NC 2009 SSc4.2: Alternative Transportation—Bicycle Storage and Changing Rooms

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    …But you can’t make it drink. In other words, bike racks and showers will probably not be enough to encourage biking in an area that’s unfriendly to bicyclists. If you’re thinking of pursuing this credit, first consider the realities of the neighborhood around your project. Is it realistic that building occupants will ride bicycles and make use of the bike racks and storage or the shower facilities? It’s important to consider whether the intent of this credit will bear out in reality or if your resources might be better allocated elsewhere.

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    This credit entails the costs of purchasing and installing the bike racks, as well as showers and changing facilities if you decide to provide those onsite. For smaller projects, the additional...

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51 Comments

Shriram Bhide Oct 30 2009

Bike Racks

Does the bike storage need to be indoors? What does secured storage mean for LEED credit?
What is the cost of say a 5 bike ribbon rack:
Cost of High efficiency bike rack per bike:
Ballpark cost for providing a shower stall:
Does the shower stall have to be seperate for each sex if only one shower stall is actually required by calculations?

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Joshua Radoff replied Principal, LEEDuser Primary Author, YRG sustainability Nov 05 2009

Bikes do not have to be indoors. For residential, they have to be covered. If you want to put them indoors to do so, you can.
Bike racks: they range from about $200 - $600 and can fit 4 – 8 bikes. Estimate $60/bike.
The shower stall can be unisex. That is one is fine for either sex.

Emmanuel Pauwels replied Apr 15 2010

What is the definition of secure? We provide bycicle storage at the entrance but visitors must use a lock to make sure their bike is locked. Does that count?

Tristan Roberts replied Editor – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, LLC Apr 15 2010

Yes, as long as the residents will be able to secure their bikes with a lock, that works. Just providing an unlocked space, or a  space in which bicycles cannot be secured, would not be compliant.

Emmanuel Pauwels replied Jun 01 2010

Tristian,
So if I understand correctly, it is ok if FTE´s have to bring their own lock, as long as they can easily lock the bike.

Tristan Roberts replied Editor – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, LLC Jun 01 2010

Yes, it's not expected to provide a lock, given that bike users usually have their own, and the logistical problems this would present. They just need an available place to lock the bike.

Martin Mechtenberg Nov 21 2009

shift work

This question is really in regards to NC 2.2, but I assume the same would apply here: Do projects with shift work need to provide bike racks for the FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. largest shift, or for two shifts worth of FTE to account for overlap?

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Tristan Roberts replied Editor – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, LLC Nov 22 2009

Martin, I would have to double-check if this applies to NC 2.2 (it probably does), but in LEED 2009 there are two factors that apply to this credit, a) # of building users at peak periods, and b) FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories..

You're supposed to use FTE to determine the number of showers provided — so use the largest volume shift for that. For the bike racks, the measurement of users at peak periods would probably need to factor in a higher volume of users at shift overlaps. This number is quite likely higher than FTE.

Rick Ferrara replied AIA, LEED BD+C, Gensler Jun 01 2010

I have never seen any requirement that the shift change would need to be factored in, as this could double the storage capacity required. I agree with Tristan about how the FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. is likely applied.

Emmanuel Pauwels Jan 26 2010

FTE´s

We are working on a cultural centre where there will be office space as well. There is no number of FTE´s given by the project owner. Are there any standard rules or guidelines that have to be used to determine the amount of FTE´s or can we define a number of FTE´s ourselves?

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Rick Ferrara replied AIA, LEED BD+C, Gensler Jun 01 2010

This should be a common question that's asked in the first Eco-Charrette with the Client. We ask them to develop a number and get it to us with in the first week. Most have a pretty good idea of staff count, and then we help them estimate customers / visitors.

If the staff doesn't travel much and works a single shift you might use the furniture plan and deduct 1 or 2 to allow for vacations, sick time, and people traveling to other locations.

Calculating visitors will be another issue, but your going to need to develop this to determine parking capacities.

Emmanuel Pauwels Jan 26 2010

showers

If a project has 5 FTE´s, this would imply showers for 0.25 FTE´s. Does this mean that at least 1 shower needs to be provided?

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Tristan Roberts replied Editor – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, LLC Jan 27 2010

I got 5 x 0.5% = 0.025, but the main point is that you have to provide at least one shower to earn the credit.

Doing the math and rounding up in this case, 1 is correct.

