between the slab of the roof and the tilies of the paving. Is it considered a cool roof strategy valid for LEED in this Credit?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Sep 02 2011 Moderator

Mauricio, this strategy is not a "preapproved" strategy for this credit, which is not to say that it wouldn't work. I would encourage you to submit documentation showing how effective it will be, but I would not count on earning the credit in this way.

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Andy Rhoades LEEDing Edge Consulting
Apr 29 2011
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Helipad

Would a helipad be considered as an exclusion in the square footage count, similar to the mechanical equipment or solar panel?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. May 24 2011 Moderator

I wouldn't see a helipad meeting this standard. Seems like it could easily have a reflective coating, anyway?

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Andy Rhoades LEEDing Edge Consulting Aug 24 2011 Member 90 Thumbs Up

It has a Sherman Williams white coating, but the paint is not tested, and the company is not about to go test it either. Do you think the white coating would pass regardless? It's been there for years now.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Sep 02 2011 Moderator

Andy, I doubt it. You would be expected to get the paint tested by sending a sample to the lab. That is the standard approach for this credit, even if it can be a pain.

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Andy Rhoades LEEDing Edge Consulting Nov 10 2011 Member 90 Thumbs Up

We should get at least 1 point without excluding the helipad, but could get 2 if they were to exclude it (as a backup IO pt.) We'll keep you posted on the outcome.

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Matthew Perna Architect CMA
Dec 30 2010
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Roof with solar panels

Does anyone know why a roof covered with solar panels wouldn't apply to credit 7.2: Heat Island Reduction--Roof? The USGBC allows it to be used toward credit 7.1 where a roof with solar panels is used to shade a parking area, but not toward 7.2.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 30 2010 Moderator

Solar panels do help you with SSc7.2, in the sense that they are considered appurtenances and are not counted as part of your roof areaRoof area is the area of the uppermost surface of the building which covers enclosed Gross Floor Area, as measured when projected onto a flat, horizontal surface (i.e. as seen in Roof Plan view). ‘Roofs’, or portions of roofs, covering unenclosed areas (e.g. roofs over porches and open covered parking structures) are not included in the areas used to evaluate compliance with SSc7.2, though they may be applicable to SSc7.1.. So use of solar panels effectively reduces the area that you need to consider for other measures.

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Denise S Jan 10 2011 Member 108 Thumbs Up

does anyone know if the same applies to a green roof application as well?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jan 10 2011 Moderator

Denise, green roofs are a key way to earn SSc7.2. I'm not sure if that's your question, though -- can you clarify?

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Denise S Jan 10 2011 Member 108 Thumbs Up

sorry, i meant for option 1 of ssc7.2. If I go the reflective materials route, am i able to not count green roof and photovoltaic panels as part of my total roof areaRoof area is the area of the uppermost surface of the building which covers enclosed Gross Floor Area, as measured when projected onto a flat, horizontal surface (i.e. as seen in Roof Plan view). ‘Roofs’, or portions of roofs, covering unenclosed areas (e.g. roofs over porches and open covered parking structures) are not included in the areas used to evaluate compliance with SSc7.2, though they may be applicable to SSc7.1.?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jan 10 2011 Moderator

Denise, Option 3 is a combination of Options 1 or 2. So it's not either/or.

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John Kinch Mar 23 2011 Guest 96 Thumbs Up

To clarify,

We have existing solar roof shingles which cover approximately 50% of our roof. Are solar shingles still considered appurtenances? Because of the slope and the weight load we cannot do the green roof option, though we are considering the white roof option for the other portion of it.

Thanks!

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Mar 24 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

That should work - your solar shingles in this case would be considered mechanical equipment, which you subtract from your total roof areaRoof area is the area of the uppermost surface of the building which covers enclosed Gross Floor Area, as measured when projected onto a flat, horizontal surface (i.e. as seen in Roof Plan view). ‘Roofs’, or portions of roofs, covering unenclosed areas (e.g. roofs over porches and open covered parking structures) are not included in the areas used to evaluate compliance with SSc7.2, though they may be applicable to SSc7.1., and use white/ high SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100. roof for 75% of the remainder.

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Ben Hollon Mechanical Engineer Antella Consulting Engineers
Dec 17 2010
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Roof Plan Submittal

I have a roof plan that was created by the original architect. I can add a few things in Photoshop and have a pretty nice looking submittal but I was wondering if this would be frowned upon. It feels like I am "stealing" the architects work. My team has debated erasing the existing title block and adding our own, or adding a blurb about how the drawings are being used w/ permission from the client solely for LEED purposes. What is normally done in the submission process with this issue? Do we even need to change anything with the existing title block?

