NC 2009 SSc4.2: Alternative Transportation—Bicycle Storage and Changing Rooms

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  • You can lead a horse to water…

    …But you can’t make it drink. In other words, bike racks and showers will probably not be enough to encourage biking in an area that’s unfriendly to bicyclists. If you’re thinking of pursuing this credit, first consider the realities of the neighborhood around your project. Is it realistic that building occupants will ride bicycles and make use of the bike racks and storage or the shower facilities? It’s important to consider whether the intent of this credit will bear out in reality or if your resources might be better allocated elsewhere.

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    This credit entails the costs of purchasing and installing the bike racks, as well as showers and changing facilities if you decide to provide those onsite. For smaller projects, the additional...

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Sara Neff Director, Sustainability Programs Kilroy Realty Corporation
Jan 31 2012
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Offsite showers?

If we are going to demonstrate credit compliance with showers that are not in the project building but are within the required walking distance, do the showerheads in that facility need to comply with WE p1/c3?

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Feb 02 2012 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

I wouldn't think so. This credit is to provide access to showers, and since the showers can be in another building they aren't part of the plumbing scope of your project building, and could be outside of your control..

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Taylor Ralph REAL Building Group Feb 02 2012 Member 62 Thumbs Up

from my project experience, no they do not question the flows of showers outside of the project scope.

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Jiri Dobias
Jan 19 2012
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Underground parking ramp

Is it possible to use a ramp leading to an underground parking as an entrance for bicycles as well? The ramp is wide enough for one car lane and we are not able to accommodate paralel line for bicycles.

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Michael Miller Sustainability Resources Group, SERA Architects Jan 19 2012 Member 525 Thumbs Up

Jiri,

I don't believe there is anything in LEED that would prevent that. Make sure, however, that you address some questions about how usable and safe the facility will actually be for cyclists, such as:

1. Are you talking about bicyclists riding their bicycles, or walking them, down and up the ramp?
2. If they will be walking their bicycles, will it be OK for all pedestrians to walk up and down the ramps? (A cyclist off of their bicycle is a pedestrian.)
3. If riding, make sure overhead clearances are comfortable for a person on a bike, which can be a lot taller than you might assume -- I found an online bicycle facility design handbook which says that the design height of an adult rider on a bicycle ranges from 50" to 88". If clearances are not comfortable, include caution signage specifically addressing cyclists.
4. Is the steepness and length of the ramps comfortable for a person riding or walking their bicycle? (Consider the uphill, exit trip as well.) How about when wet?
5. Are sightlines unobstructed and safe such that drivers can easily see a bicyclist/pedestrian on the ramp(s)?
6. Do the layouts of the entry/exit to the garage, the ramp(s), and the parking area force drivers to drive carefully on the ramps, or do they enable fast, inattentive driving?
7. Is this in an area (city / part of the world) where drivers are used to watching for cyclists? Or might they assume that a cyclist on the ramp is "in the wrong place" and potentially react aggressively to the cyclist's presence in "their" right of way, slowing them down?

And a couple of thoughts on design considerations:
1. Include 'caution' signage at the top and bottom of the ramps which says something like "Bicylces [or Pedestrians] on ramps" with a standard bike graphic. This lets drivers know that they cyclists have a right to be there.
2. If the ramps are long and/or include turns which make visibility problematic, but you really need to do this solution, consider a cyclist-activated warning signal. Some tunnels on the narrow two-lane highway along the scenic Oregon Coast have warning signs which say "Bicycles in tunnel when flashing" with flashing yellow lights. A cyclist presses a button to activate the flashers, then rides through the tunnel. Drivers know to proceed slowly and with additional caution.

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Jiri Dobias Jan 23 2012 Member 47 Thumbs Up

Michael, thanks for really detailed answer. You helped a lot!

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Fc P Sustainable Construction Site Coordinator AKD Architecture
Jan 19 2012
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Bike racks for Sports Arena

Hi, we are working on two Football Stadiums for the next WorldCup. Both are located in dense areas with easy access by bicycle, so pursuing this credit seems like a reasonable intent.
The maximum capacity of our largest Arena is 54000 plus 100 FTEs. At 5%, that would make 2705 bike racks required, which is just impossible.

Is there another approach to calculate the required bike racks in the particular case of Sports Arenas?
Providing bike racks for the staff working on site, FTE, would be acceptable? I've read about similar exceptions in hotels, convention centers, airports and other high capacity buildings.