Marian Keeler Senior Associate Simon & Associates, Inc. Jan 27 2010

Peak Transients

If a college student union building has 3300 peak transient users, do we need to supply bike racks for 5% = 165?? That seems excessive. Ours is a LEED 2009 project, so CIRs no longer act as precedent.

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Mara Baum replied Sustainability Coordinator, Anshen + Allen Architects Jan 27 2010

I would say not only that yes, you do, but also yes, you probably should. 165 bike racks may sound like a lot, but so does 3300 users. College students are often more likely to travel by bike than are people in the general population. If this is not the case on the campus you're working for, then perhaps this isn't the best credit to pursue.

Keep in mind that bike racks can be within 200 yards of any usable building entry, which can include existing bike racks at nearby buildings. (Using those bike racks means that they can't be counted towards other LEED projects on campus.)

Also, don't forget to include FTEs in addition to the transient users. They will require shower facilities in or near the building; the transient users do not.

John Beeson Chief Mystic in Resident betterENVIRONMENT, LLC Feb 11 2010

Hotels (w/ conference space), FTE, & bike racks/showers - WEc3?

Many CIRs address this to an extent, but it seems there might be multiple strategies. (Hotels near transit can exclude guest occupants- v2.2 1/23/09, modifying the FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. to place guests in the transients category - v2.1 6/20/2008, etc). And many of the referenced CIRs are built up from College Campuses, then Airports, but Hotels still seem a little mysterious.

For FTE it is clear: CIR 6/20/2008 and the guest belong in transient calculations.

But would guests count toward a Residential occupancy (same usage rate essentially as a home, i.g. there at morning and night)?

Based on this CIR, guest would only be transient in the correct FTE, right? Whereby certain transient populations can be excluded from the calculations in determining the number of required bike storage spaces and showers.

This credit is really about making biking more convenient for full time users, whereas in WEc3.1, FTE numbers have an impact on usage and occupancy numbers effect overall end water use (and water reduction).

It seems awkward then to place hotel guests in transient for WEc3.1 as guests are more likely to shower and use water fixtures.

I'm posting this same inquiry in WEc3.1-3.2 in regards to usage rates for hotel guests.

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Jean Marais b.i.g. Bechtold INGENIEURGESELLSCHAFT MBH Feb 16 2010

Are Bikes and Showers Green?

A collegue asked me, "if all the associated CO2Carbon dioxide and energy of my shower (heating the water, treating the waste water, pumping the water) was compared to my 1 hr commute in to work, which would be worse?".

Any thoughts?

I would take the specific heat of water, and an energy saving shower volume of water and compare the energy consumed to that of an hour commute in my car...to start with.

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Rick Ferrara replied AIA, LEED BD+C, Gensler Jun 01 2010

I think they're over thinking this... tell him it's an indoor air quality issue.

Bill Swanson PE, LEED AP BETA Design Feb 16 2010

Cost per mile driven.

I'm going to use some vauge numbers to determine a car's total cost per mile driven.
$28,400 - Average price of a car sold in the US
25 mpg - Assumed average mileage of car in US
150,000 - Assumed average life of car.
$2.50 - Low estimate of cost of 1 gallon of gasoline.
$1,000 - Cost of oil changes during life of car.
$5,000 - Assumed cost of minimal maintenace & repairs.
$12,000 - Assumed cost of 10 years of insurance.

$28,400 cost of car + $15,000 cost of total gasoline + $1,000 for oil changes + $5,000 for misc maint. + $12,000 for insurance = $61,400

$61,400 / 150,000 miles = 40.9 cents/mile as my own estimate. Not to far off from the Fed's 50 cents/mile reimbursement.

1 hour commute is about 50 miles so the commute cost that worker $20.45. I'd be surprised if a shower & bike with all of it's infrastrure averaged close to this cost. Anyone else want to do that math?

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Jean Marais b.i.g. Bechtold INGENIEURGESELLSCHAFT MBH Feb 16 2010

I don't know how accurate this is but

Link

Hot shower
The shower uses up to 5 gallons of water per minute. It takes 440 BtuA unit of energy consumed by or delivered to a building. A Btu is an acronym for British thermal unit and is defined as the amount of energy required to increase the temperature of 1 pound of water by 1 degree Fahrenheit, at normal atmospheric pressure. Energy consumption is expressed in Btu to allow for consumption comparisons among fuels that are measured in different units. to heat one gallon of water, or 2200 Btu per minute. Thus, a 10 minute shower uses 50 gallons of water and 22,000 Btu of energy.

