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May be the only legal option
Interior smoking is not allowed in many building types, and for those projects, this prerequisite should be easy and not add costs. It may even be the only legal option. To comply, you may need to establish a nonsmoking policy in and around the building (including entrances and balconies), and install appropriate signage.
If smoking is allowed, stringent measures needed
Multifamily residences and hotels may feel compelled to allow smoking in some or all units, and some projects, like airports, have designated smoking rooms. In these cases, stringent measures will be needed to stop movement of smoke from smoking to nonsmoking areas. These measures include air barriers between units, negative air pressure in smoking areas, separate exhaust systems, and blower-door testing...
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94 Comments
Electric Cigarettes
Dear all,
one of our major clients set an interesting question concerning electronic cigarettes. In the building - we already certified - smoking is not allowed, but could be electronic cigarettes? They are emitting no ETSEnvironmental tobacco smoke (ETS), or secondhand smoke, consists of airborne particles emitted from the burning end of cigarettes, pipes, and cigars, and is exhaled by smokers. These particles contain about 4,000 compounds, up to 50 of which are known to cause cancer. so the intent of the credit seems to be met.
Do you support this estimation?
Andreas
PS: ... by mistake I posted this request under IEQp1 before
EQp2 (ETS control) - use of air curtain
Does anyone know if air curtains have been allowed by USGBC to prevent tobacco smoke entering a building? Our client would like to utilise an air curtain between the smoking area on an external balcony and the internal lobby of a cinema. Unfortunately the balcony is not large enough to allow the 25 foot distance.
Any thoughts/experience?
Meike, here are two other LEEDuser forum discussions on air curtains.
I don't know if GBCI has ever allowed this, but I doubt it. I don't see air curtains as the kind of dependable, permanent block to smoking that the credit is looking for.
Fire Exits, with no exterior handles
Are these an 'primary or secondary entry'?
Blower door test form
Hi, does anyone know where I can find the ‘’Certificate of Field Verification and Diagnostic Testing’’ that needs to be filled out for each blower door testA blower door test gives an overall value for airtightness of a space, and can help identify air leaks. The testing unit consists of a calibrated fan that is sealed onto the unit entrance. The fan creates a continuous flow of pressure into the unit (or out of the unit when using theatrical fog to locate leaks). Devices detect the rate of pressure retention and loss due to possible air leaks in the construction. that is performed, as indicated in ‘’4 Compliance Through Quality Construction’’? Essentially, I’m looking for the document that needs to be submitted which qualifies as ‘’results of the blower door testing.’’ Thank you.
Alternative Compliance path for international projects
The USGBC has published a draft for additional guidance for international projects. That includes alternative compliance paths and even additional LEED online forms for international projects. This credit is included in the guideline. Find more here: http://www.leeduser.com/topic/international-projects-alternative-complia...
blower-door testing for hotel rooms with interior brick walls?
we have a hospitality project in south africa where a number of rooms will be (quietly) designated smoking rooms. each unit is well insulated and sealed off from each other through brick-and-mortar walls finished with plaster/render. the units will be separately ventilated and we are weather-stripping the doors, but do we still have to do a blower door testA blower door test gives an overall value for airtightness of a space, and can help identify air leaks. The testing unit consists of a calibrated fan that is sealed onto the unit entrance. The fan creates a continuous flow of pressure into the unit (or out of the unit when using theatrical fog to locate leaks). Devices detect the rate of pressure retention and loss due to possible air leaks in the construction. given that the construction technology is very different from what is assumed standard practice in the US/North America?
Jutta, you could try in a narrative to justify not doing the blower door tests, but I doubt it would work. That construction method sounds fine, but it can be surprising how details can be overlooked during construction and not turn out as expected. That's what the testing is all about.
Thanks Tristan, and do agree with you.
prior to constructing the actual building we are building a couple of 'mock-up' rooms to test a number of design and construction components plus interior fit-out and will be 'test-driving' some of the LEED requirements and plans as well. We will have blower-door testing carried out on these rooms to gauge performance and then take a decision from there. my hunch is, though, that we will recommend to test all the smoking rooms regardless, to - as you say - meet the actual intent of the test!