Considering the Arenas will work at its full capacity only during the event, that lasts less than a month. Afterwards, they will be used for concerts and regional games, that is more likely to demand much less of the full capacity. Plus, most transient users carpool or use public transportation. Thanks in advance!

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jan 18 2012 Moderator

FC1. A footcandle (fc) is a measure of light falling on a given surface. One footcandle is defined as the quantity of light falling on a 1-square-foot area from a 1 candela light source at a distance of 1 foot (which equals 1 lumen per square foot). Footcandles can be measured both horizontally and vertically by a footcandle meter or light meter. 2. The non-metric measurement of lumens per square foot, one footcandle is the amount of light that is received one foot from a light source called a candela, which is based on the light output of a standardized candle. A common range for interior lighting is 10 to 100 footcandles, while exterior daytime levels can range from 100 to over 10,000 footcandles. Footcandles decrease with distance from the light source. The metric equivalent of a foot candle is 10.76 lux, or lumens per square meter., for a possible exception, see David's response earlier on this forum under "FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. for multi purpose building."

There may be some possibility to such an exception, but I would also repeat something noted in another earlier forum post: all credits are not applicable to all projects.

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L Ch JGMA
Jan 11 2012
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Shower for a transportation hub

We are working on a transportation hub next to a stadium. The project won't have any full time employes on site. However it will provide a bathroom for bus drivers and security personnel who will use it throughout the day . Also we are projecting a transient occupancy at peak period of 100. Base upon this frequency of users we are estimating 2 FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. and 100 transient for a total of 6 bike racks. Because the bus drivers don't start their routes at the hub and the restroom is not open to the public; nobody will use the shower facilities. Will LEED allow us to omit the shower in this situation?

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Emily Catacchio Sustainability Specialist, Wight and Company Jan 12 2012 Moderator

L Ch,

I think it is unlikely GBCI will allow you to omit the shower. Usually if you cannot meet the requirments of this credit the review team will tell you that not all credits are applicable to every project. You could submit a formal query to GBCI, but I think it's a long shot.

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Sara Neff Director, Sustainability Programs Kilroy Realty Corporation
Jan 09 2012
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Health Club Facility

Does anyone know what documentation we provide to prove that .5% of the FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. of a project have access to the showers in a nearby health club facility? Signed statement on letterhead? This is something that is coming up well after the lease with the health club was written, so I cannot change the lease language to accomodate.

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Jan 13 2012 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

That sounds reasonable, espeically if the letter states the estimated number of people who will have access, and the agreement is not a temporary one.

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Zachary Guren
Dec 15 2011
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LEED Retail - Bicycle Route Assistance

I'm working on a LEED Retail project, and I don't think the tenant will be open to adding showers or changing areas. The LEED Retail version of this credit, however, allows 2 other options - bicycle maintenance program and bicycle route assistance. Does anyone have experience with either of these two options? If so, can you explain what you did to achieve this credit? Can we provide bicycle route assistance simply by installing signs with bicycle route maps and other transit information?

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Zachary Guren Dec 15 2011 Member 6 Thumbs Up

Also, LEED Retail offers a SSc4, Option 7 "Alternative Transportation Education" which requires the provision of a board that provides information on carpooling, transit trip planning, transit maps, maps of bicycle routes, etc. It seems to me that if you achieve the requirements of Option 7, then you would certainly achieve the bicycle route assistance requirement that I mentioned above. Does that sound reasonable?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 18 2011 Moderator

Zachary, I don't have experience with this but your approach sounds reasonable to me. I would also suggest distributing brochures, emails, etc.—doing something to push this information out more actively.

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E H Sustainability Architect
Dec 13 2011
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Distance to racks

We have a project on a campus where we are installing a bike rack for our project within the campus bike parking area (within the LEED campus but outside the LEED project boundary). This bike parking area is barely within 200 yards of the building entrance as the crow flies. I have always taken the distance to the racks as a straight distance, and only used the walking distance for showers and changing rooms and this has never been questioned. Is this still the case or do we now need to also have the racks within 200 yards walking distance?

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Susan Walter Sr Project Architect, Wilmot/Sanz Dec 13 2011 Guest 1171 Thumbs Up

I've always used walking distance without problems. I'm not saying that is more right just what I have done. The RG does say that the 200 yards is measured from "a" door not the main door. Is it possible you have a door closer? Hopefully someone else can answer the distance question more definitively.