Cars
Each gallon of gasoline is equivalent to 125,000 Btu. At 30 miles per gallon, i.e. 0.033 gallons per mile, my 4 mile journey to work (which takes about 1/2 hr in berlin) gives me 0.133 gallons which is 16667 Btu. Is that right?

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Bill Swanson replied PE, LEED AP, BETA Design Feb 16 2010

If this is a LEED building the shower will likely use 2.5 gallons per minute, but more likely 1.8 gallons per minute. The default setting in the WEc3 template is a 5 minute shower duration. Most showers are a mixture of hot and cold water. I don't know what percentage. I can guess 75% hot and 25% cold.

1.8 gpm * 5 minutes * 440 BTUA unit of energy consumed by or delivered to a building. A Btu is an acronym for British thermal unit and is defined as the amount of energy required to increase the temperature of 1 pound of water by 1 degree Fahrenheit, at normal atmospheric pressure. Energy consumption is expressed in Btu to allow for consumption comparisons among fuels that are measured in different units. * 75% = 2,970 Btu.
Compared to your 16,667 Btu value for the 4 mile car ride.

There is embodied energy1. Embodied energy is the energy used during the entire life cycle of a product, including its manufacture, transportation, and disposal, as well as the inherent energy captured within the product itself. 2. The energy expended in the process of creating a product, often including the fuel value of its constituent parts as well as transportation to its point of use. in the shower construction, plumbing, pumping, and also bike construction. And in the car's construction. The best way I know of to estimate this total energy cost is the total dollar cost to construct and maintain.

Tristan Roberts replied Editor – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, LLC Mar 02 2010

I just wrote out a detailed response with my own calculations but then lost them with an errant keystroke! Drat.

My quick calculations, based on kwhA kilowatt-hour is a unit of work or energy, measured as 1 kilowatt (1,000 watts) of power expended for 1 hour. One kWh is equivalent to 3,412 Btu., showed about 2.4 kwh for heating the water -- and just a wild guess of that same about for potable waterPotable water meets or exceeds EPA's drinking water quality standards and is approved for human consumption by the state or local authorities having jurisdiction; it may be supplied from wells or municipal water systems. provision and subsequent treatment -- so 5 kwh. And, 24 kwh for a 10-mile commute. I think the shower comes out of top.

Question -- most people would take a shower at home anyway, so showering at work replaces that. Many people would also shower when they get home anyway. Probably a lot of people will shower after returning home on the bike. So, it's not definitive whether bicycling adds overall showering. Probably it does on average, but not by as much as you imply in your question.

Mara Baum replied Sustainability Coordinator, Anshen + Allen Architects Mar 02 2010

A few other factors:

-the BtuA unit of energy consumed by or delivered to a building. A Btu is an acronym for British thermal unit and is defined as the amount of energy required to increase the temperature of 1 pound of water by 1 degree Fahrenheit, at normal atmospheric pressure. Energy consumption is expressed in Btu to allow for consumption comparisons among fuels that are measured in different units. (and water and possibly chemicals, if not organic) involved with growing the additional food one must consume to commute by bike
-the enormous difference in paved area (heat island) required for a car than for a bike, and the saved infrastructure as a result of widespread bike commuting
-the lower air pollution from fewer cars on the road and reduced obesity problems resulting from biking or walking to work, so Btus saved from less hospital infrastructure

I know this is all theoretical, but it's not exactly apples to apples.

Jean Marais replied b.i.g. Bechtold INGENIEURGESELLSCHAFT MBH Mar 03 2010

Good answeres, ladies and gentlemen, ALL! Thank you.

Premnath Sundharam Architectural Designer DLR Group Feb 22 2010

Convention Center - Trasient Users for Bicycle Racks

Our project is to build a new hotel and add an exhbit hall to an existing convention center and to add more meeting rooms and ballrooms.

Based on previous CIRs we are ruling out the hotel guests from the Bike rack calcs.
The total users of the meeting spaces during peak (which I assume is the code maximum at all the meeting spaces without taking any diversities for double count of the occupant) is 8,484 people. Say we have 200 FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. staff at both the hotel and the meeting spaces, then our total building user count for the bike rack calc is 8,684 people. This would require 433 bike racks at 5%. 433 bike racks seems excessive. How do we take into account that most of the meeting space users will be the hotel guests?