Thanks.

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Dec 20 2010 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

It may be acceptable to mark up or alter the drawings, as long as you a) have permission from the architect as well as the client for the specific use or changes, and b) make it clear which information is yours.

We've had LEED reviewers who suggested we hide or turn off unnecessary information in the drawings or make it very obvious where the relevant LEED info was. Their priority is more for efficient review and are less concerned with format formalities. Anecdotally, I'd say that LEED submissions need to "clear, complete, and credible," (to coin a phrase) but there are no legal or policy guidelines for format, title blocks, or attribution.

Many architects will remove their stamp from the title block of drawings submitted for LEED and provide a disclaimer "For LEED Documentation - Not Intended for Construction" to make it clear that these are not Construction Documents, which become part of a legal contract between the general contractor and owner.

You might consider adding a key note with date and LEED purpose to the title block or notes area and then use revision clouds, color circles, or highlighting, etc to make the LEED specific information on the drawings more obvious. With permission, you could also use the original drawings as "backgrounds" for your own photoshoped sheet, and make your markup and highlighting clearly your own.

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Jorge Lopez de Obeso Principal Energia y Arquitectura
Dec 08 2010
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Example Roof Maintenance Program.

Do any of you guys have a complete roof maintenance program that can be shared? I'm not sure if the document needs to be as simple as it sounds or would need to have a number of specifications. My roof isn't sloped at all and it has an area of approx. 1800sq ft. Thanks in advance!

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 28 2010 Moderator

Jorge, we don't have a sample. I think it can be pretty simple, though.

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Marc Mondor Principal evolve LLC
Oct 08 2010
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Glass SRI

Has anyone had any experience with glass roofs? We are working on a greenhouse and need some advice on calculating the area covered in glass. I assume that this cannot be considered one large skylight.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Oct 08 2010 Moderator

I think you would have to test the glass, if there isn't a manufacturer you can get specs from. There is so much variation in the performance of glass.

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Jutta Berns-Mumbi principal consultant ecocentric cc - green building services
Aug 31 2010
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material specification

where we are located, SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100. is not a common terminology and we are currently in the process of specifying an SRI compliant roof coating for a roof which is currently undergoing repainting/repair.

the product we are looking at gives us the following data:
heat reflectance: >99%
emittance: 0.88

if i assume that heat reflectance equates to solar reflectance, we can achieve an SRI of over 126. Are my assumptions correct? or is heat reflectance not the same as solar reflectance?

all the other information contained in the data spec for this particular product indicate that this is a cool roof product - but since it is not a US product, the terminology is a bit confusing to us.

many thanks!

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Jacob Arlein Director of Energy Services, Environmental Building Strategies Aug 31 2010 Guest 266 Thumbs Up

Jutta,
I am not exactly sure what you mean by heat reflectance, do you mean thermal reflectance? Either way, heat reflectance is not the same as solar reflectance or albedoAlbedo is synonymous with solar reflectance.. Albedo is the ratio of total-reflected to incident electromagnetic radiation from the sun. This is a measure over all wavelengths of light.

It is likely that this product is still a cool roof product with such a high thermal emmitance level, but you will have to determine the solar reflectance of the material to be able to accurately calculate SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100..

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Jutta Berns-Mumbi principal consultant, ecocentric cc - green building services Aug 31 2010 Member 218 Thumbs Up

many thanks for the response and i understand the point you make.

unfortunately the data sheet simply states "heat reflectance" and "emittance" - as above - and also has a value for thermal conductivity (0.09 W/m°K).

are there any other resources we could consult to help us calculate the SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100. correctly with the information that we have available?

indeed all products that we have been able to source so far (we are located in South Africa) only provide, if at all, values for heat reflectance and emittance.

we are being pushed to make a decision on the coating and really do not want to lose the point on documentation, if it seems that we may be quite close!

many thanks!

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Aug 31 2010 Moderator

Can you ask the manufacturer to clarify, or offer better data?

This may simply be a language issue, where what they are calling "heat reflectance" is in fact "solar reflectance."

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Jutta Berns-Mumbi principal consultant, ecocentric cc - green building services Sep 01 2010 Member 218 Thumbs Up

Many thanks! have done so and it was indeed simply a language issue and the test reports have now confirmed the values. Such is the excitement of working on projects outside the US!