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Sharlene Angeles IBI Group
Nov 23 2011
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Existing shower facilities used for previous LEED certification

Our project site has a sufficient changing/shower facility that is existing in another building that also achieved LEED certification, including this point. If that changing facility is located within the 200 yards of our building entrance, but it was used to achieve a previous certification, can we still apply it to our point as well?

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Nov 23 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

Possibly - if the number of showers is 0.5% of the FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. of both buildings combined, then it is adequate to serve both buildings. If it only has enough showers to serve the FTE of one building, than it can only be used for one building's certification.

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Agustina Galli Architect Iannuzzi Colombo
Oct 21 2011
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FTE for multi purpose building

Hi! we are designing a 5 stars hotel with a number of residences. I don´t know how to count occupants for the FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories.! Anyone can help me?
The hotel staff full time is estimated to be 230 people.
We´ll have 116 hotel rooms for 2 persons each: 232 transients?
Residences would be 41, with a total of 98 occupants.
My problem is that I don´t know if I have to count the total occupancy of the hotel since the guest will probably not use bicycles, or use the total of staff and a percentage of the guests * 0.05 and to that i add the residences 98 * 0.15. How do I calculate the visitors!?
Thank you all!!!

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Oct 27 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

For calculating the FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. of hotels, see the comments below from August 8, 2011 and see interpretation # 1567 in the LEED Interpretations database. These describe how many hotels can exclude the guests from the count of transients using bikes if the location is one where guests are not expected to arrive by bike Some hotels might expect bike travelers as guests, such as on a popular bike tour route. Many hotels will also make bikes available to guests for local use once they have arrived, so consider that possibility.
If the hotel has a restaurant or other facilities open to the public, there could possibly be visitors arriving by bike from other hotels or the local area. If so, you could calculate the number of transient visitors for retail or restaurant using the default numbers found in the BD&C Reference Guide Appendix 1: assume 1 transient for every 130 sf of retail, and 1 transient for every 95 sf of restaurant.
Yes, for hotel staff you will need bike racks for 5% of the peak number of staff (the busiest shift). Then use 0.05 * 230 to calculate the # of showers for hotel staff.
For the residences you are also correct to use 15% of the residential occupancy to calculate the number of bike racks for them - these will need to be covered. If the residences are all one bedroom units, you would assume 2 people per unit, but for two- bedroom units assume 3 people, three-bedroom units assume 4, etc. See BD&C Reference Guide page 53 for this explanation.
Hope that helps!

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Joshua Bloom Business Development Bloom General Contracting
Oct 20 2011
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Changing Room Calculation, and access for both male and females

Based on my FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. calculations, I am only required to provide 1 shower to meet this requirement. Since both males and females will have access to this one shower, and it will be in a single room, does this satisfy the credit requirements? Or, do I need to have at minimum two showers, one designated for men, and one for female.

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Mara Baum Healthcare Sustainable Design Leader, HOK Oct 20 2011 Guest Expert 1706 Thumbs Up

One shower is fine, as long as it's accessible to everyone. This is a common path to achieving this credit.

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Christi Mosher ZGF Architects
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Showers for Retail employees in a Mixed Use project

I am working on a mixed-use project that is primarily residential, but we do have a small amount of shell space on the ground floor for future commercial. Similar to examples from NC v2.2, if the commercial area is less than 10% of project gsf, can I consider this a residential project and not provide showers for the future retail employees?

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Oct 18 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

Correct, most mixed use projects we've seen with a small amount of ground floor retail has been core and shell space built out later. Typically a Tenant Manual is prepared for the future tenants encouraging them to follow LEED guidelines, providing information and resources on compliant materials, products, and strategies.
You'll still need to include retail staff and customers in your FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. and transient counts for bike racks - use CS Appendix 1 for gsf/ occupant. Hope that helps!

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Michele Helou Principal, Sage Design & Consulting Nov 07 2011 Member 148 Thumbs Up

Can someone point out where it says that if the commercial area is less than 10% gsf, the project can be considered a residential project and therefore no need for shower access for retail employees? I cannot find this exemption anywhere in the LEED documents?

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Nov 08 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

In the searchable LEED Interpretations database, look for ID# 3111 (from 4/4/2005 for SSc4.4) and ID# 5076 (from 9/10/2007 for SSc4.2.)

