NC v2.2 MRc2: Construction Waste Management

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  • It’s not just about recycling

    This credit focuses on diverting waste from landfills by finding multiple alternatives for end uses of the waste, namely recycling, reuse on site, donation for reuse on another site, or resale. All of these diversion methods count towards credit compliance—MRc2.1 with a 50% construction waste diverted for one point and MRc2.2 with a 75% diversion rate for two points.

    Look for opportunities to prevent the generation of waste on construction sites because the less waste you generate, the less you have to recycle or reuse to earn the credit.

    There are two different approaches to recycling construction and demolition (C&D...

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Daniel Forino Project Engineer Horizon Engineering Associates
Jan 12 2012
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Handling Diverted Material For Other Projects

In an effort to get the EP credit, our project team was curious if we could Divert waste & debris from a neighboring project on a college campus and take credit for the waste stream diverted. It makes sense and doesn't at the same time to me as to why it would be acceptable.

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Jeremy Kuhre Sustainable Buildings & Operations Manager, Sustainable Solutions Corporation Jan 13 2012 Member 166 Thumbs Up

Daniel, unfortunately this is not permitted by the LEED rating system. See a similar situation in LEED Interpretation ID#2316 by logging into the USGBC.org website.

You could still achieve the EP point with just the one building if you reach 95% diversion. In fact, adding another building wouldn't necessarily help you get there since the point is awarded based on percentage and not on absolute quantity diverted. Depending on your location in the country, some CW haulers/recyclers can achieve this level of diversion.

Having said all of that, I certainly don't want to discourage waste diversion on the adjacent project! It just won't contribute to your LEED project...

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Nadav Malin USGBC LEED Faculty, President BuildingGreen, Inc.
Jan 05 2012
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Reviewer rejected existing building contribution to diversion

We’ve submitted a library for certification that includes an existing building and an addition. The addition is big enough that we can’t claim any Building Reuse points under MRc1. Instead, we included the existing building as part of our construction waste management points under MRc2, which gets us a great diversion rate.

This is encouraged not just here in LEEDuser, but also in the Reference Guide. At the end of the intro to the MR section for the NC 2.2 Ref Guide, it says: “Projects that are incorporating existing buildings but do not meet the requirements for MR Credit 1 may apply the reused portions of the exiting buildings towards the achievement of MR Credit 2.” That guidance is repeated at the end of the MRc2 “Approach and Implementation” section.

But we got this response from the reviewer:
“However, some of the diverted materials (concrete debris and all existing building materials listed as reused on site) appear to be reused on site, and therefore do not meet credit requirements. Per the LEED Reference Guide for New Construction v2.2, Third Edition, MRc2.1 and MRc2.2 apply to materials that leave the site.”

I only have version 1 of the Ref Guide, so I checked the errata. The only reference I could find to this issue was in the errata to the 2nd edition, which directly contradicts what the reviewer is saying: “Insert as the last sentence of the Approach & Implementation section: “Materials salvaged and reused on-site can contribute to this credit if they are not included in Credit 3 calculations.” “

Does anyone else have experience with this issue? I’m submitting a formal query, but thought I’d check here as well.

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Rosamaría Mellone Green Building and Alternative Energy
Jul 06 2011
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Provisional Structural Steel

We are working in a very complex (shape) building in México, in order to develop it correctly provisional steel structure is used to support some permanent elements.
This provisional structure is going to be used especially for this project only.
If the steel is going to be returned to the manufacturer and melted in order to produce other elements for different projects or different use, can it count for the calculations? or does it count as a working tool?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jul 12 2011 Moderator

I would count it for this credit. It seems to meet the intent of diverting something from the landfill that might otherwise be a waste material. (In practice, of course, it's very unlikely that this would be a waste material—but the credit threshold is set pretty high.)

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Kathy Buck Senior Project Manager Neumann/Smith Architecture
Jun 20 2011
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Estimating tonnage

We are completing a project for a local airport faciity where we have removed nearly all of the existing asphalt parking area. The majority of this existing asphalt has been been taken off-site and weighed and this has been carefully tracked as part of our Construction Waste Management Plan.

However, there is still a significant area where we will be using the existing "extra" asphalt on site for our project directly as pulverized sub-base for some new parking lot area as part of our project AND there is sufficient material that will also be used on site but NOT in our LEED project area but still on the Owner's property (also as pulverized sub-base for asphalt parking areas).

