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11 Comments

Alessandro Bisagni Nov 15 2009

The link to the AISC site is wrong..

It takes me to a page discussing bolts... Can you please direct me to the correct page?

Thank you,

Alessandro

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Tristan Roberts replied Editor – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, LLC Nov 20 2009

Alessandro, I am having trouble with the AISC website, too. None of the main content pages are loading for me. I've changed the link that we provide here to their homepage, and I hope that they'll sort out their technical problems so that we can find this content more easily.

Nadav Malin replied President, BuildingGreen, LLC Nov 26 2009

It turns out that AISC gets that information from the Steel Recycling Institute (SRIThe solar reflectance index (SRI) is a measure of a material's ability to reject solar heat, as shown by a small temperature rise. Standard black (reflectance 0.05, emittance 0.90) is 0 and standard white (reflectance 0.80, emittance 0.90) is 100. For example, a standard black surface has a temperature rise of 90_F (50_C) in full sun, and a standard white surface has a temperature rise of 14.6_F (8.1_C). Once the maximum temperature rise of a given material has been computed, the SRI can be calculated by interpolating between the values for white and black. Materials with the highest SRI values are the coolest choices for paving. Because of the way SRI is defined, particularly hot materials can even take slightly negative values, and particularly cool materials can even exceed 100.), which publishes it online also. I've changed that Resource listing to link to the SRI page with that document. I think that's better anyway. Here's the link that's now on the Resources tab: http://www.recycle-steel.org/leed.html

Alessandro Bisagni replied Nov 30 2009

Thank you Nadav,

I had found that link as well. Do you think that the higher percentages for EAF-made steel (i.e. 56.9% & 31.4%) can be used and accepted by the USGBC for projects in China?

I would appreciate anyone's opinion on this..

Cheers,

Alessandro

Travis Layman Chief Estimator, LEED AP Harman Construction, Inc. Jan 18 2010

Calculations - Material Cost

1. The calculation section in the reference guide says to multiply the total construction cost (hard costs only) by.45. Does total hard cost = cost with contractor's fee? or = to cost without contractor's fee?

2. Also, the reference guide says material costs include all expenses to deliver the material to the project site. Should this be consistent with 1 above? Include the fee if included in 1 above and don't include the fee if not included in 1 above. Correct?

Thanks,
Travis

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Travis Layman replied Chief Estimator, LEED AP, Harman Construction, Inc. Jan 18 2010

Another related question:
Is the material cost = the contract value of the material? Typically the contract value of the material is an estimated value. Actual cost could be more or less.

Thanks.

Nadav Malin replied President, BuildingGreen, LLC Jan 19 2010

Hi Travis,

Contractor fees are typically considered part of the "hard costs" of construction (as opposed to design fees and permitting costs, which are soft costs), so they should be included. That is also consistent with the Ref Guide guidance on your 2nd question--which is to include transportation/delivery fees in the cost of materials.

Regarding Travis' question on actual cost vs. contract value, the preferred approach would be to use actual costs, but if that's hard to get and you have contract values readily available that might be acceptable. Could be worth asking in a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide or trying it that way in an initial application, as long as you're prepared to go back and dig up the actual costs if they require that.

Wolfgang Werner Feb 05 2010

Concrete tracking

Couple of questions on concrete (an assembly).

1. The "Sample Letter to Contractor" makes reference to a "concrete tracking form", which I could not find. Will this be added to the Toolkit in the future?
2. It appears that for all concrete on a project, one has to make a decision whether to separate out the SCMs (per Reference Guide page 373) or not. In other words if considering the entire concrete assembly, recycled rebar or aggregate would typically have a much larger impact (as it is calcualted by weight) than recycled SCMs. So if one calculates the SCMs separately against the total mass of all cementitious materials, it appears that for each concrete element one would have to perform two calculations in parallel - one for the total assembly and one for for cementitious materials only. Is that a correct reading?

Thanks,

Wolfgang

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Mara Baum Sustainability Coordinator Anshen + Allen Architects Feb 05 2010

Off-site labor costs

To what extent is shop labor included in material costs? With increases in shop fabrication, this could be a big issue. Clearly there is labor that goes into the manufacture of every product, but at what point do we draw the line? For example, if a steel truss is manufactured in a shop and then shipped to the job site, is the cost of the shop labor included in the cost of the material? What if an entire kitchen is prefabricated? As in, purchased from a kitchen manufacturer, not manufactured off site by the project contractor. Would that differentiation matter? (This is for a 2.2 project.)

Also, if we have to pay a patent fee to use/adapt a product technology, is that considered to be part of the product cost?

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Nadav Malin replied President, BuildingGreen, LLC Feb 06 2010

I'd suggest focus on the contractual relationships to sort out the shop labor question. If the off-site shop is run by the contractor or a subcontractor, then what happens there should be a labor cost, not a materials cost. If the shop (or kitchen fabricator) is run by an outside vendor, then they would be a "supplier" and their labor is, for the purposes of the project, part of the cost of the materials.

If it isn't clear whether the fabricator is a supplier or a subcontractor, you could establish a distinction based on whether or not they do any actual work (as opposed to just offering guidance) on the job site.

On the patent question--sorry, can't help you there. I'd say that, until a precedent gets documented, you can include it or not at your discretion.

Anyone else have experiences that might be helpful here?

Annette Bellafiore Mar 09 2010

countertops CSI classification

The guidelines for MRc3 - 7 indicate that only items in Division 3 - 10, 31 and 32 should be included in the calculations unless you want to include all furniture. However, it seems like wood casework is found in both divisions 6 and 12. Is there a distinction between the two? It seems odd that I could count the casework in division 6, but not the countertops because they are in division 12.

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