Jutta,
I submitted a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide on this matter. I have VST walls, cement-bound particle boards, which are like formwork that remain in the building. The prefabricated elements are filled on-site with self-compacting concrete. One of the advantages with VST walls is that the construction becomes extremely airtight. There are no gaps in between walls or apartments. I had proposed testing six out of 224 apartments, providing the results were indeed well under the limit. Results are so far ten times better than required. But my CIR was denied. I have to do all the Blower Door testings, one out of seven apartments (at least). This will be a large cost for my project that will not improve air tightness. I also considered arguing that all apartments in my country, according to law, have to withstand fire for at least 60 minutes (EI60) without any smoke leaking between apartments, but have not tried this.
Maria, thanks very much for this post! this is very valuable information. luckily we only have a limited number of smoking rooms in the project, which is otherwise a non-smoking building, and we will budget for blower-door testing for all smoking rooms.
What strikes me again, however, how critical it is that USGBC is beginning to look at differing approaches to LEED prereq/credit compliance and i am glad that considerable attention is being paid to international projects and ACPs. Deon Glaser from USGBC just yesterday commented on a discussion in LEEDuser on the international projects page (referenced in Susann Geithner's post above), where she says "We are currently working on creating a feedback form so that we get input from practitioners like you on what is working with these ACPs and what we need to improve going forward." So this will be worth watching and contributing to!
ANTE Room
I'd like to know if I can fulfill the prerequisite, without constructing an ANTEROOM? and if a double door can be an acceptable alternative or not?
thanks
An ante room is not required but recommended. If you can achieve the pressure difference without that and meet the other requirements than you are fine.
Smoking within 25 feet
We have a possible LEED project for psychiatric patients that have committed a crime. In this building we also have holding cells for patient waiting for trial. In these rooms smoking is prohibited. Since the individual is under federal custody and cannot leave the cell it is design with a balcony where the patient can get fresh air, and also smoke if desired. The requirement of smoking forbidden within 25 feet can therefore not be met. Do anyone have similar experience of special circumstances like this or an opinion if it would be possible to LEED-certify.
Veronika, this is a long shot, but I'm wondering if the balcony is within 25 feet of any other openings, besides the door holding cell?
Veronika,
You'll want to read the LEED HC guidelines on this and ask to be compliant with Option 2. This states that for resident smoking (inpatient psych qualify) where the regulations say you can't take smoking away from the patient, locate smoking balconies 50 feet from entries. The door out there is gasketed and there are other requirements.
Upload Blower Door test results in design stage?
IEQp2 is a design prerequisite. For residential units, (smoking allowed), we have to upload blower door testA blower door test gives an overall value for airtightness of a space, and can help identify air leaks. The testing unit consists of a calibrated fan that is sealed onto the unit entrance. The fan creates a continuous flow of pressure into the unit (or out of the unit when using theatrical fog to locate leaks). Devices detect the rate of pressure retention and loss due to possible air leaks in the construction. results. Since it is in design stage, there is yet nothing to perform testing on. Do I write in special circumstances that I will upload results as soon as there are any, and submit at construction stage?
We did this before and submitted in design phase. The reviewer however does not approve it until you have the results. In our case it stated that our approach is ok, but we should submit the prerequ in construction review, which we do.
Thank you Susann!
We will have recieved a few results before we submit, but from all. So we will submit what we have and send in the rest at Construction Submittal. Apartments will be finished and moved in at different times (about once a month), during more than a year. It's a large building, a whole block.
ETS Req. rental apartment building by % Smoking % No Smoking
Can an apartment rental project meet the requirement of IEQp2 if they designate a percentage of rental apartments as smoking?
Smoking rates are declining approximately 20% in US according to WEB MD.
The project would not want to turn away a potential tenent. If the project dedicated 30% of the total number of units as Smoking Units and had different tenant agreements for each type of unit documenting the No Smoking Unit and a Smoking Unit. Could the project provide the weather stripping and the 1/7 blower door testing protocol for just those units and still meet the intent?
