NC 2009 IEQc5: Indoor Chemical and Pollutant Source Control

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  • A smorgasbord of requirements

    This credit requires compliance with a varied group of items that cumulatively help keep pollutants out of the indoor air. These requirements include self-closing doors on janitors' closets, MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. 13 filtration on mechanical equipment, and entryway trackoff systems.

    Compliance will require the coordination of team members—including the mechanical engineer, architect, plumbing engineer, and contractor—and also impact project design and operations. The basic requirements are:

    • Permanent entryway walk-off systems at least 10 feet long (up from 6 feet in previous versions of LEED) at all regularly...

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Elizabeth Powers Principal O'Brien & Company
Jan 09 2012
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Toner-less copiers

Would copiers (Xerox ColorQube 9303, specifically) that don't use toner but solid ink technology need to be kept in exhausted rooms, per IEQc5? This question assumes they are high-volume copiers.

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Dylan Connelly Senior Mechanical Engineer, Glumac Jan 10 2012 Guest Expert 141 Thumbs Up

I would suspect the LEED review won't have heard of the benefits of using solid ink technology. If you can prove that the technology emits little to no VOCs1. Volatile organic compounds (VOCs) are carbon compounds that participate in atmospheric photochemical reactions (excluding carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, carbonic acid, metallic carbides and carbonates, and ammonium carbonate). The compounds vaporize (become a gas) at normal room temperatures. 2. A molecule containing one or more carbon atoms that tends to evaporate (volatilize) into the air at typical ambi­ent conditions. Some legal definitions of VOCs are restricted to those that react with sunlight to generate smog. Some VOCs are carcinogens, suspected carcinogens, or known irritants at typical levels., etc and has no adverse effect on IAQIndoor air quality: The quality and attributes of indoor air affecting the health and comfort building occupants. IAQ encompasses available fresh air, contaminant levels, acoustics and noise levels, lighting quality, and other factors. then you may be able to get away with not exhausting the room.
I'd recommend including a detailed document showing measured IAQ benefits of using solid ink technology.

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Green Builder Employee Consulting Firm
Dec 21 2011
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MERV 13 in residences

Has anyone submitted a residential project that has pursued the intent of the MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. 13 filters in an alternate compliance path? As far as I'm aware, there are no LEED Interpretations that deal with the difficulty residences have in meeting the MERV requirements.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jan 04 2012 Moderator

Green Builder, first question is whether you should be doing LEED for Homes since it's residential. But assuming you made the right call there, the MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. 13 requirement has always been a bugaboo for multifamily and hotels, as we note in our guidance above under the Bird's Eye View. I am not aware that this has been resolved.

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Allison Beer McKenzie Architect, Director of Sustainability, SHP Leading Design Jan 04 2012 Guest Expert 2125 Thumbs Up

I agree Tristan- I have never seen anyone successfully implement an alternative compliance path to using MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. 13 filters, except potentially in the case of electrostatic filters which seem to be potentially acceptable, but I have not seen a fast and hard example of those being accepted yet either. Reviewers have, in the past, simply said that this credit is unavailable if you can't meet the MERV 13 requirement.

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Wing Ho Jan 30 2012 Guest 9 Thumbs Up

I'm facing the same difficulties for LEED Homes which the duplex is using VRV system. We can't find any VRV product can install MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. 13 and provide sufficent static pressure...

Any suggestion is welcome.

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Dylan Connelly Senior Mechanical Engineer, Glumac Feb 01 2012 Guest Expert 141 Thumbs Up

Medium or High Static Ducted Fan Coil units (Mitsubishi, Daikin, LG, etc) have 0.6-1.0" of static on some of the larger models. To allow for the MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. 13 you could potentially build an oversized plenum box behind the unit that is big enough to reduce the FPM across the filter. Then you may have enough static.
You don't have to get every credit. That's why LEED give you many credits to choose from.