You should be able to search just by the ID number. The applicability chart indicates these "may" be applied to more current projects "if reasonable and appropriate." Hope that helps!

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B MS Sr. Architect TI
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bicycle storage and changing rooms

We are working on a mixed used (commercial and residential) building. We have FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. 421 in commercial whereas total no. of residents is 28. the peak transients is 731. we calculated the no. of bicycle spaces as(28*.15)+(421*.05)= 25 bicycle space.
Transient populations have been excluded from the calculation since it is not expected to arrive by bicycle.
no. of showering facilities for commercial space= 421*.005= 2
we had provided two no. of showers in the health club at the eight floor.

Is this approach is correct???
Need guidance.
Thanks!

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Sep 29 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

Almost - it depends on the reasons for excluding the transients, and you also need to round up your numbers when there is a fraction (25.25 becomes 26 spaces). From past CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide rulings, we are typically required to include the peak transients in calculating the number of bike spaces. We don't have to include those transients in calculating the number of showers, however. Is your commercial FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. number based on employees and no commercial visitors?

The only cases where projects have been allowed to exclude the transients from the bike spaces was in very specific situations where it shown that certain users would not be able to use bikes - inmates in a prison, travelers coming to an airport, patients in a critical care facility, etc.
Reviewers have usually rejected arguments that transient users wouldn't be biking based on past common practices, professional dress, climate conditions, etc. If adding the total bike spaces is not feasible, you could try proposing a reduced number, but you'd have to make a good case for it. Hope that helps!

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Alicia Freire Senior Engineer hurleypalmerflatt
Aug 15 2011
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Shower in disable toilet

Hi, the building I am assessing has a shower with a disable toilet. Is this shower and changing space acceptable for the purposes of this credit?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Aug 16 2011 Moderator

Alicia, I would say that it could contribute to the credit, yes. My caveat would be that it depends on the number of FTEs in the building, whether you also need additional space.

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Alicia Freire Senior Engineer, hurleypalmerflatt Aug 17 2011 Member 30 Thumbs Up

Tristan,
Thank you very much for your reply.
The building is a data centre and will have very low occupancy (15 FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories.) therefore only one shower is required. I understand from your response that in this case this would still be accaptable. Is this correct?
Thank you very much.

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Aug 23 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

Sounds fine as long as the shower is available to both male and female users.

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Aug 01 2011
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Extended Stay Hotel

Would an extended stay hotel be considered residential? I am trying to calculate the number of bicycle racks we will have to provide for a project, but I am unsure as to how LEED defines the term "residential".

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Aug 08 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

Good question. In many countries, building codes often classify hotels as a "residential occupancy" though in LEED, hotels are usually considered commercial buildings. Thus FTE numbers and bike showering facilities are based on the hotel staff, whereas guests are usually considered transients. See LEED interpretations #2422, 2082, and 1698.

The Rating System Selection Guidance v2 document from Nov 24, 2010 defines Residential as "a space or building that is defined as a 'dwelling unit' by all applicable codes, and has a cooking area (comprised of sinks(s), cooking appliance(s), preparation spaces(s) and a bathroom." If the hotel doesn't have kitchens in all guest rooms, it's more clearly non-residential, but if it does have kitchens in all rooms it is less clear to me. If there is ambiguity, the LEED reviewer would probably look to how your building is classified by local codes, so you'll want to use that for guidance, but as we've seen, the codes may define the hotel as residential.

The intent of the different credit requirements is to provide better shelter and more storage for residential users. Since users of an extended stay hotel are possibly more likely to need and use bikes for transit than a short term hotel user, it would be safer to assume the residential classification. If this is a concern for your project, you might need a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide to get a definite answer.

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Nilo Regojo
Jun 29 2011
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Bike Racks for a Movie Theater - SSc4.2

Is it reasonable to propose bike racks for less than 5% of peak-time building users for a new Movie Theater? The building will have 20 FTEs and a total peak-time load of 2,071...that assumes every seat is full.

The ONLY times movie theaters ever approach this condition is on Friday and Saturday nights, when many patrons will probably be unlikely to ride their bikes.

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Jul 05 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

On some project types, you can make a reasonable and credible assumption that very few of the transient building occupants or visitors will be riding bikes - airports, hotels, and assisted living facilities have been granted exceptions in the past. On the other hand, for many standard building types you could argue all kinds of reasons why people won't ride a bike - time of day, type of user, level of dress, climate, geographic location, etc.