Non Smokers could move into a smoking unit if they chose or if that was all that was available.
If all of the smoking units were leased, smokers could not move into a Non Smoking Unit.
Since an building that allows smoking can meet the prerequisite by restricting smoking to designated smoking rooms that meet the ventilation and air tightness requirements, it sounds reasonable to designate specific units as smoking units. You might consider zoning the smoking units to a discreet part of the building - I imagine a reviewer would want to see that the exhaust from these units is suficiently far from any non-smoking unit windows and air intakes to prevent re-circulation. In addition to the tenant agreements, you might also want permanent signage that identifies the smoking and non-smoking areas. Since this is a pre-req, you might want to do a CIR to know for sure.
blower tests in mexico
Hi, we need to make a blower door testA blower door test gives an overall value for airtightness of a space, and can help identify air leaks. The testing unit consists of a calibrated fan that is sealed onto the unit entrance. The fan creates a continuous flow of pressure into the unit (or out of the unit when using theatrical fog to locate leaks). Devices detect the rate of pressure retention and loss due to possible air leaks in the construction. for a Hampton Inn Hotel in Ciudad del Carmen, Mexico. No one in Mexico will do it for us. Anyone knows someone in the US who can do it for us here?
Campuswide and Multi Building Documentation
Does anyone have experience demonstrating compliance for campuswide or multiple buildings? We would like to document this credit for campuswide submission. The campus has a policy thta bans smoking in all buildings and 30 feet beyond any entry points, windows, intakes, etc. It does not seem practical to draw a no-smoking perimeter line around over a hundred buldings on a campus. Are there known alternative submission guidelines to deal with this issue?
Hi Brian,
Check the 2010 AGMBC. We have documented several campus credits, and they routinely have basically the same requirements just using the campus-wide boundary in lieu of your LEED project boundary.
This credit is listed as viable for Option 1. Documentation required is noted as evidence of signage communicating the exterior smoking policy for entire campus. And yes, you would have to use a campus boundary rather than your project's LEED boundary.
Please note there is a new wrinkle on that credit form that seems to indicate with a required upload that you need to provide designated smoking areas if you are not prohibiting smoking entirely on your site. I am currently querying that issue with GBCI and don't have a response yet.
Michelle, have you heard back from the GBCI regarding the "wrinkle" you mentioned? I seem to be ecountering the same thing. Our project has no operable windows (for reasons of security) and no air intakes within 25' of the exterior ground plane, so we saw no need to designate any smoking areas on the site. And yet.
Thanks!
case 2. Residential and Hospital Projects Only - Requirements
Hi, I have a question regarding case 2. Residential and Hospital Projects Only.
In the requirement for the prerequiset 8 bullets are listed that needs to be met. The four first ones are general and the following four are talking about residential units. Does the last four also comply on a hospital project?
Thanks /Veronika
Veronika, the word is "hospitality," which refers not to healthcare hospitals, but to hotels.
Great, thank you!
We consider our inpatients as residential, does these requirements apply on our project in that case?
/Veronika
Residential Units with Natural Ventilation
Hello,
I have two questions:
1) We have a residential multi-unit project with approximately 100 units. All the individual units are naturally ventilated with openable windows. (ie. no HVAC ventilation system) What are the ETSEnvironmental tobacco smoke (ETS), or secondhand smoke, consists of airborne particles emitted from the burning end of cigarettes, pipes, and cigars, and is exhaled by smokers. These particles contain about 4,000 compounds, up to 50 of which are known to cause cancer. requirements in this case? Will sealing the exterior doors of the units and prohibit smoking in the corridors suffice the requirements?