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Dario Ibarguengoitia AKF Mexico S de R L de C V
Dec 15 2011
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entryway systems for hospitals

Does anybody know wich option (roll out mats or permanent entryway systems ) is more efficient/clean for an hospital?
I asume entryway systems but if anyone had been in this situation I would apreciate if you share your experiences.
Thank you vert much

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Susan Walter Sr Project Architect, Wilmot/Sanz Dec 16 2011 Guest 1380 Thumbs Up

Dario,

We do have conversations regarding this earlier and in the v2.2 forum. The entryway systems are best if used with a floor drain. I think roll out mats are a viable option if they can be combined with the same Schools requirement for self-maintained mats.

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Keith Amann Sr. Sustainability Manager YR&G
Dec 07 2011
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Electrostatic Filtration

A project is considering using electrostatic filters in lieu of media-based filters (typically measured in MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value.). Due to the nature of this technology, these electrostatic filters are measured using Clean Air Delivery Rate (CADR), which is recognized by the FTC and EPA as a fair and objective measure of air cleaner technologies. Has anyone successfully used CADR as a way to measure effectiveness of an air filtration system as an alternative approach to meet the intent of this credit? If so, what CADR rating would demonstrate equivalent filtration effectiveness to MERV-13?

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Dylan Connelly Senior Mechanical Engineer, Glumac Dec 09 2011 Guest Expert 141 Thumbs Up

We used a combination electrostatic and media filter called Strion. That product is rated for MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. 15.
http://www.strion.com/productdetails.asp

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Renee Shirey
Nov 28 2011
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Definition of hard-lid ceiling?

I have a situation where I cannot eliminate a sloped acoustic ceiling with a gyp ceiling, and the walls do not go up to the deck (they go to the underside of trusses). To enclose the room, I would like to sheath the underside of the trusses with plywood, taping and sealing all the joints to create the hard-lid ceiling. This would be hidden by the acoustic ceiling below. Does anyone have any idea if this approach would be acceptable, and would it satisfy the definition of a hard-lid ceiling in lieu of using actual gyp? I feel like we are meeting the intent, without sacrificing the acoustics and the asthetics of the room.

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Allison Beer McKenzie Architect, Director of Sustainability, SHP Leading Design Nov 28 2011 Guest Expert 2125 Thumbs Up

I think that as long as you can show that you have at least matched if not exceeded the ability of a gyp. board hard lid ceiling to prevent air movement between spaces you should be successful with the credit.

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Shelley Duan Jr. Sustainability consultant CDML Ontario
Nov 24 2011
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Advice on acceptable approach to credit achievement for IEQc5

Is a covered exterior grate system (e.g, outside a vestibule) at all high volume entryways an acceptable approach to credit achievement for IEQc5? Any advice or guidance would be most appreciated.

Note that our project is pursuing LEED v1.0 NC certification through the CaGBC.

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BH . Nov 25 2011 Member 218 Thumbs Up

Hi Shelley,

In my opinion unfortunately not. User guide has on page 513 description of entryway systems says that:
"entryway system must extend 10 feet from the building entrance into the building interior..."

Of course you can go threw special circumstances path bacuse it might depend i.e. on project location or design of entrance overhang.

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Doyoon Kim
Nov 17 2011
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Building's occupants using a neighboring car park

We have a project were we are not building any new car parks,
The project building has its origins from late 19th century, so it doesn’t even have the potential, space or local government approval to build a car park.

So we are using a parking deck (indoor) in the neighboring building (already existing building) to provide for the tenants in our building.

My question is that, in IEQ cr. 5 there are several goals that need to be met. Everything from 10 feet long entry system to sufficient exhaust systems (in areas from printer rooms to parking decks)

Do we need to have the airflow and pressure differential in the parking deck, in this neighboring building, as described in LEED? (which is also outside of the LEED PROJECT BOUNDARY)

The neighboring building does by a chance, have the same owner as the project building, BUT we have NOT made any adjustments in the neighboring building whatsoever.