In general, how do heavy transient user projects like convention centers treat the bike rack calculations?

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Mara Baum replied Sustainability Coordinator, Anshen + Allen Architects Mar 02 2010

Good question. I can take a guess at the answer, but am not certain of the best approach. In general, projects with high transient populations are actually required to install the number of bike racks required by the credit. While 433 bike racks sounds like a lot, so does 8,484 people. You might try to determine whether or not your client will rent the meeting spaces based on code maximum occupancies, or other criteria. If it's the latter, your transient count will drop.

A CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide ruling dated 9/14/2006 implies that the convention center visitors need to be included in the bike rack calcs -- "It is not acceptable to automatically exclude all transient visitors from these calculations as it is reasonable to expect that some of the visitors to the retail shops, conference center, theater, and gaming facilities could potentially arrive on a bicycle..."

Although it's likely that some of the convention center visitors are staying in the hotel, there's probably not a way to directly prove or link this. You could try a CIR that asks to deduct number of hotel rooms from the convention center visitor count, but since it's possible that 100% of the guests could be coming from outside of the hotel, I'm not sure this would fly. Even convention facilities that most often accommodate out of town guests usually also hold events geared toward locals.

There are several LEED certified convention centers -- you might look and see if any of those got the bike rack credit, and if yes, how they did the calculations. You can probably search for this on the USGBC website, on BuildingGreen's case study pages, or on Google.

Premnath Sundharam replied Architectural Designer, DLR Group Mar 03 2010

Hello Mara,
Thanks for your response. I understand that a facility which could anticipate 8,000 people could potentially anticipate 400 bike rack users.

Rather than try to tackle it from reducing the number of bike racks required, I wanted to approach it from the intent of the credit. The intent of the credit is to encourage people to use bikes and promote for a behavioral change in the way they commute.

So, I first wanted to understand how often the existing bike racks in the existing facility gets used and then find a way to promote behavioral change by way of introducing more bike rack options to the user.

The existing bike rack count is based on local code that requires total bike racks at 5% of max parking capacity. I spoke with the convention center facility manager and found out that the existing bike racks are primarily used for Traffic Control. It appears that, say if the convention center exhibit hall is rented for an event that attracts local community, then the renter of the exhibit hall would also rent the bike racks to allow for their representatives to traffic control / police the people at the parking lot and so on. The actual number of users that really use the bike racks to attend events seems to be very low.

So, on an average, the facility manager believes that it would be fair to say only 10% of the convention center attendees for local events might actually use the bike racks available to attend the event.

So my approach to achieve this credit intent is to provide more bike racks than the current usage anticipating a future growth and change in behavioral pattern.
Applying Current usage rate to new construction portion:
Hotel Guests, Retail Customers, Visitors, Employees are the four types of users at this facility.

Based on the proforma for the hotel, we know that the expected occupancy is 70%. So we have 787 guests at 70% = 551 guests. Based on a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide dated 9/14/2006, hotel guests can be eliminated from the bike rack calcs if they are believed to be primarily from out of town. In our case, they are and hence I eliminated hotel guests from the below calcs.

Retail customers (Bar / lounge / restaurant / hotel lobby) per code is 328. Assuming that most of the retail customers will be the hotel guests, I am taking only 50% of the code max on Bar/lounge and Restaurant and 25% of the code max on Lobby for non-hotel transient visitors. So the new total for non-hotel retail customers is 148.

I got the actual maximum seating capacity for all the meeting rooms and ballrooms at the hotel and the convention center. The seating capacity chart for some rooms share the exact code occupancy but some are lower than code. Total visitors per seating capacity = 6195. Even though some of the convention center visitors could be the hotel guests, as you pointed out, it could entirely be local people, so I am not reducing visitor count for hotel guests.

Total employees at both hotel and convention center (at peak) is 145

Total transient visitors = Retail Customers (148) + Visitors (6,195) + Employees (145) = 6,488 (Excluding Hotel Guests)

Applying the current usage pattern of only 10% of the people anticipated to use bike racks, the number of people expected to use bike racks based on current behavioral pattern is 6,488 x 0.1 = 649. Required bike racks to meet current usage pattern = 5% of expected people using bike racks = 649 x 0.05 = 33 bike racks.

Approach ONE to promote behavioral change:

Simply double the number of bike racks required to meet current usage pattern to allow for more usage and eventually change the behavioral pattern. So provide 66 bike racks.

