NC 2009 EAc3: Enhanced Commissioning

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Blas Beristain
Feb 03 2012
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CxA designation question

Hello!

We are involved in a project of a new headquarters of an architectural firm.

In this project, the owner will be the architectural firm. Of course, the design team will be also part of the architectural firm.

¿Can a disinterested employee of this architectural firm be the CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. of this project?

We know that this possibility is not a problem to achieve EAp1 but we are not sure with EAc3.

Thanks!

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Ante Vulin Sustainability Manager, YR&G Feb 03 2012 Member 11 Thumbs Up

Based on Table 2 shown under the "Checklists" tab above, under the "Design Development" heading, in the item that begins "An Independent Consultant" (sorry I can't just give you a link), an owner's employee is permitted to be the enhanced CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements., assuming that person meets the requirement. I think that direct relationship is the most important factor, beyond the specific business of the owner.

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Blas Beristain Feb 06 2012 Member 9 Thumbs Up

Thanks Ante!

Nevertheless, based on this table, a disinterested employee of the arquitect can not be the CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements..

This question is not clear based only on this table. I hope someone has a similar experience and can help us.

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Hsin-Yi Hsieh
Jan 19 2012
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Completing Enhanced Cx Templates for Federal Projects

Many federal projects are design/build (DB) where the DB firm hires the Commissioning Authority (CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements.).

The LEED requirements are that the CxA “Is not an employee of, or contracted through, a contractor or construction manager holding construction contracts”.

EAc3 template requires both a signature that the CxA is independent of the construction team and an uploaded commissioning contract.
With that being said, Federal Design/Build projects do get certified with enhanced commissioning.

My question goes to how to complete the LEED Template.

As a third party commissioning authority, contracted through the DB firm, how can we make the case that we are not contracted through a contractor or construction manager when we need to upload a copy of the commissioning contract?

Has there been “Alternate Approach” wording that has been successfully reviewed by GBCI??

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jason schneider Jan 31 2012 Member

It is my experience that GBCI permitted this relationship under LEED v2.2 as stated in several CIR’s on this topic. However, those CIR’s do not apply to LEED 2009 and GBCI is enforcing the contractual separation between D/B Contractor and the CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements.. The RFP may still require Enhanced Commissioning services, and the D/B team must provide them, however those activities are not applicable toward EAc3. There still appears to be confusion on LEED requirements on the part of individuals responsible for preparation of the RFP; some are better than others.

However, I have seen one RFP recently that stated specifically that the Government would provide the CxA for Enhanced Commissioning only, creating that separation required by LEED. I have also seen contracting positions for CxA’s posted to the FedBizOpps website. The Government ship turns sloooowly, but it is turning.

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Peter Dishno Commissioning Engineer
Nov 03 2011
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10-Month Review

Does anyone have any advice on doing 10-Month Reviews? A past company I have worked at did a sample re-commissioning of the systems. The current company I am working with just wants me to take a short questionaire to the owner and general contractor to review performance.

The LEED book isn't all that helpfull on this subject.

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Nov 14 2011 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

The goal of the 10 month review is to identify any comfort problems as well as determine if there are any issues related to the efficient operation of the facility. This is best determined by a review of the comfort complaints from the occupants and an analysis of the building energy use. Depending on the findings of these efforts, additional work may be required and should be identified in an issues log. The log should define the issue, source of the problem (if known) and the party responsible for resolving the issue.

The CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. is not necessarily responsible for resolving the issue unless that was part of their original contract.

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Benchito Herrera Asst.Controller/ LEED AP BD+C Black Construction Corporation
Sep 23 2011
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Designate CXA

Is the Owner only qualified to designate a CXAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements.?What if the contractor or subcontractor already hire CXA to do the commissionfor the project will that disqualify the proj.from achieving EA Pre1 Fundamental Commissioning and EA cr 3 Enhanced Commissioning?If that's the case,what is the remedy to correct and be qualified for the LEED credit/prerequiste? Pls.help comment...

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Peter Dishno Commissioning Engineer Nov 03 2011 Guest 7 Thumbs Up

My suggestion is introduce the owner to the commissioning contractor and see if they can work out a direct contract. Many owners don't know anything about commissioning and end up getting some type of help from either the contractors involved or architect on the project. The key is the contract itself has to be with the owner so that the CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. can be an independant advocate for the owner.