2) I do not understand the blower door testA blower door test gives an overall value for airtightness of a space, and can help identify air leaks. The testing unit consists of a calibrated fan that is sealed onto the unit entrance. The fan creates a continuous flow of pressure into the unit (or out of the unit when using theatrical fog to locate leaks). Devices detect the rate of pressure retention and loss due to possible air leaks in the construction. requirement. The blower door test is usually done to find the leakage rateThe speed at which an appliance loses refrigerant, measured between refrigerant charges or over 12 months, whichever is shorter. The leakage rate is expressed in terms of the percentage of the appliance's full charge that would be lost over a 12-month period if the rate stabilized. (EPA Clean Air Act, Title VI, Rule 608). of a unit for energy efficiency purposes. Typically the test equipment is installed on the exterior door blowing air into the residential unit to find leakage points on the exterior walls and windows. In testing for the ETS, my understanding is that we would like to prevent leakage to the corridors so the test equipment cannot be installed on the exterior door. Then it would make sense to install it in one of the interior doors blowing air into the zone that has the exterior door... But what if the corridor is pressurized and we have not installed door sweeps for ventilation purposes. In that case the blower door test will fail... So this is quite confusing. Can anyone help? Where should we install the blower door test equipment and to measure what exactly?
Thanks.
Re: 1) Unless smoking is prohibited in the whole building, which some rental properties have done, each unit is considered a "smoking room" and has to meet the credit requirements for door sweeps, sealing of plumbing, HVAC, and electrical penetrations in the walls, dedicated direct exhaust for each unit and verification with blower door testing.
Yes, prohibiting smoking in all common areas will comply if smoking is also prohibited on any exterior balconies or decks that are w/in 25' of an operable window or intake vent, which is probably true of most exterior decks.
2) The blower door test is to verify that smoke will not migrate from unit to unit -which can certainly happen. This can be challenging to prevent, especially in metal stud framed construction. For party walls between units, make sure electrical outlets and other penetrations don't share a stud cavity or other chase that allows air to move between units. Extra effort may be needed to instruct and supervise that sub contractors and installers are providing adequate air sealing at all penetrations, fixtures, etc. Pocket doors can be problematic; gaskets may be needed on fixture, outlet and switch covers, etc.
In our experience, the blower door has usually been set up at the unit entry door. I believe it's acceptable to cover with plastic & tape the exterior windows and kitchen & bath vent fans since these are connected to the outside and not to other units, but you'll want to verify that. The test is thus determining the air leakage in and out of the unit through the boundary it shares with other units, which is a good indicator of ETS transmission between units.
Hope that helps!
ETS control in a Casino???
I am evaluating a hospitality project which includes a casino. The Casino manager is not interested on prohibiting Cigarette Smoking, so I am definitely evaluating the best strategy to handle the Casino Area which represents about 1/5 of the total project area.
Until now my idea is not to include the Casino within the LEED boundary as the design allows it, but i will lose important area for my open space, if not, have the Casino as a separate retail. The casino wont be operated by the Hotel flag, it will be operated by a third party. recommendations? Any strategy to comply with LEED allowing smoking inside the Casino???
I had asked about this in the NCv2.2 prereq. There it was possible but with v2009 and the MPR's it is no longer possible. The building has to be complete and whole and any tenants for a C&S project would have to comply with this prereq.
Here is some further reading. And look up definitions for entirety and physically distinct in the glossary at the end. http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=6473
designated smoking areas
If you select the option that smoking is prohibited within 25' of the building, LEED Online asks you to indicate where smoking is allowed. Are they simply asking you to upload a site plan that shows the 25' perimeter around the building or do you actually need to create a designated smoking area on the property that is marked by signage?
Annette, I don't see that the LEED Online form asks for that. Can you describe more specifically where you are seeing that? (Sample forms can be downloaded directly from our Doc Toolkit above, btw.)
The online template asks for the following info: "A site plan/map showing the location of the designated outdoor smoking/nonsmoking areas is required to document
compliance."
If you'd like to allow people to smoke anywhere on the site, as long as it is 25 feet away from the building, this will meet the intent of the prerequisite. This area "anywhere on site except within 25 feet from the building" is also defined as a "designated smoking area" even though it not a nice little smoking box. Be sure to communicate this area to building occupants through signage.
Also, speaking from experience, the 25 feet is not a magic number. . . Environmental Tobacco Smoke may still find it's way into the building.
Hope this helps.