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Susann Geithner Director of Sustainability HSB Architects & Engineers
Nov 15 2011
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Alternative Compliance path for international projects

The USGBC has published a draft for additional guidance for international projects. That includes alternative compliance paths and even additional LEED online forms for international projects. This credit is included in the guideline. Find more here: http://www.leeduser.com/topic/international-projects-alternative-complia...

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EunChung Kim
Nov 08 2011
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MERV 13 Filters on both Return and Outside Air (Re-Amended?)

So it seems that as of July 2010, MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. 13 filters were only required on the outside supply air. However, according to October 2011 update, it seems that the MERV 13 Filter requirement has been revised to once again include return supply air:

"Filtration should be applied to process both return and outside air that is delivered as supply air."

Anybody else have any experience with this?

Thanks

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Dylan Connelly Senior Mechanical Engineer, Glumac Nov 08 2011 Guest Expert 141 Thumbs Up

EunChung,
It seems as though you are correct. Here is a link to the "LEED Addenda" website.
http://www.usgbc.org/DisplayPage.aspx?CMSPageID=2200#BD+C
Because this is new legislation I can only give you my interpretation:
The intention of the correction is to clarify where the MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. 13 filters should be located inside an AHU1.Air-handling units (AHUs) are mechanical indirect heating, ventilating, or air-conditioning systems in which the air is treated or handled by equipment located outside the rooms served, usually at a central location, and conveyed to and from the rooms by a fan and a system of distributing ducts. (NEEB, 1997 edition) 2.A type of heating and/or cooling distribution equipment that channels warm or cool air to different parts of a building. This process of channeling the conditioned air often involves drawing air over heating or cooling coils and forcing it from a central location through ducts or air-handling units. Air-handling units are hidden in the walls or ceilings, where they use steam or hot water to heat, or chilled water to cool the air inside the ductwork. that supplies OSA and recirculate air. The filter should not be at the OSA damper, but instead downstream of the mixing of the return air and the OSA to filter both the OSA and recirculated air.
However, an indoor fan coiling unit or heat pumpA type of heating and/or cooling equipment that draws heat into a building from outside and, during the cooling season, ejects heat from the building to the outside. Heat pumps are vapor-compression refrigeration systems whose indoor/outdoor coils are used reversibly as condensers or evaporators, depending on the need for heating or cooling. In the 2003 CBECS, specific information was collected on whether the heat pump system was a packaged unit, residential-type split system, or individual room heat pump, and whether the heat pump was air source, ground source, or water source. that is recirculating air to condition a space would not require MERV 13 if it is not pulling air directly from outside. Even if there is a DOAS providing OSA air into a mixing boxing in the back of the FCU/heat pump, it should still not require a MERV 13 filter (only MERV 8 for ASHRAE). The MERV 13 filter would be in the DOAS.

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Christi Mosher ZGF Architects
Oct 14 2011
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Future retail - walk off mat requirements

I am working on a multi-family residential project that includes some shell & core future retail space on the ground floor. The client does not want to provide permanent entry systems, because the entry configuration may change depending on the tenant. If we are meeting all other requirements, can we pursue this credit? Is it sufficient for the client to require future tenants provide a walk off mat in lease agreements? If so, how do we document?
Does it make a difference that these spaces are small compared to the overall size of the project?

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Allison Beer McKenzie Architect, Director of Sustainability, SHP Leading Design Nov 03 2011 Guest Expert 2125 Thumbs Up

Walk Off Mats along with a contract for regular cleaning have historically been acceptable for this credit. So, I think that you should have a very strong case for compliance as long as the lease language requires 10 feet of mat at each entry as well as regular cleaning. You won't know for sure until you submit the credit this way or pay for a LEED Interpretation, but based on past interpretations, you should have a high chance of acceptance. I do not believe that the size of these spaces will help or hurt you in any way, since the credit requires systems at all entries.