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E H Sustainability Architect
Jun 14 2011
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District Energy System owned by Government vs. Owner

My question is in regard to both EAc3: Enhanced Commissioning and EAc5: Measurement and Verification credits in relation to a District Energy System. We are working on a project based in China where the District Energy System is not owned or controlled by the owner but rather by the government. Due to the strict and undisclosed nature of the government in China, obtaining information and specific numbers on the energy performance and maintenance of the DES equipment will be difficult, making the Enhanced Commissioning and Measurement and Verification of all District Energy System equipment unfeasible. The USGBC guidance entitled “Treatment of District or Campus Thermal Energy in LEED V2 and LEED 2009-Design & Construction” provide compliance paths on page 8, section 2.3.2 for EAc3: Enhanced Commissioning and on page 17, section 2.7 for EAc5 Measurement and Verification. However, the guidelines and interpretations it provides appear to apply only to owner-operated DES systems and does not seem to include an approach for utility and/or government-operated DES systems. For our project, can we assume all upstream equipmentUpstream equipment consists of all heating or cooling systems, equipment, and controls that are associated with a district energy system but are not part of the project building's thermal connection or do not interface with the district energy system. It includes the central energy plant and all transmission and distribution equipment associated with transporting the thermal energy to the project building and site. included in the District Energy System be excluded in the scope of both EAc3 and EAc5? Thanks so much!

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Susann Geithner Director of Sustainability, HSB Architects & Engineers Jun 14 2011 Guest Expert 2083 Thumbs Up

You will have to include the upstream equipmentUpstream equipment consists of all heating or cooling systems, equipment, and controls that are associated with a district energy system but are not part of the project building's thermal connection or do not interface with the district energy system. It includes the central energy plant and all transmission and distribution equipment associated with transporting the thermal energy to the project building and site. also for a District Energy system owned by a utility company or the government. We just submitted a project for design review and had this particular issue for EAc3. We actually talked this through with the GBCI to clarify the requirements and documentation. The only exception would be to have less than 20% of the buildings energy supplied by the DES. This is also noted in the DES guideline. Otherwise there is always an alternative compliance approach, which probably should be clarified with an CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide.

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Niels Varming
Jun 07 2011
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Sub-consultant to CxA

Hi.
We have a project over 50.000 sf, where an individual from the Owner is CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements.. He would, however, like to hire a sub-consultant to handle some of the work during the construction phase. This subconsultant do not have any connection to the project or to companies involved in the project. Is this possible?

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Keith Steurer Structural Engineer, Shive-Hattery, Inc. Jun 07 2011 Member 118 Thumbs Up

It would be helpful to know for your situation if you will only be doing fundamental commissioning or if you will also be doing enhanced commissioning for you LEED project.

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Niels Varming Jun 08 2011 Member 126 Thumbs Up

Sorry about that. I filled it out under Enhanced, so I guess I took it for granted that the question was about that.

We are trying to get the Enhanced points as well. Are there any difference?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jun 08 2011 Moderator

Niels the requirements are for the CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. to be a qualified member of the owner's staff or an outside consultant. I'd say you meet that requirement.  My only question is whether it's a good idea for the duties to be split in this way? Will they be working as a team, or have distinct duties? If the latter, I am not sure that would pass muster.

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Niels Varming Jun 08 2011 Member 126 Thumbs Up

Hi Tristan. Thank you for your answer.

The reason this is relevant is that the owners organisation within this area have be reduced during the project time, and they at present don't have personnel enough to do this correctly during the final phase of the construction. They would rather do this correct with an external consultant to help them. It would be in a teamwork, where the owners CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. will coordinate the work.

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Matt Nolan LEED AP Belay Architecture
Jun 03 2011
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LEED Commissioning vs. "Total Building Commissioning" (TBCx)

I am seeing more and more project requirements (for new buildings) mentioning TBCx (Total Building Commissioning)- which is based on ASHRAE Guideline 0. I'm not real familiar with it, and don't know what I need to plan for to meet this requirement.

Does anybody know how this level of Cx compares with the levels required for both LEED Fundamental and Enhanced Commissioning?

Thanks!

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Jun 13 2011 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

Matt, TBC is the concept of commissioning more than just the LEED-required systems. It does not necessarily change the commissioning process beyond the enhanced Cx1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included. requirements, it looks at additional scope of systems (envelope, life safety, emergency power systems, etc.). As with many things, the scope of TBC is defined differently by different organizations.