Since the intent of the credit is to encourage and reward a change in behavior, transform the market place, and not accept the status quo as unchangeable, I doubt you'd get an exemption for a movie theater. You can always try, but you may get a response along the lines of "not all credits are appropriate for all project types," which is often the case.

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Carly Jankens Sustainability Consultant Steven Winter Associates, Inc.
Jun 17 2011
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Residential Building Concierge and Visitors

The credit form presents two cases to select, if the project includes "commercial/institutional spaces" and/or "residential spaces". My residential tower does not include commercial/institutional spaces, but unless I click on both cases, the building's concierge and residential visitors are not included in the calculations. I feel as though reviewers will come back with comments about these occupants being excluded from credit calculations... does anyone have experience with this situation and how to best document?

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Jun 17 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

This has come up as a concern - There is a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide on this issue in the Interpretations database that came from a local project. Look for:
Inquiry Number: 5076
MPR/Prerequisite/Credit: SSc4.2: Alternative Transportation-Bicycle Storage and Changing Rooms
Posting date: 9/10/2007
The ruling was:
"The project is seeking clarification regarding the requirements of SSc4.2 for mixed-use projects. While showers/changing rooms are not required for building staff in a residential building (or the residential portion of a mixed-use building), building staff must be counted as "occupants" when determining the number of bike parking spaces provided in these buildings."
In the "Applicable rating systems and tools" table of the interpretation, there is a check for LEED 2009, so it would appear to apply.

If the form doesn't calculate properly, you can always use the "alternative compliance path" option and include a narrative.
Hope that helps!

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Norma Rosowski Sustainability Consultant The Beck Group
Apr 28 2011
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Bike Racks

are they required to be located within the LEED boundary?

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects May 02 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

No, as long as they meet the credit requirement of being within 200 yards of a building entrance.

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Hsin-Yi Hsieh
Apr 19 2011
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Multi-family project with small portion of retail spaces

We have a multi-familty residential projects (650,000 SF), which has a small portion of retail spaces ( 12,567 SF). The retail spaces are two restaurants. Do we have to design bike storages for restaurant consumers? If bike storage are required for restaurant consumers, that means showers also must be provided for them. But in the real situation, how mamy people would take a shower and then go to a restaurant? Since the the portion of retail space is reatively small, can we just follow residential requirement?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Apr 19 2011 Moderator

Hsin-Yi, I would recommend reviewing the credit requirements (which you can do above). You must provide bike racks for a percentage of all building users, but showers must only be provided for occupants, i.e. staff, etc.

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Hsin-Yi Hsieh Apr 19 2011 Member 148 Thumbs Up

Hi Tristan,
Thank you for quick reply. Now I realize showers are only provided for occupant. However, for bike storage, can you please check the template of this credit? When you choose Case2, which is residential project, the template only require total residents number.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Apr 23 2011 Moderator

Hsin-Yi, you could select BOTH Case 1 and also Case 2. That should clear it up.

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Matt Day
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Minimum Requirement for what a "bike rack" is?

Try #2: maybe just posting a reply doesn't attrace enough attention - I'm new to the site and trying to figure it out.

As in most cases, my Owner is looking to save pennies. Instead of a buying a prefab'd vertical bike rack to put in our covered bike storage room, he asked why not just use a rubber coated hook to hang the bike by the front/back wheel and a closed eye bolt to lock the bike to, both embedded in the CMU. I'm an avid biker and would be fine with this, but would LEED? It seems to meet the intent by providing lockable storage. Thanks!

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Apr 13 2011 Moderator

Matt, I think this would work. I would be a bit concerned that you're requiring people to lift and hang the bike on the wall, which is less accessible than typical racks. I know some perfectly able-bodied bicycle users who would have physical difficulty with this. Could you include a mix of hanging and grounded storage?

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Matt Day Apr 13 2011 Guest 46 Thumbs Up

That's a good point Tristan, which didn't occur to me. I will suggest to the owner we provide either a standard floor mounted bike rack or rail attached to the wall. Thanks!

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Karen Joslin principal, Joslin Consulting Apr 27 2011 Member 336 Thumbs Up

Actually the technical requirement is "secure bicycle storage" so whateve is used must provide the ability to lock the bike to it. Hanging hooks could not do that, even if many people could get the bike hiked up...