Since these asphalt quantities will not be taken off-site by a hauler and thus weighed and logged, can we estimate their tonnage based on the volume of the asphalt? This is all still material being diverted from the waste stream so we still want to count it toward this credit, but it will require the estimation of the tonnage based on volume.

Can this be explained in the narrative and have a chance of being accepted?

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Jeremy Kuhre Sustainable Buildings & Operations Manager, Sustainable Solutions Corporation Dec 29 2011 Member 166 Thumbs Up

Kathy, I would propose that this is an acceptable method for tracking the asphalt. First, it is absolutely fine to re-use the asphalt off-site and still count it toward MRc2 (http://bit.ly/tHoTZe LEED Interpretation ID#2464).

Second, there are several indications in the reference guide that support a calculation like that you suggest. MRc1 allows building re-use to contribute to MRc2. The actual language on pg. 352 of the 2009 BD+C Reference Guide (sorry, didn't have my 2.2 handy) is "determine an approximate weight or volume for existing building elements." This establishes precedent in my mind for counting materials that cannot be physically measured for volume or weight. Also, as mentioned in the post below, each version of the Reference Guide has included a volume to mass conversion table which also supports this approach.

The only other idea that is out there would be to actually calculate the volume/weight of the asphalt using trucks with load cells or known volumes during transport. Please let us know how this gets resolved!

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Chris DeVolder 360 Architecture
Jun 15 2011
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Waste Diversion Methods - Conversion Factors

Starting construction for a project and several contractors have balked at being able to have everything that is diverted either weighed or logged with tickets. The CM has found a document that provides a conversion from Volume of most materials to weight. I believe that the table was produced by the California Integrated Waste Management Board and uses their own studies along with those by FEECO Incorporated, the Tellus Institute of Boston and the US EPA for conversion factorsEstimates are presented in customary U.S. units. Floorspace estimates may be converted to metric units by using the relationship: 1 square foot is approximately equal to 0.0929 square meters. Energy estimates may be converted to metric units by using the relationship: 1 Btu is approximately equal to 1,055 joules; one kilowatthour is exactly equal to 3,600,000 joules; and one gigajoule (109 joules) is approximately 278 kilowatthours (kWh).. Has anyone had any success using such a method to log Waste Diversion using weight. I believe that most diverted waste will be weighed or logged with tickets, but it is clear that some will not. If you have had success, please share any tips that might help solidify our numbers. Thanks.

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Gerren Wagner Energy Opportunities Dec 13 2011 Guest 20 Thumbs Up

There is no specific conversion factor for materials that is accepted by LEED. In the LEED-NC v2.0 Reference Guide (blow the dust off that one!) solid waste conversion factorsEstimates are presented in customary U.S. units. Floorspace estimates may be converted to metric units by using the relationship: 1 square foot is approximately equal to 0.0929 square meters. Energy estimates may be converted to metric units by using the relationship: 1 Btu is approximately equal to 1,055 joules; one kilowatthour is exactly equal to 3,600,000 joules; and one gigajoule (109 joules) is approximately 278 kilowatthours (kWh). were listed:

Mixed waste 350 (lb/cy)
Wood 300
Cardboard 100
Gypsum 500
Rubble 1,400

Conversion rates are typically not questioned unless they seem outlandish. It also helps that you're citing reputable sources for your conversion factors.

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Alicja Florczak Skanska
Jun 13 2011
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tracking sheet from the toolkit

I tried to use the tracking sheet from the documentation toolkit. It seems to be very useful, however I get errors from time to time and I don't know what's incorrect, because the icons are blocked and I can't see the equations. E.g. Every time I put a number in a "disposed in landfill" column in the month tally, it shows me #ADR! in the master sheet. I assume the equation in the master tally just adds the numbers from the month sheets, so I don't know what's wrong.
Is there a possibility to get the unlocked version of the tracking sheet, or can someone advice me how to overcome this problem?
Thanks!

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Valerie Walsh Sustainable Design & Construction Consultants, Walsh Sustainability Group Jun 13 2011 Member 732 Thumbs Up

Alicja, I tried to re-create your issue by entering figures in each category under “Disposed in Landfill” on the Tracking Sheet but I could not duplicate your error message. It is working well. Is there any pattern as to when it triggers the error, such as a particular month or way the figure is entered that is different from other entries?