Hi Tristan, It only appears when you click on the option for "Smoking is prohibited within 25 feet..." then after owner signature the next line states: "A site plan/map showing the location of the designated outdoor smoking areas is required to document compliance." We got a comment from the reviewers that we didn't indicate where the designated smoking areas are and I'm not quite sure what they want.
David, seems we replied at the same time. Are you saying that we should have signage stating, "smoking allowed beyond this point" or something to that effect to indicate where the smoking area is? I can't say I've ever seen that.
Annette, thanks for clarifying, I somehow missed that. Ideally you'd prohibit smoking onsite and that would make thing simpler, but as David says either the boundary or a designated area should meet the documentation requirements here.
I've seen project teams spray paint "no smoking within 25 feet of building" on the pavement 25 feet away from every building entrance. This strategy has been approved by LEED project reviewers.
As a bonus this paint is not used on the inside of the building so it is not required to comply with IEC Credit 4.2, however we suggest project teams meet the VOC content requirements for all items. . . "transform the market" type attitude.
We are having the same issue with review comments asking for designated smoking areas. My newest project is in the early stages for a municipality. They do not believe they can prohibit smoking on the property as a legal issue, though WA state already prohibits smoking within 25' of openings by law. You would think State law would be more than adequate.
However, since this is a prerequisite, we need to be sure. Your comment, David, is the first that I have seen indicating that a boundary radius will work for this purpose. Have you been through review successfully with this approach? And if so, using standard non-smoking signage?
Has anyone had a successful solution to this? We're running into the same comment now.
Signage requirements
Our project is located in New York City, which bans smoking in public buildings. The building occupies the entire site footprint, going right to the property line. In this case, does LEED still require signage regarding smoking policy?
I think that signage will still be required regardless of the local code to (1) prohibit smoking on the entire property and (2) to communicate that smoking is prohibited within 25ft of the entryways. If the owner feels strongly that signage is not necessary, you could submit for the preliminary review with an explanation of the special circumstances and see what comes back. The signage could always be added prior to the submission for the final review.
Measurement Protocol
Is there any protocol for a scenario where there are two buildings joined by an indoor atrium space? One building prohibits smoking, the LEED project, and the adjacent building does not. There are no doors between the atrium and our LEED building; both buildings open up to this indoor atrium. How can we measure the pressure differential under Option 2 if we do not have doors to close?
To clarify, we do have the proper pressurization to prevent smoke from entering our building. It is just a matter of how do we measure, since the reference guide stipulates the doors must be closed. It assumes there are doors to close.
I don't think there is a protocol for this, no. I think you would need to come up with something on your own (with technical support) that seems as rigorous as possible, and propose it to GBCI. Since this is a prerequisite, a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide might be a worthwhile investment.
School with Total Ban...How many signs?
We have a total ban policy.
I've taken ASHRAE 62.1's 25mm (1") minimum text size as the Norm for No Smoking Signs requirement (even though the requirement is for "smoking allowed" signs). I've not found anything for the logos.
Do I need no smoking signs at all main entrances to the site boundry only, or do I need additional signage at the building main entrances also?
It's so difficalt to think like the smoking public.
Jean, as far as LEED goes I would say you have quite a bit of discretion to pick a number of signs that seems appropriate. So I would focus on what seems needed for the project and your intended audience of smokers.
I would be interested to know if you provided the signs only at the vehicle entrances, or if you included them at pedestrian "entrances" - such as a sidewalk at a corner of the site, not close to a vehicle entrance.
There is no on-site parking within the project boundry on this project. Parents must park on the public road by the curb. I have signs at enterances onto the property and at building entrances.
Weather Stripping AND/OR Pressurization in Residential
In an apartment building that allows smoking in the residential units, does the project team need to weather strip all corridor entries AND prove positive pressure in the corridors? Or does one or the other suffice (assuming that you have met all other requirements for Case 2)?
Josie, one or the other would suffice in this case. If the common hallways are pressurized with respect to the residential units, then weather-stripping of the doors of residential units leading to common hallways is not required. Alternatively, if you weather-strip all doors of residential units leading to common hallways, you do not need to prove positive pressure of the common hallways.