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BH .
Aug 30 2011
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Garage and technical rooms

Hello,

We are dealing with project with underground garage, where adjacent spaces are technical rooms. Can we transfer the air from the garage to the technical rooms to ventilate them? Do we need to keep positive pressure in these rooms if they are not occupied spacesOccupied Spaces are defined as enclosed spaces that can accommodate human activities. Occupied spaces are further classified as regularly occupied or non-regularly occupied spaces based on the duration of the occupancy, individual or multi-occupant based on the quantity of occupants, and densely or non-densely occupied spaces based upon the concentration of occupants in the space.?

Thanks for help

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Dylan Connelly Senior Mechanical Engineer, Glumac Sep 22 2011 Guest Expert 141 Thumbs Up

If the technical rooms are occupied regularly or even occasionally, I wouldn't recommend transferring air from an underground garage as a means of ventilation. Air from an underground garage (unless open on 2 sides/what code requires locally for the garage to be considered naturally ventilated) isn't fresh air.

I don't know if this question applies to IEQc5?

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Caroline O'Leary
Aug 18 2011
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Roll-out Mats

As I'm writing an e-mail to a client regarding the requirements for roll-out mats to meet LEED requirements, I'm questioning the following - if we have walk-off carpet installed over the entire Lobby floor do we really need to add a roll-out mat to boot over this space?

Opinions?

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Allison Beer McKenzie Architect, Director of Sustainability, SHP Leading Design Aug 18 2011 Guest Expert 2125 Thumbs Up

Caroline- the requirements for this credit as written are a little vague about the acceptability of walk-off carpet. However, we have had many projects where we have used it without additional roll-out mats and received the credit with no problems.

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George Abou Adal
Aug 01 2011
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Exhaust Rate of at least 0.5cfm/sq.ft

Hi All,

Assuming that one of the hazardous chemical area also has a fresh air supply (in addition to the exhaust), how do we determine if the min exhaust rate (0.5cfm/sq.ft) is achieved.

Are we supposed to compute: Exhaust (cfm) / Area (sq.ft) ?
OR
[Exhaust (cfm)- Supply (cfm)]/ Area (sq.ft)

Thanks for your clarification

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Dylan Connelly Senior Mechanical Engineer, Glumac Oct 18 2011 Guest Expert 141 Thumbs Up

Exhaust (cfm) / area (sq.ft) is correct.

For differential pressure you take into account the supply cfm.

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Regina Ng
Jul 03 2011
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MInimum Differential Pressure

Hi All,

Would like to check whether the exhaust fans for the janitor room have to be run all the time? Do they have to be operating 24 hours otherwise it will not be able to keep the janitor rooms under negative pressure since the other mechanical equipment will be shut down at the adjacent spaces?

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Allison Beer McKenzie Architect, Director of Sustainability, SHP Leading Design Jul 15 2011 Guest Expert 2125 Thumbs Up

They will likely have to run all the time in order for the pressure differential to be maintained around the clock as required by the credit.

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AMANDA CORTESE
Jun 27 2011
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PTAC MERV 13

Based on the July 2010 addendum, MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. 13 Filters are only based on Outdoor air stream. PTAC could not be used with this credit before as MERV 13 needed to be installed on return air (unless getting really fancy custom PTACs).

We are using PTACs and are wondering if MERV 13 filters would be needed on those equipments as we are filing as a natural ventilated building.
Yet, there is an outdoor air damper on the PTAC but it is NOT mechanically operated.

Thanks for your help,

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Susan Walter Sr Project Architect, Wilmot/Sanz Jul 11 2011 Guest 1380 Thumbs Up

Okay, I'll give you my thoughts to stimulate comments. Since PTACs are self contained HVAC units, how is the building naturally ventillated in your opinion? The spirit of the credit is to keep contaminants out of the interior environment. How are you doing this with the PTAC? How is this done on naturally ventillated buildings? If it were my project, I would likely consider the PTACs as HVAC equipment and look for a filter on the outdoor air. But I am not a mechanical engineer and do not know the finer points on this issue. However, if you can address how the spirit of the credit is maintained with your solution, then you can likely make a good case to the reviewers.