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Matt Day Apr 27 2011 Guest 46 Thumbs Up

Karen,
As I mentioned, there will also be a closed eye bolt for each hook which will allow the user to lock their bike.

We plan to install (2) floor mounted bike racks for folks who can't lift thier bike onto a hook.

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Michael Miller Sustainability Resources Group, SERA Architects Apr 27 2011 Member 525 Thumbs Up

Matt,
I assume that LEED would not look for this level of detail, but from a practical security standpoint, I would add a couple of comments on your proposed approach. Since I don't know what type of project it is, it's not clear how long users would typically be leaving their bikes, nor how (in-)secure the storage area itself is. Depending on the perceived theft risk, many riders would not feel comfortable leaving their bikes unless they can get a U-lock at least through the frame, the front wheel and the secure rack. Your solution doesn't sound like it would allow that. I would go so far as to argue that if the configuration forces a user to use a cable (versus a U-lock or other hardened lock), it's not really secure (unless it's inside a restricted-access room).

If you do go with eye bolts, make it as hefty as possible, so it will at least slow down someone with a cutting tool. Also, you want to make sure that the eye is large enough to easily pass a thick U-lock bar or the loop on the end of a cable through it.

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Matt Day Apr 27 2011 Guest 46 Thumbs Up

Thanks Michael.

This project is a 5 story office building in an office park, and the bike storage is not attached to the main building - it is a seperate room that's part of the emergency generator enclosure. The bike room is covered, and I believe the owners will have a key card access on the door.

If riders have a U-lock, they can use the floor mounted bike racks so they can take off their front wheel and lock it through the frame and rear wheel if they want to. If I were a commuter at this building, I'd leave my cable lock locked up to an eye bolt so I don't have to lug it around.

I've been a cyclist for about 20 years and worked full and part time at bike shops for about 10 years. I'm confident my solution will work for riders of all types, I just wasn't sure what LEED's definition was.

Thanks for all the tips and insight.

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Lauren Glasscock Sr. Sustainability Professional KEMA Services, Inc.
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Senior Living Facility and bike racks

I am currently working on a senior living facility where the residents are far along in their dementia and deteriorating health. It would truly be unsafe for the residents to be biking. However, we could provide a couple bike racks for a couple residents that might be more able. Has anyone else seen a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide or extra guidance for providing bike racks in a senior living facility? We will be providing back racks for our staff FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories..

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Lauren Glasscock Sr. Sustainability Professional, KEMA Services, Inc. Apr 04 2011 Guest Expert 3207 Thumbs Up

Found this CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide that seems to work in our favor.

SSc4.2: NC 4/23/2008
"Credit Interpretation Request"
Our project is a Senior Assisted Living Facility registered under the LEED NC 2.2 rating system. In addition to the residential component it includes a restaurant, shop and dining room and will be staffed 24 hours a day with a maximum of 22 staff FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. occupants per shift.

We are requesting a ruling excluding the requirement to provide covered bike racks for the residential occupants, whom are unable to bike due to physical limitations and/or health problems. Due to the specific characteristics of the residential population, the project team feels that it is impractical to provide covered bike storage for 15% of the residents, as calculated for SSc4.2 Alternative Transportation, Bike Storage and Changing Rooms. Previous CIR rulings dated 6/4/2003 and 9/14/2006 set a precedence to exclude certain populations from the bicycle storage requirements based upon the practicality of that population to take advantage of the bicycle storage. LEED for Schools also addresses the issue of physical inability and/or safety by limiting the bike rack requirement to students above third grade.

To meet the intent of this credit we are proposing that we satisfy the requirements to serve the employees of the project and provide bicycle storage for 5% of the FTE and showers for 0.5% of the FTE and exclude the residential population from the calculation for bicycle storage"

"Ruling"
The CIR is requesting that their project be exempted from the requirement for covered bicycle racks for 15% of residents. This request is based on the physical limitations of the residents at this senior assisted living facility and the assumption that they will not be riding bicycles with any regularity. The project has proposed to meet the credit by providing bicycle racks for 5% of the staff FTE, and showers for .5% of the staff FTE, with the residents entirely excluded from the calculations.