Tristan from LEEDuser would be the one who could answer your request about making the unlocked version available.

In the meantime, if you don’t figure out what is creating your input error, you could always re-create the Tracking document in-house using this one as the template, which I know is not the quickest fix!

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KAREN PETERSON Oct 06 2011 Guest 6 Thumbs Up

On our MRc2 credit we were asked to "Clarify". In the "Technical Advice" it reads: "Please provide documentation from the state regulating body stating the facility's average recycling rate. Alternatively, provide project-specific diversion rates".

The project we built is in Aliso Viejo, CA where it is mandatory that "CR&R" is used as the waste hauler. CR&R sorts and recylcles all the trash and construciton debris. I was getting quarterly reports from them listing the average diversion rate for each quarter. We submitted these but obviously these were'nt good enough. I have spent several days trying to find something from the State of California and have spoken to people at Calrecycle but no one seems to know where I can get "State Documentation" regarding the average recycling rate. Can I get some help on this?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Nov 12 2011 Moderator

Karen, if you have folks at the state cooperating with you, perhaps they could provide some sort of letter or inspection documentation backig up CR&R's numbers?

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Michelle Rosenberger Partner ArchEcology, LLC
May 11 2011
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Monthly Commingled Diversion Rate Regulatory Requirements

We are getting comments based on a 2005 v2.1 CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide (#3000) about a project in Los Angeles that seems to indicate that we cannot use monthly commingled diversion rates at all unless the "method of recording and calculating the recycling rate is regulated by a local or state government authority".

In WA state, our process is not the same as the City of Los Angeles. Our regulating body requires these facilities to get a solid waste handling permit that includes recycling and adhere to state priorities and goals for diversion. Recycling rate audits and annual reporting to the State are not required for facilities with these permits.

We have a mature recycling industry with commingled receivers we have used on dozens of successful projects. We have provided permits and reporting that indicates the receiver methodology for calculation. These documents have always worked before. And we find no additional detail in the 2009 reference manual or addenda regarding the regulatory part of this requirement.

Our receiver indicates he is getting the same request for this nonexistent regulatory information from other local projects. Are we to understand that no projects in the State of Washington will be able to get MRcr2 points anymore because we don't regulate our waste the way that the City of Los Angeles does? Does anyone have any insight into this?

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SERA Architects SERA Architects May 11 2011 Guest 95 Thumbs Up

Does WA have a state wide manadate regarding minimum watse diversion rates that should be achieved by all contracted MRF and recycling facilities? In our experience, using the mandate to demostrate waste diversion rates has been successful though this number is much lower than what would have been the actual diversion rate for the project. On a different note, using the facility diversion rate number as reflection of construction waste diverted can be a problem expecially in cases where waste is commingled and sorted as the percentage of waste diversion can be from other commercial waste sources that is not typical to a construction site.

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Michelle Rosenberger Partner, ArchEcology, LLC May 11 2011 Member 189 Thumbs Up

No, there is no state wide mandate just non-metric goals and priorities in the regulation. And yes, understood that monthly commingled diversion has its issues, but it is the predominant method on our sites.

We have 25+ certified projects representing every rating system, and all of them have achieved waste diversion points in the past based on this same documentation.

We are really struggling with how to deal with requirements that seem to change once they get in the reviewer's hands and end up penalizing projects that have been doing the "right thing" all along usually at some expense.

Obviously a project cannot change it's construction practices when it's already complete so we have to rely on the reference standards, manual and addenda to guide projects throughout design and construction. Can you point me toward where this regulatory requirement is spelled out so that we can advise ongoing and future projects?

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SERA Architects SERA Architects May 12 2011 Guest 95 Thumbs Up

Unfortantely there is no standard regulations unless the local goverment has something in place. Solid Waste is very much dependent on where you or your project is located and the rules there. In your situation where it is after the fact, the only option that may be of help is if some way you can track down records showing the MRF's average monthly diversion rates and attach with it a narrative that describes the MRF's sorting process and their partner recycling centers. It is unfrotunate that USGBC is using a blanket approach for documentation when the reality is that the whole solid waste industry is far from being a standard process.