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AMANDA CORTESE Jul 11 2011 Member 67 Thumbs Up

(PTACs used not to be eligible for this credit, as MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. 13 were required on return air stream which was impossible considering the unit.)

Now, concerning filters required on outside air stream:
The PTAC (Packaged Terminal Air Conditioner) is conditioning the air but is not bringing outside air in the dwelling unit. Thus it is not bringing any contaminants to the environment. That's why we call out those spaces "naturally ventilated".
However, we were concerned that the manually operated damper located on the PTAC could be an issue, but it should be considered as a trickle vent more than anything else and in this case we are meeting the credit requirements.

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Kay Mariano Aug 03 2011 Member 332 Thumbs Up

Hi Amanda,

Have you already applied for your design review? I have a very similar issue regarding this credit and would want to know more about the review you got from GBCI. I hope you could share if ever. Thanks

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Nena Elise Sep 17 2011 Member 721 Thumbs Up

Please let me know too, would be very helpful information!!

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George Abou Adal
Jun 27 2011
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Negative Pressure Differential Requirement

Dear all,

One of the credit requirements is that:
"The pressure differential with the surrounding spaces must be at least
5 Pa on average and 1 Pa at a minimum when the doors to the rooms are closed."

This was deemed a bit vague by the mechanical engineer: He claimed that if the exhaust system is designed for a differential of at least 5 Pa, then why worry about the 1 Pa?

Can someone please clarify the distinction between both numbers, and what's the proper way of designing the system to achieve the requirement?

Many thanks.

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Matthew VanSweden Sustainability Coordinator, Integrated Architecture Oct 18 2011 Member 206 Thumbs Up

Anyone?

George, did you ever get any clarifications? I'm wondering what is meant by "surrounding spaces" -- does that mean the building on whole has to be positive? Or is it simple saying that when the door is open, you need a minimum of 5 Pa pressure differential.

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Teresa Farmer Sustainability Consultant Kelsan Inc
May 17 2011
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Entryway Matting

if there is carpet in the building, do you still have to have entryway matting?

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Teresa Farmer Sustainability Consultant, Kelsan Inc May 17 2011 Member 44 Thumbs Up

Please let me clarify, some of the interior entryways have carpeting, do they still need to have matting placed on top of the carpeted areas

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Allison Beer McKenzie Architect, Director of Sustainability, SHP Leading Design May 18 2011 Guest Expert 2125 Thumbs Up

Yes- if it is regular carpet you will still need some sort of entryway system. I have been successful using specially made carpet that is designed to be a walk-off surface as an entryway system, but you will definitely not be able to get by with just regular carpet.

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Michelle Teague Architect, LEED Consultant Polk Stanley Wilcox Architects
Apr 12 2011
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interior & exterior entryway systems

Can someone tell me how reviewers are treating entryway systems that are for example grate outside, mat inside for a total of 10 ft? The technical guide says, "extend 10 ft from the building entrance to the building interior" which I read as meaning it has to be all inside. As a designer I like the ability to remove some debris outside, then use a mat inside to remove moisture. Is this still acceptable in LEED 2009?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Apr 23 2011 Moderator

Michelle, you should find other discussions of this topic earlier on this forum. This approach seems to be well-accepted, provided there is proper weather protection for the outside portion, so it stays effective.

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Cindy Davis Associate Principal, Callison Architecture May 19 2011 Member 18 Thumbs Up

We have the same question on one of our projects. The 2009 BD&C Reference Guide indicates that "Entryway systems must extend 10 feet from the building entrance into the building interior" and I intrepret that they must be entirely inside the building. While this was a common practice to have this system both on the outside and inside in the past, and makes some common sense, will this be allowed given the new language. The old reference guide was not as explicit on location of the entryway system as the new reference guide. I'm not seeing anything posted yet concerning this in the new CIRs. Any advice?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. May 19 2011 Moderator

Cindy, it's my understanding that a weather-protected exterior entryway is equally allowed in 2009 and v2.2.