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Gary Shlifer Green Building Professional LEED AP BD+C, Homes, CH Guernsey and Company Jun 30 2011 Member 11 Thumbs Up

It has been established that within the context of a Federal Gov't Design-Build project, the contractor 'can' sub-contract a CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. to act as the 'disinterested 3rd Party'.
The CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide was authored and appeared on the last version of the CIR database. However, under the new 'beta' database I am unable to locate the exact CIR.
I am currently involved with 'many' such projects where the contractor has sub-contracted a CxA or CxA firm.

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Loretta Maine Administrative Assistant Crossland Construction Company, Inc.
Apr 20 2011
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Hiring a CxA

Enhanced Commissioning Requirements state that a CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. must not be contracted through a contractor or construction manager. Can anyone clarify if this means the contractor cannot hire an individual to perform CxA duties OR if it means the contractor cannont even hire a company/corporation?

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Apr 25 2011 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

It means both, the contractor cannot hire an individual or a company. The intent is for there to be no influence by the construction team on the CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements..

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Margaret Montgomery Principal NBBJ
Mar 24 2011
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DES Commissioning

We're looking at a project where we do meet all the conditions for enhanced commissioning that would indicate we need to commission the district energy plant (third party, local CHPCombined heat and power (CHP), or cogeneration, generates both electrical power and thermal energy from a single fuel source. plant), but we've opted to model the district steam as purchased, and not include its efficiency impact in modeling. If this is the case, it would seem that we could also exclude it from the Cx1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included. scope. Have any of you run into this?
Also, it would be great to see an example of an existing CHP plant protocol for commissioning to share with the plant operators.

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Apr 26 2011 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

There is specific guidance on Cx1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included. of central energy plants in the updated "Treatment of District or Campus Thermal Energy in LEED V2 and LEED 2009 - Design & Construction". Section 2.3.2 gives specific guidance but, in general, if your building is bigger than 50,000 sf, your district system supplies more than 20% of the buildings annual energy cost, and you are doing an energy model for EA C1, then all upstream (district plant) equipment is included in EA C3.

Note that you only have to Cx the equipment associated with the utility you are using. If you are only using steam from the plant, you only need to Cx the steam producing equipment.

Your Cx agent should provide you with a CHPCombined heat and power (CHP), or cogeneration, generates both electrical power and thermal energy from a single fuel source. commissioning protocol.

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George Abou Adal
Mar 22 2011
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Supervising the Commissioning of 20% of the energy systems

Hello,

We are working on a project in which all the energy systems will be installed, tested and balanced by the general contractor. However, as per the requirements of this credit, the CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. will supervise and verify that the commissioning is being undertaken according to the procedures highlighted in the commissioning plan.

The CxA, however, would like to know if the supervision/audit of 20% of all the commissioned is enough ? Is there a minimum percentage that should be respected?

Many thanks,

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Apr 26 2011 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

There is no minimum percentage for sampling. The percentage should reflect a reasonable sampling of the equipment based on complexity, impact on energy use, impact on building operations, etc. We have seen rates from 10% -100%. Most large critical systems are 100% and terminal equipment (VAVVariable Air Volume (VAV) is an HVAC conservation feature that supplies varying quantities of conditioned (heated or cooled) air to different parts of a building according to the heating and cooling needs of those specific areas. boxes) can be from 10%-25%. Note that if problems are found with the sampled units you should expand your sampling to include more units to determine if you have a chronic issue.

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Fabiano Ferreira Cushman & Wakefield
Mar 16 2011
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Late Enhanced Comissioning

Does exist any time limit between the construction conclusion and the start of enhanced comissioning?
i.e. To comply to this credit, can I contract the enhanced comissioning in a building that has been occupied for 11 months?

Thank you!

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Mar 16 2011 Guest Expert 4367 Thumbs Up

Are you considering enhanced commissioning for a NC project that is already complete? If the commissioning would be for systems that have already been constructed, the credit is not achievable. The commissioning design review of 50% CDs has to be completed by the party providing enhanced commissioning at that point in the schedule - so there is time for comments and changes to be incorporated into the final construction documents.

If you're considering enhanced commissioning for a tenant improvement pursuing LEED CI in a building that is already built, well, that's a different story....

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Apr 26 2011 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

Agreed. Enhanced Cx1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included. should (must) be engaged during the design phase of the project (hopefully during schematic design). Commissioning of a completed building does not comply with the intent of the credit.