Approach TWO to promote behavioral change:
1. Convert the retail customers and visitors to FTEs based on the amount of time per day and number of events in a year they are anticipated to attend at the convention center
2. Provide bike racks for the new transient users’ total

I found out that the convention center meeting rooms are expected to have 60 events per year. At two days per event on an average, the expected number of days the meeting rooms are anticipated to be used is 120 days. At four hours a day maximum on average per visitor, the FTE count for Visitors comes to 1430 ((6195 x (4/8)x 120) / (52x8x5) = 1430)

Assuming the retail spaces would see the same usage rate as the hotel guest rooms, the actual number of days in a year that the retail spaces would be see peak users is 70% of 365 = 250 days. At 3 hours per day per retail customer at the Bar and Restaurant and 1 hour per day per customer at the lobby, the FTE count for the Retail customers comes to 50.

Do the same FTE count for the employees over a year, the actual FTE count for employees comes to 165 (Assuming full time employees at 8 hours and half time at 4 hours)

So, the new total transient user = FTE Retail Customers (50) + FTE Visitors (1430) + FTE Employees (165) = 1,645

Providing bike racks at 5% for this new total brings the required bike rack count to 1,645 x 0.05 = 84.

Conclusion:
Approach TWO provides more bike racks than Approach ONE. Either of the two approaches provide more than double bike racks than the current usage rate. As the usage rate increases over the years, I may be able to get the convention center to agree to provide a valet bike parking during high demands on offsite locations.

We are planning to provide 84 bike racks on our design. At a minimum promoting the employees to use bike racks would begin to address the behavioral change. So we strategically located bike racks near the employee entrance and close to the Light Rail stop. We are providing double the required bike racks for the employees to promote more employees to use bikes. (Required 9, provided 20). The rest of the bike racks are geared towards the convention center visitors and are located near the bus stops. Through this approach we are gradually promoting the behavioral change rather than invest the entire infrastructure for bike racks today.

I apologize for the long response. Does this logic make sense?

Also, we have been exploring at how other convention centers achieved this credit (most of the LEED certified ones have achieved this credit). Will keep the forum posted.
Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Prem

Mara Baum replied Sustainability Coordinator, Anshen + Allen Architects Mar 03 2010

There's a lot here - I hope I can break my responses down in a way that make sense. There seem to be two questions: one is how to calc the occupant load as appropriate for this credit, and two, how to use that number to determine the number of bike racks needed.

For the first question, I would ask, is the bar/lounge/restaurant/retail all within the hotel itself, not the convention center? If not, then I don't think you can take a 50% reduction in the transient population count. If so, then maybe -- but I'm not sure. As for the lobby, I would suggest that everyone there is just passing through on their way to other destinations, so I wouldn't count them at all. If this is one of those great hotel lobbies that is really a destination in its own right, then I would count the number of seats (couches, chairs, etc.) and use that as the transient occupant load... plus, of course, FTEs who would be working there.

In your second approach, I don't think that converting visitors to FTE equivalents is appropriate here, because we're looking at a peak load condition. Also, I don't think I'd assume that the retail spaces would have the same occupancy as the hotel. If there's a big convention, then these spaces will be in full use (the hotel will probably be full) -- and this is the condition we're most interested in, since we're looking for a peak (not average) transient occupancy.

The second question is relatively straight forward -- you just take the occupancy number and multiply it by 0.05.

In your first approach, you say, "Applying the current usage pattern of only 10% of the people anticipated to use bike racks, the number of people expected to use bike racks based on current behavioral pattern is 6,488 x 0.1 = 649." This is the type of calc you would use for LEED (with whatever occupancy load you end up with), although the LEED requirement is for 5% not 10%. However, I really don't understand this next step: "Required bike racks to meet current usage pattern = 5% of expected people using bike racks = 649 x 0.05 = 33 bike racks." This calculation is not a part of LEED. Also, the current usage rate is not relevant for LEED calculations.