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ZEB Tech singapore ESD Consultancy ZEB-Technology Pte Ltd
Mar 03 2011
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MERV Filter during and after Test run

Regarding the MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. filter, I had advised the M&E the LEED Requirements and he has replied as "During the test run period (80days), the MERV 8 will be installed on the AHU1.Air-handling units (AHUs) are mechanical indirect heating, ventilating, or air-conditioning systems in which the air is treated or handled by equipment located outside the rooms served, usually at a central location, and conveyed to and from the rooms by a fan and a system of distributing ducts. (NEEB, 1997 edition) 2.A type of heating and/or cooling distribution equipment that channels warm or cool air to different parts of a building. This process of channeling the conditioned air often involves drawing air over heating or cooling coils and forcing it from a central location through ducts or air-handling units. Air-handling units are hidden in the walls or ceilings, where they use steam or hot water to heat, or chilled water to cool the air inside the ductwork., PAH & VRF Indoor Unit. After test run, new MERV 8 and MERV 13 will be installed on the AHU, PAH & VRF Indoor Unit to filter
the return air and outside air". is ok if MERV 13 is not provided during the test run period? Kindly advice.

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Allison Beer McKenzie Architect, Director of Sustainability, SHP Leading Design Mar 03 2011 Guest Expert 2125 Thumbs Up

On the form for this credit, you will have to check a box that says: "Supply air systems, including both outside air and return air delivered as supply, serving all regularly occupied areas are sized to accommodate filtration media with a MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. rating of 13 or better. New filtration media which meet this MERV rating will be installed prior to occupancy." The strategy you are describing does not seem to be in line with honestly checking this box on the form, so I would recommend that you make sure the MERV 13 filters are installed before building occupancy.

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Susan Walter Sr Project Architect Wilmot/Sanz
Feb 10 2011
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Owner maintained carpet entry systems

I have an in patient Hospital project and we are providing roof gardens and access to those gardens. Hooray for direct access to nature! My question in on the entryway systems. We want to encourage people to go outside so these are regularly used entries. Using dirt trapping entry systems in a patient care unit would be unacceptable for infection control so we are looking into carpeted mat systems. I can get the owner to agree to the weekly maintenance but since they clean their own buildings, could I get an exception in line with the schools exception? For the record, we're staying with NC and not moving this project to HC for a variety of reasons.

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David Hubka GROUP Leader, E3 GROUP Mar 04 2011 Guest Expert 1402 Thumbs Up

Per LEED interpretation inquiry number 2130 dated 4-25-2008:
...meeting the requirements for weekly cleaning of roll-up walk-off mats by internal maintenance staff, in lieu of an outside contracted service, is acceptable.

This ruling however does not apply to LEED NC 2009.

Can anyone tell me why CIRs of past rating systems do not apply to the new rating systems even when the credit intent and language has not changed????

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Regina Ng
Jan 25 2011
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Re: MERV 13 filter

There had been many comments on this previously. Just want to confirm that I understand the requirement correctly:

1) So based on the July 2010 addendum, MERVMinimum efficiency reporting value. 13 filter is required only on the outdoor air stream. So I only need to put MERV 13 filters for the primary air handling unit which only takes in outdoor air.

2) MERV 6 and above is still required for all other AHUs and FCUs according to ASHRAE 62.1.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Feb 07 2011 Moderator

Regina, you've got it right.