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Valerie Walsh Sustainable Design & Construction Consultants, Walsh Sustainability Group May 26 2011 Member 732 Thumbs Up

I agree Michelle that more clarity is needed from USGBC on this regulatory requirement for comingledA process of recycling materials that allows consumers to dispose of various materials (such as paper, cardboard, plastic, and metal) in one container that is separate from waste. The recyclable materials are not sorted until they are collected and brought to a sorting facility. waste. We learned from a large national waste firm that they have attempted to get some interest in establishing industry standards that will meet this concern but have not received any support.
Just to make sure you are aware, the requirement itself is found on the v3 LEED Credit Form on LEED Online when you select "Comingled" in the data Table. That then triggers a new Comingled section to appear with this specific documentation upload requirement I have pasted below. It simultaneously triggers a new Comingled box to also appear in the Upload section with the same comingled upload requirements. It would be nice if this information did not take such sleuthing to find!
Below is the LEED credit form language:

Upload MRc2-2. For commingled waste provide documentation verifying the diversion rate of the waste. Documentation can be either a project specific diversion rate provided by the sorting facility or the average annual recycling rate for the sorting facility provided by the regulating local or state government authority.

I interpret the “project specific diversion rate” to be free of the regulating authority requirement, since it is actual separated waste weights or volumes specific to that project. Does anyone have reason to believe differently?

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Michelle Rosenberger Partner, ArchEcology, LLC May 27 2011 Member 189 Thumbs Up

Hi Valerie,
Thanks for the response. Yes, I am aware of the template statement which echoes the 2005 CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide they are using. It is, however, very unclear to me why such an "old" requirement has not been incorporated in the 2009 reference manual.

Like you, we advise clients during design and construction about LEED requirements, so we need to be able to rely on the reference materials published at the time of registration. Instead we are encountering more and more review comments that say "in future projects do this..." and requirements that appear only on templates. We actually didn't think that was possible in the "no precendent setting land of review comments and CIRs of old".

We understand that the online platform is more flexible than hardcopy resources, but we are getting the feeling that GBCI is out in front of USGBC rather than aligned. That's like trying to build a building when the code keeps changing along the way.

Yes, you are correct. The project specific diversion requirement is free of the regulatory issue. I have a project that just got reviewed that successfully took that approach. However, in WA 95% of our projects use commingled diversion rates. We have 8 projects currently in progress that will be penalized for doing the right thing that has been acceptable for others for the past 6 years.

Change and evolution of requirements are necessary and acceptable, but the rules of play need to be set at the beginning of the game or eventually there are going to be a lot of disgruntled players. The greatest value of LEED is that it creates a context in which green buildings can be compared apples to apples and encourages people to strive to implement sustainable measures they can quantify and understand. We are trying to raise all boats, right? These kind of midstream changes and surprise requirements that appear when it's too late to course correct are creating vast frustration and negative reinforcement for our clients, who then may not bother to attempt this next time.

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Keith Sanders Project Administrator Jacobs Engineering
May 10 2011
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Landfill Diversion of Roofing Material

WE have a major renovation project that is registered under NC2.2 New Construction, because the renovation is so extensive. Part of the renovation is the replacement of the flat mod. bit. roofing system. We have obtained the 75% landfill diversion on all of our other projects and were hoping to get at least the 50% rate for this project. Our Contractor is having a hard time with finding a way to recycle the Modified Bitumen roofing material and that is approximately 50% by both weight and volume of the demolition material. Does anybody know of a source or way to handle the recycling of that type of waste stream?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. May 19 2011 Moderator

Keith, is recycling into asphalt for roads an option? That's the best idea I can think of.

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Kay Mariano
Apr 07 2011
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Excess Concrete

Hi all,

In cases where in some batch of concrete mix there are some excess and the GC used that to create some concrete paver blocks to be used on high foot traffic locations on site can we consider that for the MRc2?
When the project is finished in construction and the concrete paver blocks will no longer be used, how should we treat those?

Thanks

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Apr 23 2011 Moderator

Katherine, I would say you could apply this to MRc2, but only if the paver blocks are diverted from the waste stream after construction. Perhaps through donation to a salvage store, another construction project, or take them to the GC"s next project?