As for your approaches to behavioral change, anything you do is of course great, but this is not directly related to LEED. The exemplary performanceIn LEED, certain credits have established thresholds beyond basic credit achievement. Meeting these thresholds can earn additional points through Innovation in Design (ID) or Innovation in Operations (IO) points. As a general rule of thumb, ID credits for exemplary performance are awarded for doubling the credit requirements and/or achieving the next incremental percentage threshold. However, this rule varies on a case by case basis, so check the credit requirements. option for this credit involves a comprehensive transportation management plan, not adding more bike racks. If we look beyond LEED for a moment to discuss behavioral change, I would suggest things like providing free maps of local bike routes, bike-buddy programs, and connections to safe (often smaller) streets and local bike routes, possibly working with the local transportation department if necessary. Also, providing bike racks in places that are covered or perceived to be safer (e.g. next to a guard station) can also go a long way. I am a big fan of bike locker rentals for regular bike commuters.

In summary, you need to multiply your total FTEs + total peak transients by 0.05 to get the total number of bike racks needed. Note that my comments with regard to occupancy counts are just my best guess; GBCI has the final say on these matters.

There may be other, better intelligence out there on this issue, so if you find out how other convention centers have achieved this point, definitely share that with us in this forum -- thanks.

Jean Marais replied b.i.g. Bechtold INGENIEURGESELLSCHAFT MBH Mar 04 2010

Well done Premnath, you've successfully pointed out what a nightmare this calculation is for all high transient buildings.

I understand that 10% usage was what your research and questions to the facility manager came to...

Mara has a point that converting peak users to FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories., i.e. spreading their occupation over the space of a 8 hour day is tactically not appropriate. I personally hate it when all the bike racks are full at peak times.

However, I would like to also say that often these big convention centers are located outside of town or on city limits accessable only by a train link or by car. Out on the motor way there are no bike paths and biking to these centers is out of the question from a safety point of view.

Some city center centers are otherwise quite accessable by bike for the local attendants. What percentage of convention center attendants is local also depends on the type of convention. The convention type will change for every convention and their may be hundreds in a year.

A one size fits all solution here seems unlikely to come out. For starters the USGBC and LEED should give more tips here. What fits for an office can't always be made to fit everywhere.

In your case I would find a number for the peak local users and add the FTE employee count to it as the sum to which to multiply 0.05.

Premnath Sundharam replied Architectural Designer, DLR Group Mar 04 2010

Mara and Jean,
Thank you for your responses. I agree with Mara on the appropriateness of converting transient users into FTEs. My thought was, converting to FTEs could be one way to dilute the load down to just local users.

I got this idea of converting from a colleague who has successfully achieved this credit with GBCI through this approach on a Baseball Stadium which has similar occupancy type and rate of use.

Also, I toured another convetion center locally in town that has achieved this same credit. The size of this convention center is three times the size of our new addition and they have only 46 bike racks for the entire facility sprinklered around the facility and in the garage, which tells me that they probably provided bike racks just for the employees.

Also, googling on green convention centers, the following link highlights a few that has provided bike racks.

http://www.gcbl.org/planning/convention-center/green-convention-centers-...

Notice on the above link, Jackson Center is only providing bike racks for employees. So providing just for the employees seems to be the trend here.

Anyone who has any knowledge on these projects, please share your thoughts.

I will try to get some statistics on local users for the convention center and try to meet the required bike racks for at least the local PEAK users.

Thanks again for your time and thoughts.
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Mara Baum replied Sustainability Coordinator, Anshen + Allen Architects Mar 04 2010

One final comment - not all credits are appropriate for all projects; it's just the nature of the LEED system. In an extreme case, for example, I would never recommend pursuing this credit for a convention center in the middle of nowhere with just highway access.

This calculation is definitely difficult for any building with a high transient population -- stores, libraries, hospitals, community centers, etc. -- and you often have to make some assumptions about numbers. The important thing is to be able to back them up with sound logic, and when in doubt be as conservative as possible.

Gregg Schwieterman Mar 15 2010

Transportation Management Plan

File uploads for this credit require a comprehensive transportation management plan and quantifiable reduction in personal automobile use.
Any ideas on how I can approach this?

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Tristan Roberts replied Editor – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, LLC Mar 15 2010

Gregg, that upload is only required if you're aiming for an Exemplary PerformanceIn LEED, certain credits have established thresholds beyond basic credit achievement. Meeting these thresholds can earn additional points through Innovation in Design (ID) or Innovation in Operations (IO) points. As a general rule of thumb, ID credits for exemplary performance are awarded for doubling the credit requirements and/or achieving the next incremental percentage threshold. However, this rule varies on a case by case basis, so check the credit requirements. point via IDc1 for SSc4 as a whole. Are you?