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Susan Walter Sr Project Architect Wilmot/Sanz
Jan 05 2011
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No regular exterior entryways

Our project is the second phase of a four phase master plan for a hospital campus. The first phase MOB was not required to be LEED certified. The rest of the phases will be LEED certified. Generically, phases one, two and three are all in a row and a concourse will link all three and there is a guest parking garage one one end of the MOB (not connected directly) and an employee parking garage on the other end. Until phase 3 is built and becomes the main hospital entry, patients to our phase 2 cancer center will enter through the phase one building which does not have permanent entryways. The regular entry into phase 2 is internal - no direct exterior access, ever. Some patients will always enter through phase 1 due to the parking garage, others will be dropped off at the phase 3 drop off. Will we be required to install a permanent entryway system to achieve this credit or can we claim the phase 3 entry as future? The distance from the phase one building entrance to the entry of the cancer center is 75 feet long. My inclination is that we will be denied due to the use of the phase 1 building. But any pollutants will be in phase 1 and shouldn't enter phase 2 due to the distance and these buildings are not linked anyway mechanically, so the spirit is met for phase two. Has anyone run into a similar situation?

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Allison Beer McKenzie Architect, Director of Sustainability, SHP Leading Design Jan 10 2011 Guest Expert 2125 Thumbs Up

I think that you can be successful on this credit if you write a very good narrative and perhaps do a diagram that demonstrates that people will not enter the building you are working on directly. However, is there a problem with providing entry way systems in your phase just in case people do end up using those doors regularly?

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Susan Walter Sr Project Architect, Wilmot/Sanz Jan 10 2011 Guest 1380 Thumbs Up

Thanks! I'll let you all know if we are successful with the narrative. There are multiple problems with locating mats inside the cancer center. One is the sudden appearance of a dirt collecting floor system inside a hospital and the second is phasing and the slight changing of the connecting corridor over time.

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Christopher Schwurack Apr 07 2011 Member 60 Thumbs Up

I know I am a little late, but I did find a LEED Interpretation that seems to deal with this issue. It is #5266 in the LEED Interpretations database on the USGBC website.

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Susan Walter Sr Project Architect, Wilmot/Sanz May 27 2011 Guest 1380 Thumbs Up

I saw that but it seemed like the first entry had entry grilles and then you did not need them into the project building. Here we have an entry building that does not have entry grilles and a project building that also does not have entry grilles.

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George Abou Adal
Jan 05 2011
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Permanent entryways in the parking

Dear all,

I have a shopping mall with a couple of basement floors used as car parking.

Can someone please verify whether permanent entryway systems are required at these basements, and if there are cases where they are not required?

Thanks!

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Allison Beer McKenzie Architect, Director of Sustainability, SHP Leading Design Jan 10 2011 Guest Expert 2125 Thumbs Up

George- are there any man doors into the basement floors? If so, these may require entryway systems. Also, I would anticipate putting entryway systems in any areas where people will be moving from the garage area to the mall area as this is essentially an exterior condition.

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Allison Beer McKenzie Architect, Director of Sustainability, SHP Leading Design Jan 10 2011 Guest Expert 2125 Thumbs Up

George- are there any man doors into the basement floors? If so, these may require entryway systems. Also, I would anticipate putting entryway systems in any areas where people will be moving from the garage area to the mall area as this is essentially an exterior condition.

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George Abou Adal Jan 10 2011 Member 2230 Thumbs Up

Yes Allison, there are main doors. In fact, most of the visitors will enter the mall through the basement floors.

Many thanks!

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Norma Rosowski Sustainability Consultant The Beck Group
Dec 27 2010
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entryway mats

We have an existing building that we are renovating and pursuing LEED certification. The vestibule is not big enough to accommodate the required length of the entryway mat. If we make the entrymat as big as we can (the entire vestibule) is that sufficient due to existing building conditions?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 28 2010 Moderator

You could try to submit it, or request a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide, but I have not heard of the 10-foot requirement being relaxed for existing building or other circumstances. Not all credits work for all projects, as they say.