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Julianne Laue Mechanical Engineer DLR Group
Feb 18 2011
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Enhanced CX 'Design Firm'

If a firm is a AE firm and are signing the arch drawings, but not involved in MEP...can an engineer in the firm be the CX1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included.?

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Scott Bowman Principal, KJWW Engineering Consultants Feb 18 2011 Member 667 Thumbs Up

I have never run across this issue, but you would want to be careful and make sure that the requirement that the CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. not be "employee of design firm" applies to the MEP only, and not to the whole design team.

A quick CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide would be important to make sure you do not expend a lot of effort, and then only get credit for fundamental (which would definately not be a problem).

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Keith Steurer Structural Engineer, Shive-Hattery, Inc. Mar 30 2011 Member 118 Thumbs Up

We recently researched this issue as well. There is a LEED Interpretation on this, #5348, that states that an enhanced commissioning agent cannot be an employee of an A|E firm that is doing the architectural design of the project, even if the A|E firm is not the engineer of record for the mechanical and electrical design. Go to https://www.usgbc.org/LeedInterpretations/LILanding.aspx and do a search for inquiry number 5348 to read the entire question, ruling and applicable LEED rating systems.

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Eric JS
Jan 30 2011
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UPS system need to be commissioned?

Hi all,

UPS system is used as a back up power in case if there is power failure. In that case. UPS itself consume small amount of power. In that case, do we include this in commisioning system?

Thanks and cheers!

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mike w lackey, pe principal, lackey de carvajal cx Jan 30 2011 Member 50 Thumbs Up

A UPS would not be required to be commissioned under LEED 2009. There are only four systems required to be commissioned, HVAC, Domestic Hot water, Lighting Controls and On-site Renewable Energy.
A UPS system does not fall under any of these categories.

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Brian Farrelly
Jan 07 2011
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Refrigeration commissioning

Hi,
We are carrying out Ehanced Commissioning EAc3 on a large recreation centre which is made up of an ice rink, swimming pool, gym, offices etc. Under LEED EAc1 the ice rink plant is considered a process energy load, however under EAc3 its states refrigeration systems have to be commissioning which is generally applied to split and VRF AC systems. Althought the ice rink system will be commissioned under the normal contract, can someone clarify whether the ice rink system is required to be commissioned and documented under this credit

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Jan 21 2011 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

As you stated, refrigeration systems must be commissioned as part of the fundamental and enhanced requirements. I would assume the ice rink equipment will need to be commissioned as part of the enhanced requirements and the Cx1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included. agent will need to meet the requirements of the LEED rating system.

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Regina Ng
Jan 03 2011
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Re: Enhanced Commissioning Agent for District Cooling Plants

Hi,
Under the guidelines for Treatment of District or Campus Thermal Energy in LEED v2 and LEED 2009 – Design & Construction, it states that the District Cooling Plants also need to undergo enhanced commissioning if the project is going for this credit. Does the Enhanced Commissioning Agent for the District Cooling Plant have to be third party or can the District Cooling Plant undergo their own commissioning to achieve the criteria for LEED?

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Scott Bowman Principal, KJWW Engineering Consultants Jan 07 2011 Member 667 Thumbs Up

I am not sure I totally agree that the DES must always be commissioned if pursuing EAc3. There is list of criteria in the Version 3 application guide that the project must meet in order for the DES to need Cx1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included., otherwise upstream equipmentUpstream equipment consists of all heating or cooling systems, equipment, and controls that are associated with a district energy system but are not part of the project building's thermal connection or do not interface with the district energy system. It includes the central energy plant and all transmission and distribution equipment associated with transporting the thermal energy to the project building and site. is excluded.

There are certainly many instances where the DES would have to be commissioning, but thinking of the several projects we have done related to this, only a couple would apply, those where the "central plant" is in an adjacent building, but that plant only serves one or two more buildings. In a campus situation, the building is normally a very small part of the overall output of the DES, so would rarely required additional Cx.

The new DES guide for EBOMEBOM is an acronym for Existing Buildings: Operations & Maintenance, one of the LEED 2009 rating sytems. however is encoraging Cx of these services by offering a IO if the DES was commissioned in the last three years. So maybe a NC project that has a DES which has been fully commissioned in the last three years might apply for an ID?