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Linda Davisson Senior Consultant Sustainable Design Consulting
Apr 06 2011
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Comingling Documentation

Our project used comingling instead of sorting onsite and we indicated this methodology in the CWM Plan, however, we were recently denied the credit based on the fact that the Contractor listed the hauler and comingling sorting facility but did not list the end destination of all the recycled materials. Where does it state that this is required for credit compliance? And, if the sorting facility has multiple recycling destinations, do we just list them all, not knowing really where our project's materials ended up? Anyone have luck in providing back-up documentation for comingling?

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Valerie Walsh Sustainable Design & Construction Consultants, Walsh Sustainability Group Apr 06 2011 Member 732 Thumbs Up

Linda, you mention your CWM Plan but I am wondering what you provided for your uploaded backup documentation for the comingledA process of recycling materials that allows consumers to dispose of various materials (such as paper, cardboard, plastic, and metal) in one container that is separate from waste. The recyclable materials are not sorted until they are collected and brought to a sorting facility. waste. Did you include the verification document for the recycling facility the Contractor and hauler used that shows it is regulated by a local or state government with regards to the annual recycling rates being claimed? If not, perhaps that is the trigger. If the facility is not regulated but your recycled waste was sorted and weighed for your project specifically, I would certainly resubmit the credit and provide a spreadsheet from the sorting facility listing the recycling destinations for the various specific waste streams the project had. Sounds like the reviewer needs assurance that the waste ended up at appropriate recycling facilities following the facility sorting exercise.

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Linda Davisson Senior Consultant, Sustainable Design Consulting Apr 07 2011 Member 749 Thumbs Up

None of the LEED reference guides provide guidance on comingling requirements or documentation. Can you upload a sample of the "verification document for the recycling facility the Contractor and hauler used that shows it is regulated by a local or state government with regards to the annual recycling rates being claimed" that you speak of?

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Valerie Walsh Sustainable Design & Construction Consultants, Walsh Sustainability Group May 04 2011 Member 732 Thumbs Up

Linda - Per your request, we are looking to find a comingledA process of recycling materials that allows consumers to dispose of various materials (such as paper, cardboard, plastic, and metal) in one container that is separate from waste. The recyclable materials are not sorted until they are collected and brought to a sorting facility. verification document sample for you that is not confidential. In the meantime, you might request it of a recycling facility that is accustomed to documenting this way, even if it is outside your region.
By the way, you mention that none of the LEED reference guides gave you the comingled verification guidance that I mentioned. It is found on the v3 LEED Credit Form on LEED Online when you select "Comingled" in the data Table. That then triggers a new Comingled section to appear with this specific documentation upload requirement. It simultaneously triggers a new Comingled box to also appear in the Upload section with the same comingled upload requirements. It would be nice if this information did not take such sleuthing to find!

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Linda Davisson Senior Consultant, Sustainable Design Consulting May 04 2011 Member 749 Thumbs Up

Thanks, Valerie, a sample would be really helpful to provide to our Contractors.

I agree 'sleuthing' as become an integral part of LEED documentation! As part of our LEED process management, we are now advising all Team members to refer not only to the reference guides, but to the LEED Online forms, as they have additional criteria that does not appear in the reference guide and/ or addenda.

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Valerie Walsh Sustainable Design & Construction Consultants, Walsh Sustainability Group May 04 2011 Member 732 Thumbs Up

We advise the same. Prior to the v3 Reference Guides, documentation requirements were fairly well defined. It still required cross-checking with the LEED credit forms, but the documentation requirements section in the v3 Reference Guides are a clear departure from v2 and are very non-committal. I find it takes playing around with various scenarios in the v3 LEED credit forms to trigger all of the options to open to be able to get a fuller understanding of the documentation requirements.

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Michelle Rosenberger Partner, ArchEcology, LLC May 04 2011 Member 189 Thumbs Up

Linda,
We have a lot of projects doing commingled diversion and have seen these comments before. It sounds like you have three issues rolled up together.
The CWM plan is supposed to list the intended receivers for each type of recycled material you anticipate. Generally, that info comes from the hauler, and we see it most often as a standard looking page that they provide the contractor with their proposal.

The commingled documentation issue has two components. You can only use a monthly diversion rate in the template for your commingled waste if the receiver has a solid waste permit. That's the "verification that it's regulated" they are looking for. Then in addition, you need to upload the report that receiver issues that indicates their monthly diversion rate. As Valerie indicates, these permits and reports shouldn't be so hard to get. I could provide a sample but don't know how to upload documents to this forum for that purpose.