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Christopher Schwurack Apr 07 2011 Member 60 Thumbs Up

I am working on a project with the same issue. Our vestibules only have 6' of travel from one set to another. Would it be possible to start the walk-off mat after you pass through the second set of doors that actually lead into the building or is LEED pretty specific that the walk off mat must occur upon "immediate" entry to the building?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Apr 23 2011 Moderator

Christopher, there is a not a requirement limiting the walkoff mat to the vestibule area. However, you would need to make sure that anyone walking in would get 10 feet of trackoff in their main line of travel—so if they could enter the doors and then veer to the left or right and miss the mat, you would need to make it wider.

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Stephanie Guy
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Calculating the average pressure differential

When exhausting spaces, you are required to exhaust at a rate of 0.5 cfm/sf and maintain an average pressure differential with surrounding spaces of 5 Pa and 1Pa at a minimum when the doors to the rooms are closed. The reference guide states that there are no calculations required for this credit. However, the form asks you input values for the average and minimum pressure differential. How do you calculate this average pressure differential?

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Allison Beer McKenzie Architect, Director of Sustainability, SHP Leading Design Dec 08 2010 Guest Expert 2125 Thumbs Up

Yes- I would say they are looking for average over time which factors in different occupancy schedules and system modes. I would think that minimum would occur at times when the system is setback.

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Sarah Meyer Dec 08 2010 Member 37 Thumbs Up

I have used an ASHRAE equation for this. See 2007 HVAC Applications handbook, page 52.5, eqn 8. Given airflow (room exhaust) and flow area (door undercut or other inlet), you can calculate differential pressure.

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Robert Shapero Jan 07 2011 Guest 37 Thumbs Up

I am also confused on this credit. It still doesnt seem like anyone knows exactly what LEED is looking for pertaining to Average Pressure Differential and Minimum Pressure Differential (with doors closed) and how to calculate the values.

Any thoughts on this?

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George Abou Adal Apr 18 2011 Member 2230 Thumbs Up

In one our projects, the M&E team have used the ASHRAE equation Sarah is referring to (i.e. Q= 776CA √2∆P/p).

I am guessing that the equation above gives us the average pressure differential. But how can we get the minimum pressure differential?

Anybody ?

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Rebekah Burke Director of Sustainable Design, Clark Nexsen May 25 2011 Member 44 Thumbs Up

Has anyone used the ASHRAE Applications equation to calculate the average pressure differential and had it approved by USGBC? I think Eqn 9 in the 2007 ASHRAE applications (Q=2610*A*√∆P) is appropriate. I've found that this equation corresponds to Figure 2.2 (Relationship between Airflow Offsets, Differential Pressure, and Effective Leakage Area) of the Health Facility Commissioning Guidelines book.

Also, my systems are either running continuously, or they are off, so I am assuming my minimum pressure differential equals the average pressure differential. Has anyone filled out the form to show that average pressure differential and minimum pressure differential are the same, and had it approved by USGBC?

Other thoughts for how to calcule the minimum pressure differential would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Dylan Connelly Senior Mechanical Engineer, Glumac Oct 18 2011 Guest Expert 141 Thumbs Up

The ASHRAE equation above is for Pressure (∆P) in "Inches of water." The equation for pressure in PA would be:

Q=165.5*A*√∆P

Here is an example scenario:

3 foot wide closed door with a 0.5" undercut
A=0.125 ft
∆P=5
Solve for Q (Air Flow in CFM)

Q=165.5*0.125*√5 = 46.3 CFM

In order to ensure this room has a negative 5 PA differential pressure to an adjacent space you need to have roughly 50 CFM exhaust (Exhaust CFM - Supply CFM). Area of the room is irrelevant for this equation but for LEED and local building codes you may also need to ensure that you have at least 0.5 CFM/SF exhaust.

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Christian Lich LEED AP ARCADIS Deutschland GmbH
Oct 27 2010
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Do charging rooms for fork lifts fall under this credit?

We have a warehouse / distribution center we would like to certify. There is a charging room for the fork lifts (and therefore a unlikely but possible risk of hydrogen production). Do you think we should deal with the charging room like with a copying and printing room? Thanks for your help!

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