Regardless of that, I read nothing in the application guide that would indicate that the Cx of the DES must be or cannot be the same one for the building. I think you could have a different company do the DES than the building, or the same one as long as you meet the other criteria of EAc3 requirements.

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Regina Ng Jan 11 2011 Member 327 Thumbs Up

In this particular project, the project meets the criteria where the upstream equipmentUpstream equipment consists of all heating or cooling systems, equipment, and controls that are associated with a district energy system but are not part of the project building's thermal connection or do not interface with the district energy system. It includes the central energy plant and all transmission and distribution equipment associated with transporting the thermal energy to the project building and site. needs to be commissioned. However, the DES has their own in-house CxS to conduct the commissioning whereas for the building that is undergoing LEED certification, we have a third party CxS. Is this sufficient to meet EAc3 under the new application guide for LEED?

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Scott Bowman Principal, KJWW Engineering Consultants Jan 11 2011 Member 667 Thumbs Up

Interesting. I am guessing you may have a unique situation that needs to be clarified in a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide. If the in-house CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. for the DES is the owner of the building, then I think it would work, since the owner if qualified can do enhanced commissioning, but then I would guess they would be doing the building then.

If the DES is not associated with the building or owner, then I am guessing that you would not be able to get EAc3 without a third party CxA for the DES, but it would not have to be the same firm doing the building.

Again, this is my guess without knowing all the particulars.

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Regina Ng Jan 11 2011 Member 327 Thumbs Up

Yes. The DES is owned by another private company that is supplying the chilled water to the building undergoing LEED certification. In this case, i guess it would be the best to submit a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide because it is impossible to get the DES to get a third party CxS since the DES does not belong to the owner of the building. I don't think the DES is willing to let a third party CxS to commission their systems even if it is paid by the owner of the building undergoing LEED certification. The reason being that if the commissioning results meant that the DES has to change certain system, the DES is unwilling to bear the costs of doing so since they have no obligation to help the building meet LEED EAc3 unless it had been stipulated in the contract.

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Jan 21 2011 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

Good discussion on this item. A qualified employee of the owner or consultant to the owner can perform the Enhanced Cx1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included.. The intent behind this requirement is to ensure that no inherent conflict of interest affects the quality of the Cx efforts. The assumption is that the owner or their consultant has no conflict and indeed wants their system to be commissioned as effectively as possible. In this case I would assume that the "owner" of the upstream equipmentUpstream equipment consists of all heating or cooling systems, equipment, and controls that are associated with a district energy system but are not part of the project building's thermal connection or do not interface with the district energy system. It includes the central energy plant and all transmission and distribution equipment associated with transporting the thermal energy to the project building and site. is the DES company. Following that assumption, they, or a consultant working for them, can meet the requirements as long as the consultant is not part of the design and construction team for the LEED project. The key here is to verify that the "owner" would indeed be the DES company.

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Jorng-ren Chern Enertek Sustainable Design & Technology
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Upload whole system manual?

The EA C3 credit form require us to upload system manual.

The project I am working is a large clean room project. The capacity of the HVAC system is huge and so are the system manuals. My office did receive whole system manual in PDF files and these files size are more than 500 Mega.

Shall I follow the instruction on credit and upload whole system manual, or just upload the content and a message to explain the status? Or any good ideas?

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Scott Bowman Principal, KJWW Engineering Consultants Dec 29 2010 Member 667 Thumbs Up

Our policy is to submit the whole Cx1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included. Report and Systems Manual, but while we have had large files, nothing as large at you mention. Large parts of a Systems Manual can be manufacturers information or repetative. You might try including some information for each heading in the manual, then indicate that some content has been deleted to conserve size.

At most, they might ask a question, but I would not expect an immediate rejection. On projects where we have been commissioned, we have seen much less submitted and accepted, but don't feel that is good practice.

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Keith Amann Sr. Sustainability Manager YR&G
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Who can be the CxA?

We have a situation where an owner wants to directly hire a sub-division of the civil engineering firm of record to perform enhanced commissioning. The reference guide states that for enhanced Cx1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included., they cannot be a disinterested employee of the architect or engineering firm. In this situation, is it assumed to be the MEP engineering firm they are referencing? If they are a disinterested party not involved in design as part of the civil engineering firm, is that allowable?