Gregg Schwieterman replied Mar 15 2010

Thanks Tristan, we are not attempting the exemplary PerformanceIn LEED, certain credits have established thresholds beyond basic credit achievement. Meeting these thresholds can earn additional points through Innovation in Design (ID) or Innovation in Operations (IO) points. As a general rule of thumb, ID credits for exemplary performance are awarded for doubling the credit requirements and/or achieving the next incremental percentage threshold. However, this rule varies on a case by case basis, so check the credit requirements. point, so we should be in good shape.

Dimitris Klapsis replied Mar 23 2010

Our project is attempting the ID credit. Do you have any examples, or at lest any guidelines of what is considered an acceptable comprehensive transportation management plan?

We have bicycle racks, we have prefered parking for carsharing, we have a shuttle system to connect to high quality transit that is outside the 1/2 mile radius, and we have a program that promotes carpooling.

Would this be enough?

Mara Baum replied Sustainability Coordinator, Anshen + Allen Architects Apr 01 2010

I am working on getting some examples that we can upload here, but don't yet have client permission. In the mean time, I can give you some general guidelines and ideas.

As for any exemplary performanceIn LEED, certain credits have established thresholds beyond basic credit achievement. Meeting these thresholds can earn additional points through Innovation in Design (ID) or Innovation in Operations (IO) points. As a general rule of thumb, ID credits for exemplary performance are awarded for doubling the credit requirements and/or achieving the next incremental percentage threshold. However, this rule varies on a case by case basis, so check the credit requirements. ID credit, you need to be able to demonstrate a clear and (to the extent possible) quantitative benefit or improvement over the LEED credit in question. In your case, it sounds like the three things that you're doing are specifically addressing some or all of three LEED credits (SS 4.1, 4.2, and 4.4) but it's not clear as to whether or not you're going above and beyond them. An overall transportation management plan should include clear policies that show how the building owner is taking efforts to reduce conventional single occupancy vehicle programs in a way that is successful above and beyond the basic credit requirements.

For example, instead of just adding bike racks and showers, perhaps there is a company-wide program to educate people on commuter bike skills and safe routes to work, a bike-buddy program, reduced cost bike locks or equipment, etc. It would also be helpful to show a quantitative increase in bike commuting through a transportation survey. LEED likes numbers, so anything you can do to demonstrate performance will help.

Some of the other strategies that I have included for this ID credit include:

-Internet website to facilitate ridesharing
-Reduced membership costs for Zipcar, which is a carsharing program popular in some cities in which you can rent cars by the hour inexpensively.
-"Guaranteed ride home" program in which employees can be reimbursed for taxi rides home in the case of an emergency
-Bike shuttles (this enables people to ride the bus up a hill in the morning and ride their bike down it in the evening)
-Discounted and pre-tax transit passes
-A plan or purchasing policy that demonstrates a clear direction toward alternative fuels (for vehicles owned by the building owner, not individual employees/occupants)

Norma Aeschliman Apr 22 2010

Residential - Building Occupant Calc

we are working on a high rise residential project that will have 300 units. To calculate the amount of bike storage needed, do we average how many residents we assume will live in each unit? (1 bedroom = 1 resident, 2 bedroom = 1.5 residents, 3 bedroom = 2 residents, etc) or just count the number of units for this calculation?

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Tristan Roberts replied Editor – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, LLC Apr 22 2010

Norma, the SSc4.2 credit language specifies occupants, not units. I would go with the number of occupants you anticipate for each unit, on average. It seems like your numbers are a little low, though. Wouldn't lots of 1BR units have two residents, and 3BR units might have 3–6? You have some discretion in setting these numbers but your reviewer will probably be looking for a realistic count.

Jean Marais replied b.i.g. Bechtold INGENIEURGESELLSCHAFT MBH Apr 23 2010

p53 LEED v3 Userguide gives this guidance regarding FTEFull-time equivalent (FTE) represents a regular building occupant who spends 8 hours a day (40 hours a week) in the project building. Part-time or overtime occupants have FTE values based on their hours per day divided by 8 (or hours per week divided by 40). Transient Occupants can be reported as either daily totals or as part of the FTE. Residential occupancy should be estimated based on the number and size of units. Core and Shell projects should refer to the default occupancy table in the Reference Guide appendix. All occupant assumptions must be consistent across all credits in all categories. calcs:

"For projects that include residential spaces, estimate the number of residents based on the number and size of units. Generally, assume 2 residents per 1-bedroom unit, 3 residents per 2-bedroom unit, etc. If occupancy is not known, see Appendix 1, Default Occupancy Counts, for occupancy count requirements and guidance."