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Yun Day Firm Administrator Shlemmer+Algaze+Associates
Aug 30 2010
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75% COMPLIANCE area

Our roof is 100% covered with White EPDM material. On top of that material are the HVAC units. There are also a couple of vents and a hatch opening for roof access. All these things add up to 56.5% of the roof areaRoof area is the area of the uppermost surface of the building which covers enclosed Gross Floor Area, as measured when projected onto a flat, horizontal surface (i.e. as seen in Roof Plan view). ‘Roofs’, or portions of roofs, covering unenclosed areas (e.g. roofs over porches and open covered parking structures) are not included in the areas used to evaluate compliance with SSc7.2, though they may be applicable to SSc7.1.. Does this forfiet me from getting credit SS c 7.2? Since I do not have 75% of the roof clear of obstructions? Thanks.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Aug 30 2010 Moderator

Appurtenances such as HVAC equipment, etc., can be excluded from the calculations. Good news for your project.

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Paul C Sep 10 2010 Guest 981 Thumbs Up

Does this mean if the building 100' x 100' for example = 10,000 sq/ft total roof surface, you will use 10,000 sq/ft as your total roof sq/ft. even though your roof may only be really covered by 50% SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100. membrane and the other 50% HVAC appurtenances, etc...??

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Sep 10 2010 Moderator

When you're documenting this credit in LEED Online, the form asks you to provide total roof areaRoof area is the area of the uppermost surface of the building which covers enclosed Gross Floor Area, as measured when projected onto a flat, horizontal surface (i.e. as seen in Roof Plan view). ‘Roofs’, or portions of roofs, covering unenclosed areas (e.g. roofs over porches and open covered parking structures) are not included in the areas used to evaluate compliance with SSc7.2, though they may be applicable to SSc7.1. "excluding mechanical equipment, photovoltaic panels, and skylights)." So, you're not entering total roof area, you're entering total roof area that is eligible for consideration under the credit. You're also uploading a roof plan and other documentation. Make sense?

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Yun Day Firm Administrator, Shlemmer+Algaze+Associates Sep 13 2010 Member 205 Thumbs Up

That makes perfect sense Tristan. What doesn't make sense is that when LEED asks for the SF (from LEED;Note that in the table below, 'Square footage' refers to the actual area of roof covered by the SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100. surface) and then asks for "Total roof areaRoof area is the area of the uppermost surface of the building which covers enclosed Gross Floor Area, as measured when projected onto a flat, horizontal surface (i.e. as seen in Roof Plan view). ‘Roofs’, or portions of roofs, covering unenclosed areas (e.g. roofs over porches and open covered parking structures) are not included in the areas used to evaluate compliance with SSc7.2, though they may be applicable to SSc7.1. (excluding mechanical equipment, photovoltaic panels, and skylights) (sf):"
and then I calculate I get a number of 243.55%. Because my the overall SF is 5932 sf and the number excluding the appurtenances is
2591.75 I come out with that strange number.

LEED's response was this;
Response: The information provided above indicates that the area of White EPDM (5932 sf) exceeds the total roof area (2591 sf). This information would indicate that the reported square footages may be incorrect and would indeed result in > 100%. Perhaps the numbers are switched? Also, please note that the calculation for the SRI compliant area is weighted based on the SRI value. Therefore, when using high SRI materials, it is possible that this calculation will demonstrate > 100% compliant roof area.

I guess what they are saying is that it is okay to have a 200+% number. Does that make any sense to you? If it does I have completed this credit.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Sep 15 2010 Moderator

You didn't mention your SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100. values, but if they're higher than the minimum requirements, it's not surprising that the weighted value would generate a weird-looking percentage number.

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Andrea Marzullo LEED Specialist, OSC/CFEEA Oct 03 2011 Member 64 Thumbs Up

Just to be sure....table SSc7.2-1 asks for the total square footage of the reflective material. And THEN it asks for the total square footage of the roof MINUS the solar panels, skylights and mechanical equipment. I have entered in the relective material square footage which is a larger number than the square footage minus the appurtenances. And this will be okay? Shall I upload a spreadsheet with all the square footage numbers in it (total roof, roof minus LEED-allowed appurtenances, roof minus terrace and other "non-roof" surfaces, etc)?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Nov 14 2011 Moderator

Andrea, I don't see how the SF of your reflective material could be larger than the SF of the applicable roof areaRoof area is the area of the uppermost surface of the building which covers enclosed Gross Floor Area, as measured when projected onto a flat, horizontal surface (i.e. as seen in Roof Plan view). ‘Roofs’, or portions of roofs, covering unenclosed areas (e.g. roofs over porches and open covered parking structures) are not included in the areas used to evaluate compliance with SSc7.2, though they may be applicable to SSc7.1.. It implies that some of the area you are counting as appurtenances actually has relfective roofing on it. Or am I misunderstanding something?