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Nov 10 2010 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

I don't think they mean just MEP. Due to the fact that the CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. could commission a variety of items (not just the LEED-required items), I would expect that the civil firm would still be under the "disinterested" category and not be eligible to act as the CxA.

Remember there has been a fair amount of variability in the responses from the LEED reviewers so predicting their response can be tricky.

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Keith Amann Sr. Sustainability Manager, YR&G Nov 19 2010 Member 129 Thumbs Up

Thanks Chris. Another question on this subject for a different situation that has come up. If an MEP firm provides early design but is not the engineer of record (another firm takes over at CD phase), can they then perform Cx1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included. as they are not signing/sealing drawings?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Nov 19 2010 Moderator

Keith my two cents would be that this situation wouldn't comply. The credit language seems pretty clear: the individual should be independent of the work of design and construction.

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Nov 23 2010 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

I agree with Tristan. The fact that they were involved with any portion of the design would put them in a conflict position. I would assume that the reviewers would decline this credit.

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Lauren Glasscock Sr. Sustainability Professional KEMA Services, Inc.
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Commissioning of On-Site Renewable Energy Systems

Today we received a clarification request for our Commissioning credit because our PV system has not yet been commissioned at the time of our submission. Our PV system has not yet been commissioned because it's not yet fully installed. It will be commissioned, though once it is installed, because the owner has a Commissioning Agent on-site devoted to this project who will be in charge of commissioning the system once it is installed.

I was under the impression that the PV did not have to be commissioned for the submission to the USGBC. My reasoning is that I was always told that EAc2 is a Design Submittal credit and therefore could be based on the design of the renewable energy system. Also, it does not seem reasonable to expect that our PV be fully installed at the time of our submission as PV always takes time to work out financing for as well as install and project schedules need to work faster than the time it takes to fully install the PV.

I am hoping that there might be an exception made if we provided a letter from the owner on their letterhead stating the guaranteed commissioning of our PV once it is installed. This would be a guarantee in much of the same way that guarantees are provided that in 8-10 months a commissioning review will be conducted on-site.

Please help advise. Has anyone else seen a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide or tried another approach? If we were to wait until the final system was installed our certification could be delayed for more than a year.

thank you.

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Lauren Glasscock Sr. Sustainability Professional, KEMA Services, Inc. Oct 22 2010 Guest Expert 3314 Thumbs Up

Hello,

Was hoping someone might have some advise on this one. Also, I should mention that my project is a LEED-NCv2.2 project so probably should have been filed under that category on LEEDuser.

Regardless, I'm wondering if anyone has been able to submit their LEED documentation for EAp1 stating that their renewable energy systems would be commissioned at a later date. I was thinking that I could provide a contract from the solar sub as well as a contract from the commissioning agent guaranteeing that it would be commissioned.

It's the one prerequisite holding us up from our LEED Platinum certification.

Thank you,
Lauren

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Lauren Glasscock Sr. Sustainability Professional, KEMA Services, Inc. Oct 22 2010 Guest Expert 3314 Thumbs Up

The Reference Guide language states:

"the summary commissioning report should include the following:
executive summary of the process and the results of the commissioning program --including observations, conclusions and any outstanding items."
No where can I find language that says all aspects have to be completed before LEED is awarded. Further, I found a couple of CIRs that, while not directly related (it is related to Tenant buildoutThe time at which all habitable buildings on the project are complete and ready for occupancy.), talk about the "use of a binding contract" as proof of compliance.

What do folks think about using a binding contract as proof of compliance? Has anyone tried this?

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Jean Marais b.i.g. Bechtold INGENIEURGESELLSCHAFT MBH Oct 24 2010 Member 2211 Thumbs Up

Sorry Lauren, I personally haven't had this situation, but it's a very valid topic. There are some projects (not in my house) that are going to have similar problems soon, but I'll only be able to report back in January on those. Keeping an eye on your thread though. Best of luck.

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Oct 25 2010 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

Lauren, sorry for the late reply (out of town,again).

This is the first time I have seen this response from a review. There are many, if not most, projects where the Cx1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included. may not be complete at the time of LEED submission. As you state, per the requirements of enhanced commissioning the CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. will not have completed the seasonal review until 6-10 months after occupancy. We are often closing the loop on post-commissioning items when the LEED docs are submitted.

A signed contract has been the assurance that the CxA will complete the required commissioning scope and services. Is the PV system specifically stated in the uploaded documents? If so, I would question the reviewers on this issue.