And boy, do I agree with you both about requirements on the credit forms. It makes things a lot harder to have some things show up online and can screw up bidders who didn't anticipate a requirement until they can get online and start trying checkboxes. And to add insult to injury things can get changed online midstream, making requirements different for different concurrent projects. Can be frustrating.

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Anne Harney Senior Associate, Ayers Saint Gross Architects + Planners Jan 03 2012 Member 11 Thumbs Up

We too are looking for further requirements relating to the comingling of construction waste. We have been unable to locate the LEED Online template related guidance identified by Valerie Walsh on May 4th, 2011. Has the template been revised? If so, is there anywhere else we can look?

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Emily Catacchio Sustainability Specialist, Wight and Company Jan 03 2012 Moderator

Anne,

It seems Valerie is describing some information that opens up in the credit form when you select comingledA process of recycling materials that allows consumers to dispose of various materials (such as paper, cardboard, plastic, and metal) in one container that is separate from waste. The recyclable materials are not sorted until they are collected and brought to a sorting facility.. Are you using the most up-to-date version of the form. If it is any version prior to v03 you should have your form updated. (You may lose information that is not one-to-one, so make sure you save everything first.) 

Generally the credit forms only show minimal information until you make selections. You could try downloading the static form from the Sample Forms Download page. The static version of the form should show you everything, then you'll be able to see which items to select within the live form on LEED-Online to get the information you're looking for.

Hope that helps!

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Jeremy Kuhre Sustainable Buildings & Operations Manager, Sustainable Solutions Corporation Jan 04 2012 Member 166 Thumbs Up

It seems that this issue has largely been cleared up. Just to add my two cents:

If the materials were weighed off-site (commingled-site specific), you should provide documentation from the sorting facility with the project specific diversion rate (most easily evidenced by uploading the weigh tickets from the hauler or recycler).

If the value of waste was calculated using the average annual recycling rate for a specific sorting facility (commingled-facility specific), it is acceptable as long as the facility's method of recording and calculating the recycling rate is regulated by a local or state government authority as previously mentioned. To document this approach, provide a letter from the state regulating body with the facility's average rate of recycling.

I have examples of both of these documentation methods, so I'll see what I can do to get them uploaded.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jan 17 2012 Moderator

An example provided by Jeremy (thanks!) has now been posted under the Doc Toolkit tab above.

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Green Builder Employee Consulting Firm
Apr 01 2011
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Diverted scrap wood

In my project, all of the scrap wood that comes off the construction site is given to the construction workers, for their personal use. Is there a way to provide documentation that this wood is in fact diverted? Since it is not being given to an oranization that can provide a stamp or documentation, I don't know if there is an "official" way to prove this.

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Kimberly Frith Sustainability Consultant, exp Apr 01 2011 Member 596 Thumbs Up

Could you try having the construction workers sign a form (like an invoice) stating the quantity and type of materials they took off-site, and provide photographs of the scrap wood to accompany it? Maybe also include on the form a clause that they are signing to not drive it to the landfill (you could ask them to state what they will use it for - such as future construction jobs, home improvement projects, donation to charity...).

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Apr 01 2011 Moderator

Seems like you need a reliable way to measure weight or volume. How about devoting a dumpster or plywood box with known volume to reusable wood, and when it it is full, note the measurement and open it up for workers to take home. There should be some safeguard that they are going to build with it, not burn it—perhaps you could document all of this on a sheet with the overall quantity, guidelines, and then have everyone who participates sign their name.

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Carrie Gordon
Jan 18 2011
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Landfill reuse

If the local landfill uses rubble and concrete to make new roads and barriers, can these materials taken to the landfill for this purpose count towards this credit as being material reuse? What documentation would be needed to prove this?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jan 20 2011 Moderator

Carrie, "alternative daily coverAlternative daily cover is material (other than earthen material) that is placed on the surface of the active face of a municipal solid waste landfill at the end of each operating day to control vectors, fires, odors, blowing litter, and scavenging." for landfills is allowed under MRc2. The use you're talking about seems to have higher value than ADC, so I would assume it's allowed.