Blower Door Test Quantity in Residential Buildings
I'm trying to find out how many blower door tests are required in a 4-story residential building with appr. 90 units. Do I need to perform a test in EACH unit or just a sample? If sampling, what is the frequency?
I would appreciate some guidance on this. Thank you!
Patrik, the sampling methodology is described in the California Residential Manual that is referenced in this prerequisite. You would be required to test 1 per every 7 "like" units. I.e., At a minimum and if all 90 units are identical, you'd have to perform testing of 13 units. It is up to the project team and testing agent to identify the variations in unit types and ultimately how many tests are required, based on the sampling methodology described above.
ETS and Ventilation Requirements for Residential Projects
Case 1, Option 2 states that at a minimum, the smoking room must be directly exhausted to the outdoors, away from air intakes and building entry paths, with no recirculation of ETSEnvironmental tobacco smoke (ETS), or secondhand smoke, consists of airborne particles emitted from the burning end of cigarettes, pipes, and cigars, and is exhaled by smokers. These particles contain about 4,000 compounds, up to 50 of which are known to cause cancer.-containing air to nonsmoking areas. However, there is no similar requirements under Case 2, which doesn't seem right. What good is the weather stripping, penetration sealing, and blower door testing if there's no requirement to isolate the ventilation system and protect the non-smoking spaces from smoke coming from the air returns in the smoking rooms? What am I missing?
I hadn't thought about it from this perspective, but now that I do, I agree with you that something obvious is going unstated.
It does seem like the point is fairly academic, though—IF you're right and there's no isolation requirement, who would do that?
Hopefully nobody would actually do that, but a barracks lawyer might use that omission to make a case for cheaper HVAC in a residential building. The implementation section doesn't seem to differentiate between residential and non-residential projects, so I'm thinking it was either an oversight in the requirements section, or left "flexible" on purpose. Some situations won't meet the intent even if they meet the letter anyway. Take a hotel, for example, where rooms on the second floor are designated smoking, and rooms on the third floor are not. The rooms in my example (typical worker bee hotel) each have their own PTAC which pulls in and exhausts air. The second and third floor units are within less than 25 feet of each other, so someone can effectively smoke within 25 feet of an air intake. While the smoke is being exhausted to the outside, in accordance with the requirements of case 1, option 2, it can be pulled right back in. There's no requirement to exhaust the smoke anywhere in particular, the requirement just says "to the outdoors". Since the people smoking are inside the building, the restriction on exterior smoking areas being at least 25 feet away from entries, outdoor air intakes, and operable windows doesn't provide any protection.
Residential buildings typically do not have return air systems that are shared between separate living units.
We have talked this through for a project including a hotel with a central air conditioning system. The advise we got from the GBCI is to also have these systems separate from "non-smoking" systems. But also we have a mixed use building with hotel, office, retail. So we are required to do that overall for the building.
HERS Rater
Hello,
I wanted to ask if I perform a Door Blower Test with a HERS Rater will it be acceptable by the USGBC to comply with my ETSEnvironmental tobacco smoke (ETS), or secondhand smoke, consists of airborne particles emitted from the burning end of cigarettes, pipes, and cigars, and is exhaled by smokers. These particles contain about 4,000 compounds, up to 50 of which are known to cause cancer. Pre-Requisite.
Thanks in advance.
Yes, USGBC doesn't stipulate who can do the blower door testA blower door test gives an overall value for airtightness of a space, and can help identify air leaks. The testing unit consists of a calibrated fan that is sealed onto the unit entrance. The fan creates a continuous flow of pressure into the unit (or out of the unit when using theatrical fog to locate leaks). Devices detect the rate of pressure retention and loss due to possible air leaks in the construction., only the standard that's used to do it.