Say "Hi" to Elaine Shea for me.

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Lauren Glasscock Sr. Sustainability Professional, KEMA Services, Inc. Oct 25 2010 Guest Expert 3314 Thumbs Up

Chris,

Thanks so much for your response. I'll make sure to tell Elaine Hsieh you say hello.

I'm wondering my best approach moving forward with this reviewer and all others really. I don't really want to just provide a clarification because I want zero chance that it'll go to appeal because I feel that this will be unfair.

I've also heard of many projects being able to move forward with obtaining the commissioning point without the PV being fully installed yet.

Can someone with the GBCI/USGBC help inform this discussion? I'd like to get this resolved and clarified for projects moving forward. Thanks!

Lauren

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Scott Bowman Principal, KJWW Engineering Consultants Oct 28 2010 Member 667 Thumbs Up

I just saw this post as well. While not specific to PV, we have had several projects where the commissioning has not been complete at the time of submittal. Sometimes it has to do with project phasing, sometimes with seasonal testing reqiurements. We have always just noted this, and added a letter indicating we were under contract to do this work when appropriate (much like the warranty review).

We have never been questioned doing this.

Also, we recommend commissioning all energy using (or producing in this case) systems that are related to LEED, which would include on-site renewables. We also do any rainwater capture systems that might be part of the WE credits.

Scott...

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Nov 10 2010 Moderator

Lauren and others, I had an exchange with a LEED technical staff contact at USGBC. The following clarification questions came up:

Was all Cx1. Commissioning (Cx) is the process of verifying and documenting that a building and all of its systems and assemblies are planned, designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained to meet the owner's project requirements. 2. The process of checking the performance of a building against the owner's goals during design, construction, and occupancy. At a minimum, mechanical and electrical equipment are tested, although much more extensive testing may also be included. documentation for the PV system that could have been created
at that point was included in the submission? Was there any explanation
in the submission as to why full PV documentation was not included?  In
other words, was it fully apparent that the PV system was going to be
commissioned but it just hadn’t occurred yet?

 

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Lauren Glasscock Sr. Sustainability Professional, KEMA Services, Inc. Nov 10 2010 Guest Expert 3314 Thumbs Up

Hi Tristan,

The PV wasn't installed at the time of submission. Our commissioning report included the PV. Hwever, we should have been more clear that the PV was going to be installled at a later date and that we could guarantee that it would be commissioned at that later date.

I think I'm learning that it is most likely acceptable with reviewers for you to commission your renewable energy systems at a later date so long as you provide assurance that it's under the same scope of work (not attributed to a later project), that it's being commissioned by the same person, and some form of a guarantee that the renewable energy system will be installed.

Clarity and transparency is generally good with submissions. :)

Thanks for everyone's help. We just yesterday submitted our final clarifications for EAc3 by providing the items noted above. I'll keep you posted as to if our credit is granted.

Lauren

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deborah lucking
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Exemplary Performance for EA Cr3 Enhanced Commissioning

The LEED BD+C Reference Manual (pg 301, item 9) mentions that "LEED for New Construction,......projects that conduct comprehensive envelope commissioning may be considered for an innovation credit. These projects will need to demonstrate the standards and protocol by which the envelope was commissioned."
Does anyone know of any projects that have achieved this exemplary point? Any words of wisdom?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Sep 24 2010 Moderator

I haven't gone down this path but I want to make sure you saw the post above about resources supporting BE Cx.

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deborah lucking Sep 24 2010 Member 413 Thumbs Up

Just did; thanks. I'm also asking the guys at the Building Enclosure Council if they know of any such successful projects.

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Scott Armstrong Manager, Building Science & Sustainability, MMM Group Limited Oct 18 2010 Member 14 Thumbs Up

In Canada, we have a Regional Priority credit (used to be MRc8 in LEED Canada-NC) for a "Durable Building". The primary focus of the credit is on envelope durability but it also addresses structural components. I have provided durable building consulting for a number of projects but I'm not aware of anyone in the US achieving an ID point for a similar approach. For references, see CSA S478, NIBS Guildeline 3, and ASHRAE Guideline 0.

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deborah lucking Oct 22 2010 Member 413 Thumbs Up

I have since heard of a project that did achieve the Innovation credit for EECx. Stay tuned for more details.

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Donna Deuel Ashley McGraw Architects Dec 10 2010 Member 246 Thumbs Up

I am having a conversaiton with my commissioning agent about envelope commissioning and which standards/references to follow. This is helpful.