Based on previous CIRs, especially the ruling dated 12/2/07 under SSc4.4, physically incapacitated residents can be excluded from credit calculations determining bicycle racks. However, in order for the credit requirements to be satisfied, the bicycle racks must be sized to accommodate 5% of both the FTE staff, and the peak transient occupancy including visitors. The proposal to size the showers for 0.5% of the FTE staff is appropriate for credit compliance. Please note that employee shower facilities must be separate from resident shower facilities."

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Lauren Glasscock Sr. Sustainability Professional, KEMA Services, Inc. Apr 08 2011 Guest Expert 3207 Thumbs Up

Found another CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide that I thought might be useful for those interested in exceptions made for those that cannot be reasonably expected to arrive to the project site by bicycle:

LEED Interpretation 2422 includes further clarification regarding bicycle storage and site visitor numbers. The interpretation distinguishes between visitors to a site whom can not reasonably be expected to arrive at this destination on or with a bicycle and those which may be expected to arrive to the site by bicycle, as they relate to the occupancy counts for this credit.

Inquiry Number: 2422
MPR/Prerequisite/Credit: SSc4.2: Alternative
Transportation-Bicycle Storage and Changing Rooms
Posting date: 1/23/2009

The project team is pursuing LEED- NCv2.2 SSc4.2 and is requesting an exemption for hotel guests from the onsite bike storage requirement. Per previous CIR ruling (NCv2.1 SSc4.2 ruling dated 09/14/06), the proposed approach to exclude hotel guests from onsite bike storage requirements is appropriate given the proximity of the project to mass transit and the explanation provided. When submitting this credit, the narrative should include the number of people that are excluded from SSc4.2 occupancy counts and why this type of visitor cannot reasonably be expected to arrive at this destination on or with a bicycle. The submittal should also state how guests with bicycles will be accommodated. See the LEED NCv2.1 SSc4.2 CIR ruling dated 5/13/2007 for information on calculating hotel occupancy. As you correctly mention, other transient occupants such as retail customers should be included in occupancy counts, along with all the FTEs (all building staff and office tenants) and building residents.

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Susan Walter Sr Project Architect, Wilmot/Sanz Apr 13 2011 Guest 1171 Thumbs Up

LEED HC uses just staff FTEs at peak shift to determine the bike racks. If your team has decided that LEED HC is not the program for them, you might review that credit strategy as part of your narrative /CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide process for this project. It seems that the CIRs you mention here were reviewed in the HC draft process and incorporated into their credit write up.

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Stefania Minotti M.Arch, LEED AP
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Bike storage for residents with disabilities?

I’m presently working on a mid-rise residential social housing building with 5 stories and 76 units. 67 of these apartments are 1 bedroom and 9 are two bedroom. According to the guide I need to assume 2 residents in 1 bedroom units and 3 residents in 2 bedroom units. This would bring me to a count of 161 building occupants which yields a requirement of 25 bike racks. However, 9 of the 3 bedroom units are adaptable (units that are designed for use by people with disabilities or for those who are limited in mobility). Is it safe to assume that people living in these units will not be able to use bicycles and can, therefore, be excluded from the occupant count?

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Eric Shamp Principal, Ecotype Consulting Mar 22 2011 Guest Expert 249 Thumbs Up

I think it's safe to assume that one person living in those units won't be riding a bicycle, but their family members could.

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Marian Keeler Senior Associate, Simon & Associates, Inc. Mar 22 2011 Member 1046 Thumbs Up

Hi Stefania-We encountered a similar question with a dining hall for an under-served population and were questioned on our strategy to provide bike parking for only those folks who could conceivably bike to the building--the paid employees. We proposed that the requirement did NOT apply to those who a) did not own bikes, b) weren't allowed to have anything with wheels because of their participation in drug rehab programs and c) volunteers in later years who didn't usually bike. We also made the argument that because it is a high crime area, cyclists are targets. In the end we gave up! But because I am now working on a project in the same neighborhood and very similar to yours, we intend to file an interpretation request. If the fees are an issue, you could always gamble by providing a very strong, descriptive narrative with your application. To play it safe though, perhaps Eric's approach is the best bet. Just a story to share! Marian

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Mar 22 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

Also, reviewers have pointed out that the ability or mobility of occupants can change over time as the building program changes, so just because a unit is being designated as "adaptable" doesn't exclude occupants of those units from having bikes at some point in the future. The same could be said of the crime risk.