Smoking area in retail area
The project is registered under LEED for Core & Shell version 2.0, the project size is as follows: Total Project Size (Gross sf) 846.113,72 sqft, Commercial Office 402.969,90 sqft, Retail 50.407,39 sqft, and Parking 392.736,43 sqft. It is located in Insurgentes avenue, one of Mexico City’s main streets, and the longest in the city. The project’s retail zone will include restaurants and a food court, both with open spaces where smoking is to be permitted according to local law. Mexico City Nonsmoker’s Health Protection Act (under chapter 2nd, section 14) states that “In the buildings, commercial establishments (restaurants and bars), hospitals, industrial and education facilities, as well as in Mexico City’s independent and government agencies, which include open areas, smoking is permitted in such areas without any restrictions, provided that the smoke derived from tobacco does not invade any closed public spaces. Notwithstanding version 2.0 of LEED for Core & Shell does not mention the possibility for applying local smoking laws in a building project, according to LEED for Core & Shell version 3.0 it is possible to establish a smoker’s program specific to a project according to local laws.
Retail (restaurants and food court):
1. Restaurant 1, located in level 1, has a total surface area of 3.035,423 sqft., distributed in 2 levels. In the upper area (level 2) there is an open terrace with tables both under and over 25 ft away from the entrance, where, according to Mexico City law, smoking is permitted.
2. Restaurant 2, located in level 1, has a total surface area of 1603,823 sqft. The restaurant has both a closed area, and an open terrace. People attending this restaurant will be able to smoke in the terrace according to local law. However, there is an emergency exit door located less than 25 ft away from the restaurant’s smoking area.
3. Also located in level 1, the food court has a total surface area of 3595,146 sqft. Next to the food court entrance, but at a distance of 25ft, there is also a smoking area, with some tables available.
Regarding points 1 and 2, Mexico City Nonsmoker’s Health Protection act allows people to smoke in the restaurant’s open spaces, as indicated above. Is this valid to comply with LEED for Core & Shell version 2.0 for this particular project? And regarding to point 2 as well, is it possible to locate a smoking area less than 25ft away from an emergency exit door (since it is only for emergency and service use only)?
Gabriel, as far as I know LEED does not allow you to establish a smoker's program according to local laws. Is that specific to a Mexican version of LEED?
In Mexico there is a law of no smoking inside the buildings, the solution is to comply the project to distance the 25 ft by LEED, in addition we are considering a ante room with a double access and a negative pressure to block the entry of contaminated air into retail areas.
Is this a correct solution?
Yes, although I'm not sure what the purpose of the anteroom is, if you are enforcing no smoking in the buildings and within 25 feet of all entrances.
The ante room are applied to that outdoor spaces (balconies) do not meet distance of 25 ft.
Technical solution is correct?
So, you'd basically be following Option 2, Case 1, and have designated smoking areas on balconies.
I would anticipate that this would work, if ALL openings to the indoors get this negative pressure treatment, and if these outdoor areas are treated like designated smoking areas that occupants aren't compelled to use. For example, they are not main entrances that people must go through to get in. This situation is not anticipated by the credit language, so I would be prepared to document very well that it meets the credit intent.
No smoking policy in urban area and the 25' rule.
We are certifying two buildings in Boston to be occupied by the State. The state has a No Smoking Policy on all properties. We know that we will have to determine how to convey this policy to the building users and visitors. In the end, no smoking will be allowed in the building or anywhere on the property. The issue we're having is understanding how USGBC/GBCI views urban areas where 25' from entries, windows, and intakes in most directions puts you on a neighboring property or in the street. Intakes and windows aren't really an issue due to the building design but our entries could be.
By prohibiting smoking on the entire property, you are in compliance with the credit requirements, regardless of whether or not an adjacent property is within 25' of a building opening. You do not have control of what happens on another property and therefore cannot be penalized for it, hence why the credit language specifies prohibiting "on-property" smoking within 25 feet.
Are smoking receptacles allowed at doorways?
There will be no smoking in our buildings (DoD requirement); we will have smoking allowed outside the 25' perimeter outdoors. As such, would it violate the requirements of IEQp2 to have smoking receptacles at the doorways for butt disposal? I am thinking it would, but would like some input as the design team is looking into this idea from a solid waste control perspective.
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