Deborah - is there an update to the project that you mentioned above?

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deborah lucking Dec 10 2010 Member 413 Thumbs Up

Nothing specific. We know of 2 projects that did achieve this exemplary point, and a couple more pursuing it. The 2 biggest challenges are
1. the expense involved in skin commissioning
2. the party best qualified to undertake the commissioning is usually the exterior envelope consultant, who would typically already be on your team.

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Donna Deuel Ashley McGraw Architects Dec 14 2010 Member 246 Thumbs Up

Thanks. Do you know which guildelines they followed? I've obtained the NIBC guildline and it is massive 337 pages. Do USGBC really want us to implement such guildline? I wish they are more specific on they are looking for.

Right now we are thinking to perform pressurization/depressurization testing based on ASTMVoluntary standards development organization which creates source technical standards for materials, products, systems, and services 1827-96 with calibrated blower door assemblies on the entire building. Do you think this is enough for LEED's sake?

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Dec 14 2010 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

The most applicable ASTMVoluntary standards development organization which creates source technical standards for materials, products, systems, and services standard relating to building air tightness testing is ASTM E 779. Unfortunately, this standard was developed primarily for residential applications. The US Army Corps of Engineers has developed a test protocol (based on ammendments to ASTM E 779) for use on their facilities. We have applied this test to military facilities and we use it for testing of private commercial buildings. It is the best I have seen for air tightness testing. Note that this may not be considered a comprehensive "building envelope test" but it is a good comparative measure that can serve as an indicator for the quility of the envelope, in general. Vapor transmission and water transmission is not specifically addressed by this test but if you don't have air leaks it is a good bet you have minimized related vapor and water leaks. Let me know if you need additional information. We may have to take this conversation off-line.

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Cynthia Estrada LEED AP BD&C SDS Architects, Inc.
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Enhanced Commissioning and developing OPR & BOD

Thanks for the previous posts, great information. I have been investigating the responsibilities of this credit and to my understanding, LEED requires that the Owner develop the OPROwner's project requirements (OPR) is a written document that details the ideas, concepts, and criteria that are determined by the owner to be important to the success of the project. and the MEP firm develops BODBasis of design (BOD) includes design information necessary to accomplish the owner's project requirements, including system descriptions, indoor environmental quality criteria, design assumptions, and references to applicable codes, standards, regulations, and guidelines.. Are there instances wthere the CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. would take on these responsibilities?

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Jul 27 2010 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

The CxAThe commissioning authority (CxA) is the individual designated to organize, lead, and review the completion of commissioning process activities. The CxA facilitates communication among the owner, designer, and contractor to ensure that complex systems are installed and function in accordance with the owner's project requirements. should be reviewing, not developing, the OPROwner's project requirements (OPR) is a written document that details the ideas, concepts, and criteria that are determined by the owner to be important to the success of the project./BODBasis of design (BOD) includes design information necessary to accomplish the owner's project requirements, including system descriptions, indoor environmental quality criteria, design assumptions, and references to applicable codes, standards, regulations, and guidelines. for content and scope. It is not unreasonable for the CxA to provide a template for the owner and/or designer to use as a guide when completing the OPR/BOD. We use a template that includes suggested scope and associated questions to help the owner/designer contemplate the kinds of issues that should be defined in the OPR and BOD. This template can be very usefull during OPR development meetings. All that being said, the final document must be confirmed and approved by the owner(OPR) or designer(BOD).

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Fabio Frescia Sustainable Engineer
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STEP 7 - Review contractor submittals

Dear all partner,

Pls. can you clarify to me about the requirements of Review contractor submittals. Submittals here is included: material/ equipment AND Shop drawing? Or just material/ equipment?

And which information that we need to review (capacity, standard, ....)?

Thanks.

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Chris Ladner Partner, Viridian Jul 27 2010 Guest Expert 709 Thumbs Up

Fabio,

The intent of the commissioning submittal review is to verify that the equipment and controls that are provided are in line with the OPROwner's project requirements (OPR) is a written document that details the ideas, concepts, and criteria that are determined by the owner to be important to the success of the project. that was developed for the project. Traditionally this involves review of the equipment and controls submittals. Depending on the scope and detail of the OPR, you may need to review the shop drawings to confirm compliance with access and maintenance requirements of the OPR.

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