Therese Malm May 24 2010

Changing facilities

Are there any special demands regarding design of changing facilities? We are planning to install a shower in the handicap lavatory at each level in an office building i.e. more showers than needed according to LEED. Is a handicap lavatory with shower enought as changing facility? There will be some hooks on the wall for clothes etc. and if the possible a hinged bench or stool will be placed in the lavatory.

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Rick Ferrara replied AIA, LEED BD+C, Gensler Jun 01 2010

Therese, check ADA for the bench requirements. Changing rooms are required to have a permanently mounted bench 24"x 48" (as I recall) affixed to a wall. If it's hinged the operating force must meet the <5#'s of pull (with a closed fist). Larger or smaller benches are NOT allowed, as the law is very specific on the size. Stools are NOT allowed.

Therese Malm replied Jun 02 2010

Is ADA mentioned in LEED or where do I find it?

Rick Ferrara replied AIA, LEED BD+C, Gensler Jun 02 2010

The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) is federal legislation that was enacted in 1991. It covers most all projects built in the US (some federal projects are strangely exempt, but not most). The legislation is a civil rights act, and only enforced through federal lawsuits. There is no effective department to seek assistance in interpretation. Some states have adopted "parallel" state laws which are enforced and do have departments which can help you.

Basically, if you have anything to do with the design of buildings in the US, you best get really familiar with this law.

Before you start trying to simply look at the pictures, you need to read this document, starting in the front to determine what is required where. Simply looking at the diagrams is misleading.

Main Page link:
http://www.ada.gov/stdspdf.htm

Download-able PDF:
http://www.ada.gov/adastd94.pdf

See page 550, which reads:
4.35.4 Bench. Every accessible dressing room shall have a 24 in by 48 in (610 mm by 1220 mm) bench fixed to the wall along the longer dimension. The bench shall be mounted 17 in to 19 in (430 mm to 485 mm) above the finish floor. Clear floor space shall be provided along-side the bench to allow a person using a wheelchair to make a parallel transfer onto the bench. The structural strength of the bench and attachments shall comply with 4.26.3. Where installed in conjunction with showers, swim-
ming pools, or other wet locations, water shall not accumulate upon the surface of the bench and the bench shall have a slip-resistant surface.

There are also requirements in there about accessories such as coat hooks.

Tristan Roberts replied Editor – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, LLC Jun 02 2010

Therese, I think your plan for the changing room sounds fine, particularly with the hooks and the ADA-compliant bench per Rick's comments.

Therese Malm replied Jun 03 2010

The project is situated in Europe and we have other disability legislations. If we follow our legislation regarding design of bench in a handicap area would that be ok with LEED? The lavatory is a little bit to small for the size of bench in accordance to ADA.

Tristan Roberts replied Editor – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, LLC Jun 03 2010

Yes, I would say it's okay with LEED.

Rick Ferrara replied AIA, LEED BD+C, Gensler Jun 05 2010

I agree- LEED doesn't get specific as to the features of a changing room.

Stephen Smiley PSE Architects Jun 02 2010

Existing shower facility

We are working on a Ranger Station, and there is an existing shower and changing facilities on site within the required distance of 200 yards. If we count this towards achieving credit SSc4.2, do we need to include it in our LEED project boundary for all other credits even though it is existing?

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Tristan Roberts replied Editor – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, LLC Jun 02 2010

You do not need to include it in the LEED project boundary. It is similar to having a health club available within 200 yards, as discussed in the Getting It Done tab above.

Rebecca Molldrem JLG Architects Jun 03 2010

Shower facility distance

When they describe the distance to the shower facility from the building entry, are they asking for distance basically to the door of the shower/changing room? We have a campus project where we want to use the sports center for shower/changing compliance. It is 550 feet from building to building, but the shower changing rooms once you go down the stairs and the hall are just beyond 600 feet, or more than 200 yards. Which is the correct way to go about this?

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Mara Baum replied Sustainability Coordinator, Anshen + Allen Architects Jun 07 2010

I think this is pretty straight forward in the Reference Guide: "...showering facilities can be shared between buildings as long as the facilities are within 200 yards' walking distance of the entrance to the project building". I would take this to mean that you should measure the distance from the shower room to one of your project's entries.

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