NC v2.2 SSc4.1: Alternative Transportation—Public Transportation Access

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  • Site selection makes all the difference

    Site selection is the key factor in determining how easily a project can qualify for this credit. If your project is located in a densely populated area that is well-served by public transportation, it should be very easy to meet the requirements.

    An all-around good idea

    Facilitating access to public transportation not only brings environmental benefits in the form of reduced greenhouse gas emissions and fewer cars on the road, but it can also reduce commuting costs for building occupants and help attract new hires and retain employees.

    Options for larger projects

    Larger-scale projects may want to consider working with local transit authorities to bring public transportation access near the project site if none already exists. You may not need to ask for...

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Patrice Coffman Sustainability Coordinator UC Davis Student Housing
Aug 04 2011
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Walking Distance vs. Radius

I have seen a number of submittals for this credit showing the project is located within a 1/4 mile radius of at least two bus lines. My understanding is that the project must be within 1/4 mile walking distance.

Have projects successfully earned this credit with the radius approach? Have projects had the credit denied using the radius approach?

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Aug 08 2011 Guest Expert 4544 Thumbs Up

The 2.2 credit language has confused people - whether a .25 mile radius is acceptable or whether it must be documented with a .25 mile walking distance on a map. (The 2009 language is much more clear that it must be shown by walking distance.) The sample area drawing in the 2.2 Reference Guide does show a linear walking distance, and we have seen reviewers of 2.1 and 2.2 projects ask to see the walking distance on the site plan and not just a radius diagram. We've also seen project approved with the .25 mile radius shown, but my guess is these have been accepted when the stops were well with the .25 mile radius.
If you are right on the edge of that .25 mile radius, you may be asked to show the walking distance, so be prepared to also document the frequency of bus service. In a few cases where there were not 2 stops exactly with .25 mile distance, projects have been successful with an alternative compliance path that shows more detail about the level of transit service provided. (See interpretation #704 for one example.) You'd want to show with number of bus lines, number of stops per day, frequency, access to other modes, etc. that you are providing an equivalent or better access to transit than 2 lines within .25 miles with at least 50 rides each per day.

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Lisa Vandevoort
Jul 05 2011
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Public Shuttle

The city where our project is located is not large enough to sustain a bus system. However there is a "call and ride" bus available.
If we were to document that the frequency of operation, past usage (near the project site), capacity of the bus, and average distance people are riding, is equivalent or better than two standard bus, would we be able to work toward an alternative compliance?

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Jul 05 2011 Guest Expert 4544 Thumbs Up

It's possible that might be accepted as an alternative compliance path, but I wouldn't have high expectations for it to pass. You may want to present this as part of an over-all transit management plan that uses several methods to reduce single occupant car use.

First, you'll want to create a baseline of how many employees and visitors would be traveling to and from your project by single occupant vehicles if no transit services existed. You'll need to make reasonable assumptions about the geographic and demographic area your project serves, and the distance and locations people will be traveling from.

Then, describe the transit services you are providing - the call and ride bus would be one, but are there others such as an organized car pooling network, a public car-share program like Zipcar, incentives for shared car use or biking, or a second scheduled shuttle at peak commuting times?

Lastly, you'd want to predict what the percent reduction of single occupant vehicle use will be with the transit management plan. This can be hard to predict, and convince the reviewer that the predictions are credible, so it helps if there is data from any similar programs in other companies or cities that have already demonstrated some measurable reductions of car use.

If you want to get an early review of your proposed plan you could always submit a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide, or you could wait till the Design Phase review to see if technical advice is offered or if it is accepted.
Hope that helps!

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Renaud Gay Shanghai Pacific Energy Center
Jun 07 2011
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Bicycle area for a resort

Hi there.

I am working on a private resort project that is constituted of many small villas located on a big site.

Previous CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide mentioned that for such mixed used project, 5% of bicycle parking should be provided for FTEs and 15% for residents. We already have this for the FTE but wonder about the residents one.

No cars will be allowed on the site; bicycle are allowed to park anywhere and the resort will be private, i.e. controlled. The project team wonders if that won't be enough to meet the requirements, rather than to have special dedicated area in each villa.