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Stefania Minotti M.Arch, LEED AP Mar 22 2011 Member 43 Thumbs Up

Eric, Marian, thank you for the guidance. My issue is really related to space: we only have room for 23 bike rack spots. However, if I take Eric's approach in calculating the number of residents that's the amount that's required. Thanks again.

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Stefania Minotti M.Arch, LEED AP Mar 23 2011 Member 43 Thumbs Up

Hi David, I think it's safe to assume that if a disabled resident in a social housing building is no longer considered disabled he/she would be relocated into a unit that is not adaptable in order to make room for another disabled person. I think I will make this argument. Good call though, thank you for bringing up the point.

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Jonathan Weiss Mar 30 2011 Member 660 Thumbs Up

I am by no means an expert on accessibility but I have usually gone by the premise that we should not assume that disabled people will do or will not do anything - there are many people who have disabilities that limit some activities but allow others (and watching paralympics and other sports, many "disabled" people are far more "able" than many of us!) . I would be more conservative and say that you cannot adjust the numbers based on adaptable / accessibility standards.

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Alyson Laura Senior Sustainability Consultant Sustainable Investment Group (SIG)
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Church - 'dress your best'

I'm working on (a renovation of) an existing church with 6 FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories., and 400 peak transients. 5% of 406 FTE = 20 bicycle parking spaces. We can provide 10 spaces, which is sufficient to serve the current transients because most carpool or use public transportation. In addition, the transients want to 'dress their sunday best' which prohibits many from cycling.

1. Is it reasonable to lower the amount of transients to account for those that carpool or take public transportation? What evidence would be needed?

2. Is it worthwhile to buy a formal Inquiry?

3. Has anyone tried a similar strategy?

Thank you.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Mar 10 2011 Moderator

Charlie, this would not generally be a successful strategy—there are lots of projects that have many valid reasons for having fewer bike racks than the credit requires. For better or worse, LEED provides an objective yardstick with credits like this, and some projects won't be able to meet the required measure.

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Hsin-Yi Hsieh
Feb 17 2011
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Bike storaged in an apartment storage room

We are working on a multi-family residential housing. There are four buildings on the site. The highest building is nine-story high. The design team assume that bike storage within a storage unit is equivalent to bike stored in a bike rack. Is this correct? I don’t think this is correct, because storage units can be occupied by other stuffs. I assumed LEED required dedicated bike rack design.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Feb 24 2011 Moderator

Where are the storage units located? Is it likely they will be occupied by other stuff? Who are they accessible to?

I share your concern, but I would need a bit more information to have a more informed opinion.

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Hsin-Yi Hsieh Feb 25 2011 Member 148 Thumbs Up

Hi Tristan,

Our project is a 9-story apartment. Each unit will be designed with a storage room inside. The design team want to use this space as bike storage room. Each storage room only can be used by its own apartment renter. Thank you.

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Feb 25 2011 Guest Expert 4067 Thumbs Up

That should be acceptable. We've seen this credit approved with similar strategies: as long as each unit has it's own storage area that is large enough for a bike, and as long as there is enough other storage in the unit for typical items such as clothing, etc, I would think this is ok.

If there was a common storage area in the building shared by all residents that could get filled up with non-bike stuff, I think that would be a problem. Also, if the living units are very small with very little total storage for each unit, it might be hard to convince the reviewer there's enough room for a bike.

But if each unit has control over it's own storage, and it is big enough, anyone with a bike can be sure of having a place to keep it.

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Eric Shamp Principal, Ecotype Consulting Feb 27 2011 Guest Expert 249 Thumbs Up

Putting myself in the shoes of a LEED reviewer, I might want some evidence that it is practical to haul a bike through the front doors, into an elevator, and down a corridor. Consider door hold opens at the front entry (like the pushbutton devices often used for wheelchair access), elevator cabs deep enough to accommodate a bike, and no carpeting along the path of travel. I'd also be suspicious about any attempt to comply with IEQc5... it's tough to control indoor pollutants when folks are rolling bicycles through the corridors. Without the inclusion of a few additional amenities to make bike storage practical in these rooms, I'd be inclined to view your attempt as a stretch.

Although it's not strictly a LEED concern, one could expect many scuffs, scrapes, and tire marks on walls and doors along the way.

On the other hand, specifying a simple wall-mounted bike hook on the wall in each storage room might go a long way towards demonstrating a good faith effort.

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