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Lisa Starr DLA
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LEED Online Template - Need more rows

When entering information into the CWM template I ran out of rows. From what I can tell, I can't duplicate the page or manipulate it in any way. Is there some way that I can add an extra page or add more rows so the end calculation is still correct? I'd hate to have to carry all of the information over to excel after I spent all that time putting it into the template. Has anyone had this issue before?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Dec 21 2010 Moderator

I would start by asking GBCI to add more rows. They are often receptive to this kind of request.

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Valerie Walsh Sustainable Design & Construction Consultants, Walsh Sustainability Group Jan 25 2011 Member 732 Thumbs Up

If GBCI will add more rows to the template Lisa, that will be the best solution. In the meantime, however, depending on your entry types, you could combine some of your ‘like’ materials and haulers to consolidate the available entry lines. For the few consolidated entries, I would then provide a spreadsheet detail that gets uploaded under ‘Other Documentation’. It is a bit of a two-step process, but this way you get the end calculations you need without a full duplication effort.

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Mary Lea Tucker President Green Sage Consulting, LLC
Nov 18 2010
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Soil Cement - Is it construction debris or land clearing debris

Can soil cement that is going to be removed from the site and used as road grading material off-site be counted in Construction Waste Management caculations?

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Valerie Walsh Sustainable Design & Construction Consultants, Walsh Sustainability Group Nov 22 2010 Member 732 Thumbs Up

Good question Mary Lea. The credit definition for land clearing debris and excavated soil suggests that these are materials of an organic nature, as the Reference Guide specifically sites the exclusion of “soil, vegetation, and rocks” from the waste calculations. If the soil has been modified with Portland cement as you have suggested, then it would seem to fall closer into the category that is counted as construction waste for diversion, which includes asphalt, concrete, and masonry.

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Kath Williams Principal Kath Williams + Associates
Nov 11 2010
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Disposal of "not so hazardous" waste

Our project is a major renovation of a laboratory. It is being overseen very closely by state DEQ and materials are being tagged by that agency as to proper disposal, some of which is to go to a Class 2 landfill only. There is no possible way, legally, we can reuse many of the materials from deconstruction. Are the weights of these items count as "neutral" for this credit, that being, not counted as waste but not contributing to diverted? Do we need to supply documents from DEQ in regard to their disposal directives?

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Valerie Walsh Sustainable Design & Construction Consultants, Walsh Sustainability Group Nov 13 2010 Member 732 Thumbs Up

This would be a simple answer if your tagged materials were technically “hazardous” waste. Then, yes, it would be omitted from all of your credit calculations. Class 2 landfill material however is not as clear cut with regards to being defined as truly hazardous, as you indicated. If you believe that these materials cannot be reused or otherwise diverted and doing so is out of your control legally, then you can always make your case for excluding them. This would then be communicated in the narrative as a special circumstance or condition. I would not upload the DEQ documentation disposal directives in your application, but definitely have it in your files should it be requested.

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Lisa Logan LEED AP BD+C Green Ideas
Nov 05 2010
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Do portables count?

My project (a school) removed several portables to make way for the new school to be built. These portables were sold and the information tracked. Do you think this will be accepted a waste diversion? I am skeptical but what if I can prove that if they had not been sold they would have been sent to the landfill?

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Valerie Walsh Sustainable Design & Construction Consultants, Walsh Sustainability Group Nov 05 2010 Member 732 Thumbs Up

Lisa, I tend to agree with your instinct that if the portables could be sold and kept in service, then they were probably not diverted from the landfill. If you feel you have a compelling case that they were in fact tagged for the landfill and the team proactively diverted that action, then it is up to you to consider making the argument. Then there would be two levels of diversion to consider: 1) the portables are being kept in service for some purpose and have been fully diverted, or 2) they are being deconstructed for salvage. If they are being sold for “parts” so to speak, then I would divide the salvaged from the land-filled portions for your CWM numbers. If you decide to make the case and claim the diversion, I would not count on it to achieve the credit, since it is up for interpretation and could go the other way.

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Shevaun O'Connor Inland Technical Services
Oct 22 2010
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CWM MRc2 Calculator in metric?

I'm looking for an CWM calculator that functions the same way as the calculator in the toolkit but is in metric (kilograms). I haven't been able to find a good one anywhere, can anyone help me?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Oct 29 2010 Moderator

Maybe I'm missing something, but what's to stop you from ignoring the "tons" shown on the spreadsheet in the toolkit, and just enter your figures in kg? The volume-to-weight converter wouldn't work, but you don't need to use that.