In my opinion, only the fact that the dedicated area must be covered makes a non compliance for us. What is your opinion? Many thanks

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Jun 07 2011 Guest Expert 4544 Thumbs Up

We've seen large closets or storage units in apartments used for bike parking instead of racks, so other arrangements are possible than a typical rack. Still, you'll need to show on the drawings a designated covered place where bikes can be stored for residents to use. You'll also want to explain in the narrative that the whole site is secured.

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Daniel Grandy
May 19 2011
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Public Transportation Credit allocation + meeting the intent

1) Would you explain how the 6 available credits are allocated?

2) We have a project with 2 public bus lines/stops within 1/4 mile of the site that connect to a light rail system. The owner also provides a public shuttle service with pick-up/drop-off within 300' of our building that also connects to the light rail system. The buses and shuttle run 12-14 times each, per day, generally from 6:30am to 7:30pm to and from the light rail stations. The light rail system runs +/-60 times per day. Will this fulfill the intent of the public transportation credit?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. May 19 2011 Moderator

Daniel, it sounds like you clearly meet Option 2 for this credit. Do you have any uncertainty about that?

I don't understand your first question.

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects May 19 2011 Guest Expert 4544 Thumbs Up

In case question 1 is asking if earning fewer than 6 is possible, the answer is no, it's all 6 or none.

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Terry Squyres Principal GWWO Inc./Architects
Feb 08 2011
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Alternative Compliance

We are working on a national monument located on a peninsula. Approx. 20% of visitors arrive by water taxi and public transportation, with more arriving via school buses and tour buses. I can’t find a CIRCredit Interpretation Ruling. Used by design team members experiencing difficulties in the application of a LEED prerequisite or credit to a project. Typically, difficulties arise when specific issues are not directly addressed by LEED information/guide that establishes these as alternative compliance options for LEED 2.2. Is there any precedent? Thank you.

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Feb 08 2011 Guest Expert 4544 Thumbs Up

Elizabeth,
True, the CIRs for NCv2.2 SSc4.1 don't address your situation exactly, but it the rulings on 9/25/2008 and 7/13/2009 may help interpret your project.

The 9/25/ 2008 ruling suggests that private tour buses and school buses don't count as public transit, since they are not available to the general public.

The 7/13/2009 ruling suggests that the water taxi may comply if it serves the general public, and other transit lines link to where it launches/ departs for the monument. If you have any other public transit lines that come all the way to the monument without using the water taxi those could count as well. You'll need to show that two different public transit routes can be used to access the monument, such as two bus lines that provide access to the water taxi, or one that serves the launch and another that serves the monument directly.

You'll probably also need to show that the buses or water taxi stop within a 1/4 mile walk of the building entry.

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Terry Squyres Principal, GWWO Inc./Architects Feb 08 2011 Member 242 Thumbs Up

We do have bus linkages on both ends, so your comments will help us to make that case. Thank you, David.

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Keelan Kaiser Architect and Educator Serena Sturm Architects and Judson University
Dec 22 2010
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Alternative compliance option?

I am working with a private school that has 1 bus line within the 1/4 mile radius. The school does not have a bus service, but there is an extensive and organized carpooling system as an alternative to a bus system. Could carpooling/ride sharing be viewed as an alternative compliance path for this credit?

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David Posada Sustainability Manager, GBD Architects Dec 23 2010 Guest Expert 4544 Thumbs Up

I'd estimate you may have difficulty getting the carpools accepted as an alternative compliance path, but if you follow the guidelines for a comprehensive transit management plan as referenced in the checklist above you might succeed. If you go into the review with a few extra buffer points you'll be a lot safer.

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William Bussard
Jul 23 2010
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Private Shuttle Service

Is it possible to attain an exemplary performanceIn LEED, certain credits have established thresholds beyond basic credit achievement. Meeting these thresholds can earn additional points through Innovation in Design (ID) or Innovation in Operations (IO) points. As a general rule of thumb, ID credits for exemplary performance are awarded for doubling the credit requirements and/or achieving the next incremental percentage threshold. However, this rule varies on a case by case basis, so check the credit requirements. point if the owner provides a shuttle service to and from the building? How would I document this?

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Tristan Roberts Editorial Director – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc. Jul 24 2010 Moderator

William this might contribute to an EP point here, but it's a bit more complex than that. The requirements for an EP point under SSc4 are discussed under the Checklists tab above.

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