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Andrea Marzullo LEED Specialist, OSC/CFEEA Nov 15 2011 Member 64 Thumbs Up

Exactly, Tristan. Our RTU-1 rooftop unit (5794 square feet) actually has the reflective roofing on it. I should be okay, right? I uploaded a very clearly labeled Google Earth map.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Nov 15 2011 Moderator

Yes, that sounds okay. Hopefully everything is clear to the reviewer and you don't have any difficulties.

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wayne hendrickson
Aug 05 2010
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Shaded roof

If the shaded roof areaRoof area is the area of the uppermost surface of the building which covers enclosed Gross Floor Area, as measured when projected onto a flat, horizontal surface (i.e. as seen in Roof Plan view). ‘Roofs’, or portions of roofs, covering unenclosed areas (e.g. roofs over porches and open covered parking structures) are not included in the areas used to evaluate compliance with SSc7.2, though they may be applicable to SSc7.1. exceeds the 75% does that meet the requirement of this credit. I have a building that has an architectural crown of white glass that shades over 75% of the roof surface at any given time.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Aug 05 2010 Moderator

Wayne, there's no shading option for this credit. The white glass must meet the SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100. requirements of Option 1. (See above for more.)

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Michael Williams
Jun 01 2010
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What if the roof doesn't requiring replacing?

Our project's roof does not meet the credit requirements. The owner is willing to spec a compliant roofing system; however, the roof is in good conditions and still has 7 years left on its warranty. Is a commitment to purchase a compliant roofing system once the roof requires replacement a valid compliance path? I'm guessing based on Kim's experience above that this is not likely a possibility. It seems a bit 'counter-green' to replace a roofing system that is still in good working order.

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Natalie Bodenhamer Green Building Consultant, CTG Energetics, Inc Jun 01 2010 Guest Expert 324 Thumbs Up

A commitment to purchase a compliant roof system does not meet the credit requirements of SSc7.2. This is a great opportunity to integrate the roof replacement into the LEED EB Recertification plan/strategy. The replacement may impact energy efficiency (EAc1), in addition to SSc7.2.

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Cara Weber
May 21 2010
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Ballasted Roofs SRI?

Has anyone had luck getting a good SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100. rating out of existing ballasted roofs? Apart from sending this to a lab, are there any charts or other information to use? Has anyone successfully gotten this credit when their building has a majority of light-colored ballasted roofs?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. May 28 2010 Moderator

Cara, I don't have definite answers to any of your very good questions, but I did find some interesting resources. A fairly recent note in the Cool Roofs Rating Council newsletter that makes it sound like ballasted roofs are gaining acceptance as "cool" roofs. Also, a study from ORNL that may be behind some of this recognition.

I'm not sure where this leaves you, except perhaps with some encouragement that you're on a reasonable path.

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BKSK Architect BKSK Architects Jun 01 2010 Member 171 Thumbs Up

Just to clarify a bit further, while white ballasted roofs are showing evidence of performing as well as other "cool roof" systems, the USGBC does not recognize any flat roof material under a 78 SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100. for the SScr7.2 LEED credit. This is because the intention of the credit for micro-climate development is not met by materials that do not meet this threshold.

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Jonathan Weiss Aug 16 2010 Member 660 Thumbs Up

Just to echo what is stated above - we submitted a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide about a ballasted roof referencing the ORNL study and the CRRC information, and the response to the CIR confirmed that although the ballasted roof performs as well or better than a white roof for energy purposes, it does not meet LEED's requirements, because of the micro-climate issues listed above. It still may be better to use a ballasted roof in some situations, and forgo this particular LEED point.

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RASHID HAMEEN
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SRI compliant paints

What if we apply a paint, for instance lets say we apply White color paint which is not a specific reflective coating on our roof. Will we able to claim the credit?
If not, do we specifically need to make the roof by a compliant SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100. material or by a specific reflective coating to meet the credit needs?
Please forward your ideas....Thanks

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Mar 25 2010 Moderator

Rashid, you will need documentation showing that the paint or whatever else you apply is actually high SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100.. You can't simply claim the credit by using a white color, since SRI values vary so much even with materials that may appear to be simlar colors. Also, keep in mind that SRI factors in emissivityEmissivity is the ratio of the radiation emitted by a surface to the radiation emitted by a black body at the same temperature. which is different than reflectivity. Polished aluminum, for example, is highly reflective but very poorly emissive.

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RASHID HAMEEN Mar 26 2010 Guest 204 Thumbs Up

Thanks tristan for your comments. In case if we couldn't find a coating which has data sheets to show compliance of that having a suitable SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100. will it be sufficient if we check a sample with lab and show the compliance or does our test has to be done to a sample of the roof material which is after applying the paint..please post your comments.

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