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Yusuf Turab Managing Director, Y T Enterprises Jun 20 2011 Guest 46 Thumbs Up

Tristan, I am having the same issue. I managed to unprotect the dropdown sheet and change the volume to weight to metric by using the appropriate formulas but I cannot unprotect the remaining sheets without a password. Tons is not the same as metric tonnes and I am worried this might confuse the Recycling coordinator. It would be useful to be able to unprotect the sheet and change the headings. Can a you let us know the password?

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Paul Girello
Oct 20 2010
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combination of on-site and off-site collection

The project that I'm working on in a downtown urban location has site constraints at the beginning of the project while some demo is occurring. The GC claims that there is not enough room to sort on-site due to space limitations. The only work happening now is footings and foundations. Once steel arrives, demo activities will be complete and more room will be available for on-site source separation for the duration of the project. Has anyone submitted this credit to USGBC/GBCI with a combination of on-site and off-site separation? Of course the CWMP and C&DConstruction and demolition waste documentation will be thorough and consistent for the project. Our aim is to exceed 75% diversion.

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Oct 22 2010 Moderator

Paul, I don't see any obstacle to your earning the credit with the combination of onsite and off-site sorting. You simply have to adequately plan and document.

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Joshua ADY Director Global Tech Safety & Environmental Consultancy
Oct 18 2010
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Wood used for Shuttering process

Do we need to consider the wood that is used for shuttering purpose in the credit calculation?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Oct 22 2010 Moderator

Yes, this material should be included. I can't think of a reason to exclude it—did you have one in mind?

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Shevaun O'Connor Inland Technical Services
Oct 05 2010
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Employees reusing "waste" materials

How about employees reusing waste materials such as wood/carpet/insulation? I know it happens all the time and I think it should be allowable under the Waste Management Plan, but how could a person accurately document this?

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G Matthew Drew Oct 05 2010 Member 337 Thumbs Up

We wanted to allow that very thing with furniture, even though the plan was to donate it to the local Habitat for Humanity ReStore. We loaded up all the furniture into a tractor trailer and ran it over a scale and then brought it back to the project site for employees to select/unload and purchase items with payments made to HFH. We tracked individual purchases for Habitat, but we were able to track the total weight of the donation as part of our waste management. Our local landfill was very willing to volunteer the use of their scale for tracking material weights whenever needed.

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G Matthew Drew
Aug 05 2010
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Furniture

If furniture is inlcuded as part of the project materials, it has to consistently be applied to MR credits 3-7, but could we also inlcude it in MR2?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Aug 05 2010 Moderator

MRc3–7 are purchasing credits, in which furniture would have to be included consistently. MRc2 is a waste management credit, which doesn't relate to purchases in the same way. All waste generated onsite, including furniture-related waste, comes under the MRc2 requirements.

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G Matthew Drew Aug 06 2010 Member 337 Thumbs Up

Thanks very much for clarifying. We will have the shipping materials from the new furniture, but we also have existing furniture that is no longer going to be used, so we want to be sure that we track everything correctly.

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Christopher M Sawyer
Jun 18 2010
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trees/wood as "land-clearing debris"

if trees are downed and mulched or sent to a facility that grinds it for this purpose or sells it for fire-wood, what credit would that fall under? is this just considered "land-clearing debris" and not considered or is it materials reuse?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jun 18 2010 Moderator

Trees cleared from the property would be land-clearing debris, yes, and not eligible for consideration.

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Christopher M Sawyer Jun 18 2010 Member 165 Thumbs Up

In general - is any site material like site rock crushed and used as select fill at the site or for aggreate in concrete or site trees used as mulching for site landcaping or site furnishing accounted for in ANY Materials and Resources credits? I don't find terms like "material" and "site debris" clearly defined in the credit language.

Any help is greatly appreicated.

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Christopher M Sawyer Jun 18 2010 Member 165 Thumbs Up

is crushed rock used as fill a regional material?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jun 20 2010 Moderator

Chris, that's a lot of questions packed into one sentence. The answer to some of these scenarios (but not all) would be "yes," they do count. Check out our guidance on MRc5 and other MR credits about which CSI sections are counted. In particular check the Checklists tab under MRc5.

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